Kirilenko cheats against Sharapova

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  1. Seany

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    We hit on the umpires so much, but i think the umpire really deserves a lot of credit in this situation.

    Also nice to see Nadal getting some time violations lately.
     
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  2. adventure

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    Barely audible racket tapping: a foul.

    Screaming at the top of your lungs @ 120 dBA (sound level of a jet taking off) on EVERY racket swing: no problem.

    WTA is a JOKE.
     
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  3. counterpuncher64

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    I opened this thread hoping it would be about Kirilenko cheating on her husband/boyfriend and being back on the market. I'm leaving now disappointed
     
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  4. Limpinhitter

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    Didn't Monica Seles used to tap her racquet on the court when waiting to recieve serve?
     
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  5. scotus

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    I don't remember, but somebody should have set her straight.

    I think she is the main reason we have all these screaming female players today.
     
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  6. jayoub95

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    That was ridiculous man... i thought Kirilenko was better than that. Just goes to show that even pro's will do anything, even cheat to win.
     
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  7. You Can't Be Serious

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    Watched video again. Listen to Sharapova after she hit her return--she screamed much louder than normal. Maybe that got Kirilenko angry. I agree with the umpire, but at least she battled to the end unlike Li who tanked the final game. Tanking is much worse especially when people pay money to watch.

    I never liked Connors antics on the court, and he did some bush league things. But he battled hard and helped make the sport entertaining.
     
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  8. You Can't Be Serious

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    Ana Ivanovic just banged her racket against Sharapova in support of Kirilenko. It's becoming a movement.
     
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  9. Spin Doctor

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    Kudos to the umpire for:

    1. Stopping it right away. She was all over that the second it happened.

    2. The finger wag... followed by another finger wag with her other hand.

    3. "I am not allowing this" in a tone that implied there would be no discussion on the matter. At all.

    Didn't watch the match but judging by the grunting in the 10 seconds of video I saw I'm glad that I didn't.
     
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  10. Stringer_Steve

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    Non-issue. If you are going to allow all the shrill and shrieking of Sharapova and Azarenka, I don't see how this is any more of a hinderance. If anything, it's less. I mean, you have to listen to that noise pollution all match long whereas Kirilenko did this once.
     
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  11. You Can't Be Serious

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    Great point.....
     
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  12. Cup8489

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    Riiight. One of the most popular/well known women's athletes in the world is not likeable.

    Do you really come up with this nonsense all on your own?
     
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  13. RoddickAce

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    Having watched Kirilenko play doubles live, I know she taps the ground to tell her partner that she can't reach the ball. She does this on almost every point.

    This may be a subconscious thing. Still hindrance though.
     
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  14. JohnnyCracker

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    If Ovechkin did this in bed (not with a hockey stick obviously), would he be called for hindrance?
     
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  15. T-ennis 888

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    I don't dispute what you say re: double bagels, but that is not the issue discussed here.

    The higher standards of sportsmanship and dare I say professionalism displayed by greater numbers of players in the men's game compared to the women's game is apparent to all. Note, that I say this as someone who is a great admirer of both Martina's, both Williams sisters, Steffi and Monica and sincerely wish the current batch of women would strive to achieve the consistency, all court play and standard of rivalries seen by champions in previous eras. Finally, consider that four different players won four Grand Slams last year, with there being seven different finalists in total. I wouldn't bet against similar stats again this time around in 2012.
     
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  16. Russeljones

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    Did you get dropped on your head?
     
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  17. tacou

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    Same. The stakes in this match were high for a player of Makiri's status; she was in the midst of a big choke in what might've been her first Master's final.

    I've watched so many of her matches and she's never done anything I'd consider cheating, don't know why she'd do something so blatant at a big tournament against a good friend.

    Basically I'd say yes that's a hindrance but I don't think Makiri had any malicious intent, just was frazzled
     
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  18. sureshs

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    Both of them are very likeable.
     
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  19. Nathaniel_Near

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    Relax folks, ...
    I would suggest that Nadal's recently amplified foot stutter sounds, before he returns first serves especially, is a hindrance!
     
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  20. Bjorn99

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    It is a distraction, YES. But compared to shrieking? Total non issue.
     
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  21. CCNM

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    Uhhh, I thought that when a hockey player tapped his stick on the ice it was some kind of salute.
     
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  22. michael_1265

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    The thing that I loved is that the umpire treated her like an unruly 8-year-old, which is exactly what she deserved. Spoiled little brat. The finger wag was perfect. We need more umpires like her.

    Bringing Sharapova's shrieks into this discussion is pointless. Tennis needs to grab this bull by the horns, but until it does, her behavior is legal.
     
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  23. zapvor

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    wow. that is totally out of line. agree with umpire. she did it right before sharapova went to hit. and i dont even like sharapova
     
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  24. zapvor

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    lol. thats funny but it was still wrong.
     
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  25. wimble10

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    I bet Sharapova loves to have someone else on the tour grunting like her (Azarenka). Azarenka is actually louder.
    Kirilenko's racquet tapping was interesting. I wish she would have only tapped it twice. Then maybe she wouldn't have been called for a penalty.
     
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  26. Pocky

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    Are you saying that just because she's hot?
     
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  27. Magnetite

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    Doesn't look intentional at all. She looked like she was jut getting ready to run the next ball down, after retrieving a hard shot ..

    It shouldn't be allowed, but it doesn't seem like a big deal. I guess more video of Kirilenko is a good thing tho :)
     
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  28. phnx90

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    Nope, why else do you think he's got so many accounts?
     
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  29. lbjames23

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    this is a valid point. marsha s yelling at opponent should be banned
     
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  30. muddlehead

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    not hockey

    as your resident hockey expert, love the tennis russians and their pucking - elena dementieva and her battling husband come to mind - and now mk. as a poster said, the tapping of the stick on the ice is a tribute thing - acknowledgement after play has stopped. a sweet goal, players on the bench bang sticks on the ice or board in front of them. or a center ice ceremony. each team lined along blue line. sticks banged on ice as a tribute. during play, i can't think of ever banging stick on ice or seeing another do it. if you want someone to pass you the puck, you might raise your stick, like a hoopster waiving his hand, to get noticed. (just like hoops, it's pretty bush league. if you're open, you'll get the puck/ball. don't be a ******...) banging stick on the ice during play would, um, telegraph where the puck might be heading...back to mk's racket tapping. wow. that was interesting. if she does it in doubles all the time as a poster said - find that hard to believe. if i'm playing for real live money against her and she thinks she can get away with that s***...but, this a sport where they allow the participants to scream as loud as they desire during play and no one says a word...
     
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  31. sureshs

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    It is not marsha, it is masha, which is like Mary in Russian
     
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  32. lbjames23

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    well, good to know
     
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  33. spiderman123

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    Always thought it was due to MAria SHArapova. Interesting!
     
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  34. sureshs

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    Masha is the colloquial form of Maria.

    But I don't think Sasha is the colloquial form of Saria.

    Believe it or not, I knew a Yuri Sharapov whose tennis playing daughter was Masha!
     
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    And you were whining that what Llodra said was offensive?
     
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