kirbster123 - has been unresponsive after I sent out my racket

Discussion in 'References' started by at182, May 18, 2009.

  1. at182

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    I haven't ever had a problem dealing with anyone on the TT forums and this is my first time having to do this. :shock:

    But kirbster123 - agreed to a trade with me.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=259105

    for a N61 16x18 - 4 3/8 racket.

    He confirmed the trade on 10th of May. I sent the racket out on the 11th of May with a scanned copy of the receipt sent.

    http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/387530/receipt.pdf

    I followed him up on the 13th of May just confirming he's sent the racket, I waited three days for a reply and again I followed him up on the 16th.

    He was ultra responsive when communicating about what my racket was like - response time was within hours. But ever since my racket was sent I have not had a single reply.

    Now I like to give people the benefit of the doubt maybe he's been away but the fact is he has been active on these forums, in my mind is either I am missing something or something is seriously wrong.... :mad:

    kirbster123
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    and posting on the 17/5 and also 15/5.
     
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  2. at182

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    I know, the problem I have is he hasn't even confirmed whether he has sent the package, even when I have asked him twice just to confirm what is happening.... yet he didn't fail to reply when we were discussing the racket turnaround was almost instant. And the fact remain he has been active on these forums yet failed to respond to email when he agreed to a trade which does nothing for my confidence in him as a reliable buyer/seller on these forums.

    I will wait another week but I am getting worried...:confused:
     
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  3. Bud

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    He should still be answering his email, however.

    I think the OP was right to post his concerns, here.

    Perhaps, if someone sees him actively posting in a forum... they can remind him of this thread ;-)
     
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  4. dr325i

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    Ahm...I don't think the OP was concerned (at this time) about the shipping time....
     
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  5. Fearsome Forehand

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    Doing an international trade with a high school kid with hardly any references (one of which was bad) is an unacceptable level of risk. There's your trouble.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=158775&highlight=kirbster123

    Hopefully, you'll get the racket eventually along with a predictably lame excuse (e.g., my dog was sick, I was on vacation, the address was wrong, emails? / what emails?, unexpected non-specific family emergency, etc.)

    Not responding to someone's emails and not keeping the other party advised of shipping status is just plain ol' bad behavior. The OP has a legitimate gripe.
     
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  6. at182

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    Well looks like this thread had an impact after all. Thanks guys for all your help.

    I also decided to send one more email

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    Hey Kirby,

    Mate you are really starting to give me no confidence in your
    integrity... please get back to me asap otherwise I will take action.

    This is your last chance.
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    This is what I got back not too long after.


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    Hey,

    Sorry for the late reply, I have been incredibly busy. The racquets were shipped a few days ago and should arrive in 1-2weeks.

    Let me know when you get them.

    All the best,

    Kirby
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    So I'll wait and see.

    Should have looked at the feedback from the forums a little more carefully, just a warning for anyone who deals with him in future.
     
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  7. icorp

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    Did he provide a tracking number? Or just another excuse?
     
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  8. at182

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    no tracking number, I'm guessing he's just sent the package via air mail - ems, so I guess I can only hope that he maintains some integrity :rolleyes:

    his excuse was he's been really busy.
     
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  9. icorp

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    You will always get a tracking # when you ship overseas airmail. Don't want to falsely accuse him of not shipping but if he has he should have provided that to give you some assurance and avoid any doubts. He had time to reply and should have provided more information than say it was shipped a few days ago. Sounds very vague if you ask me!
     
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  10. tailofdog

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    Not Always

    I have received many racquets from the states and some dont come with tracking NO#. Most due but taking in the circumstances its not helping to ease your concerns
     
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  11. dr325i

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    Exactly (see my feedback for AWESOME reflexace). There was NO tracking number. It took ~10 days for the rackets to reach Florida from Australia.

    TO the OP, at this time, I would be patient and wait up to two weeks until pointing to the bad reviews...
     
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  12. fluffy Beaver

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    Wow, do some of you not understand the point of this thread? He's not complaining about how long the racquet is going to take to get to him, it's the fact the seller totally blew him off and ignored his emails. Go trade a racquet and have the other person completely ignore you after you ship out your racquet, doesn't feel too good.
     
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  13. FedererForehand

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    Completely agree! OP has ever right to feel slighted in this case...
     
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    While the OP has a legitimate fear, I think that it was a little early for posting this. There is always the chance that the emails were never received, or something happening, and the benefit of doubt is always to be given. As for tracking numbers... I don't always give tracking numbers (I honestly forget... sorry...), but I always follow up. I hope your rackets arrive.
     
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  15. at182

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    meowmix, appreciate your comments. Keep in mind I did try to reach kirbster123 at least three time before positing this and left about 8 days before deciding to post - the fact that he was very responsive when we were communicating the deal and in confirming the deal but drops out of communication straight after I send the racket is what I believe to be bad practice. And what's more the fact the the guy is active and posting on the TT forums tells me he's still online, the least he could have done was send me an email reply telling me he was having trouble sending it?

    It took a post here and a threatening email to command a response with the excuse of 'been busy'.
     
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  16. Azzurri

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    I would not deal with Kirby. I had dealings with him and he is not reliable. He just flat out lies. I left a refrence for him a while back.

    In fact, after I left a refrence, he contacted me about some items I had for sale and I can't remember if I ignored him or told him to shove it. Either way I would never deal with him again.
     
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  17. Bud

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    You can track the package via the Customs form number. Ask him for that number... on the mandatory Customs form he filled out.
     
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  18. dr325i

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    Now, GO back to post #7, read it carefully, THEN reply...
     
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  19. fluffy Beaver

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    ahahaha, you still really don't understand. Post #7 has nothing to do with shipping, it was the OP just looking for a response from Kirby. And it was this thread that got Kirby to respond.........

    Geeze, some people just want the last word yet have nothing to back it up.
     
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  20. dr325i

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    OK, lets do it step by step:
    1) They made a deal, Kirby did not respond. THe OP started the thread.
    2) This thread (up till #7 post) made Kirby respond finally, which the OP shared with us in the post #7.
    Anything before post 7 holds your initial argument.

    3) In post #7, we see that the racket was shipped as Kirby responded
    4) My response - post#12 talks about the shipping, since in #7 appears that Kirby shipped the racket
    5) you, on the other hand, still think that the racket was NOT shipped and that the OP is concerned about the correspondence rather than the tracking number and shipping time.

    Initial point WAS that the seller ignored him, everything after the post #7 is NOT about it any more...shown in OP's post #9

    Next time, let me know, I can draw it for you...
     
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  21. fluffy Beaver

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    False


    No where did I mention shipping, do i needz to draw a's piture 4 u?

    Plz don't make up stuff to help youz argument.
     
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  22. Azzurri

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    dude,
    why are you so thickheaded??? Fluffy was making a point about Kirby NOT making any contact, hence the START of the thread. #7 has nothing to do with Fluffy's post to you. You said to wait two weeks to make a refrence such as this, but you were clearly meaning the SHIPPING TIME since you know from #7 he MAY have shipped. Fluffy's post to YOU was just stating the fact the thread started because of Kirby's ignoring the OP.

    Wow...you are really, really clueless and I am shocked you continue to argue. Why don't you RE-READ this thread and really try hard to understand what is going on. If you have been in aterrible car accident and have little to no comprehension, then fine (please let us know), but there is something wrong with you if you don't get what Fluffy is saying...my god!:shock:
     
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  23. at182

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    guys,

    appreciate all your help and encouragement, my intention for starting this thread was to vent a bit of my frustration and really look for some advice. Sorry if there has been any misunderstanding.

    just to recap, i did finally get a response from kirby after starting this thread and sending a threatening email to him. So on the 20th of May he finally responded infact almost immediately. He said that he has been busy and said that he shipped them a few days before that.

    Now an update. On the 2nd June i get an email from him confirming that he has received my kblade tour and get this he says.... "The post office called me and said they lost the racquet in shipment. I sent my other 3/8 gripsize one out a few days ago, and you should receive it next week"

    do post offices really call to tell you that they lose packages in Canada, cause if it is - that's a great service they're running over there for packages with no tracking number. So fearsome forehand was right in saying expect the lame excuses.

    Well it's now the 17th of June - a long way away from when I shipped my racket on the 10th of May... I guess I really learnt my lesson this time :(
     
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  24. Kot_Bigemot

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    You should be able to complain to police or something like that...That is just sad...This is one of the reasons i do not do international trade/sale. At least within US you have a small chance of getting your money/items back.
    Sorry to hear about that man.
     
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    Pathetic. Just pathetic. I'm truly sorry you had to go through this ordeal, at182.
     
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    That is just low, why are there so many people out there who have no moral/ethical values. I'm actually really ticked off that someone can do that and get away with it. OP, do you have more information on this guy so maybe some of our IT/CS-specialized posters here can track him down?
     
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    I would never actually "physically" get involved in these kinds of disputes nor would I ask/want anyone on my behalf. You never know who you run into. There are sick people out there and can you imagine being blown away at someone's doorstep asking about a tennis racquet?
     
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    Well, there are ways to handle it. If there is a will, there is a way.
     
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  29. Azzurri

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    not all of us were secret agent Russian spies.:wink:
     
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    Sounds like a lie, IMO. How would they know who to call or how to contact the package owner if the package is lost. All that information is on the customs forms which are attached to the package.

    BTW, those customs forms have a bar code and you can track the package by that code.

    IMO, you were lied to and strung along. Your initial feeling was correct and you were correct to post your concerns here.
     
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    TW should ban these shady posters.
     
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    Agreed. I notice he's still active on the boards :mad:
     
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  33. David Fong

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    In Kirby's behalf, I have trade several rackets with him and he has come through each time. The communication isn't always there, but I have always received the racket. (often times shipping has taken awhile) I hope all works out for you.
     
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    Hopefully, you're correct. It's approaching 6 weeks since they finalized their deal.
     
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    That is him, he posted a thread with a recruitment vid.... here's the vid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOyz3Pe1HE
     
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  36. Kot_Bigemot

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    There you go.
    On the university page there is a link to email coach....
    OP can email coach and explain him what is going on, also send him a link to this post.
    I would do just that if i was OP.
    And see what kind of response you get. If coach does not response, i would contact University just to let them know about their student's behavior.
     
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  37. kirbster123

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    I just saw this thread and was very surprised. I did not see this earlier and Andrew if there was a problem, you should have talked to me first. The post office told me that the racquet was lost in shipment. Having said that, I sent another racquet in the same condition. I followed up with you to tell you that you should receive it next week. Yet, you did not send me an email if there was a problem. I still dont know if you have received the racquet. If you havent, I can send back your kblade or paypal you the money, but you should have emailed me first if there was a problem. I don't go through looking at the references very often and luckily I found this one.
     
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  38. Kot_Bigemot

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    Sounds like this issue may get resolved....at last.
    OP, please keep us posted.
    I would like to think that kirbster123 is not a bad person but, just....irresponsible may be....like many kids are. In any case, let's hope for positive outcome.
     
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    The Post office contacted me because I am a small business owner, and save on a plan called Venture One. Anytime I ship something, it is logged on my account. When the product didnt arrive to its destination, they have contact info. If I did not have Venture One, then yes, there would be no one to contact.
     
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    At our first deal, I cut the string into 18ft halves as you said. I also made another mistake on the address, which i misspelled. I do apologize, but it still did arrive and still worked fine in your racquet. Im not saying that this is okay, but I apologized and even offered to pay you for the string. When I asked to trade string again, I offered to send the string first, but you did not reply.
     
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    Thank you David for vouching for me. Before this transaction, I had several good references from other people aside from the problem that happened with Azzuri.
     
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    honestly though kirby, it's now been three weeks since you "resent" your racket and I still haven't seen it, you claim that your racket was lost the first time around, you didn't reply until i sent you a threatening email after we agreed to the trade - even though you were active on these forums during that period.

    and now it's not until people start tarnishing your reputation that you make a show....

    Put yourself in my shoes mate, what do you think, would you feel shafted?
     
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    A Small/minority Group

    I didn't read through all these threads, i don't need to and i don't want to. Few things I can see clearly:
    1. One user id often have arguments with many people, that person is somehow abnormal. Kirbster, you can check and find out who.
    2. A few user id's look very familiar, appear very often in this grey zone, i call them "a small group" or "minority group". Those few people normally protect each other and together aggressively attack another person who is not familiar in the small group. They really want to break down that person who even have a long good history and never had even ONE bad feedback before.
    3. I don't know your true story, whether you are right or wrong. I just want to tell you that BE on your own and DON'T be affected by those people in the small group.
    4. I don't really know who you are, you believe me or not, i don't care, but that is what I clearly see.
    5. The worst thing is they made conclusions while they only based on one-side info. This zone should be for reference ONLY, not for judgement. Otherwise it becomes a court without justice since it is always controlled by "a small group".
     
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    . What at182 said is right? If so, then you should apologize and compensate him and move on. I will deal with you again. If it's not true, then speak up.
    . I am not a member of the small group.
     
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    and to you tennis2001, the facts have been presented as they happened, and people here are just putting forth their opinions based on what they know, I do just want to have this resolved and not go to any extreme measure like speaking to his coach... and this is the forum where kirby has the right to say something if he has been misrepresented in anyway - from my point of view and based on the circumstances he's not been honest and i've lied to..
     
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    Have you read my last response? If you're right, then he should apologize and compensate you. Is this not what you want?
     
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    Here we go again - conspiracy theory. A "small group of people" trying to take over TW.
    LMFAO :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
     
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    There are a group of us who care about transactions here at TT... that they are carried out responsibly and in a timely manner.
     
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  50. Bud

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    I don't believe you.

    So, prove me wrong and post the original tracking number here and the correspondence you received from the PO. If you have some special business plan... you should be able to track the package from origin to delivery.

    Where was the package lost? Where are the insurance forms for your compensation from the Post Office?

    Kirby, why has his replacement racquet taken 3 weeks to arrive... which, BTW, hasn't even happened?

    You should have overnighted him the racquet (with tracking!) for all the trouble he's gone through waiting for you to deliver on your trade.
     
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