Kirschbaum Pro Line II - The Best Poly?

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  1. BigHitterSE

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    Pro Line II seems to have everything I have been looking for - Comfort, Durability, Tension Maintenance, Mix of Power & Control

    If you have hit with Pro Line II and have found another Poly that is better, please tell me which string you prefer and why.

    I am currently playing Pro Line II 1.25 - I think it's the perfect poly
     
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  2. PKUSA

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    I agree that Pro Line 2 is a great poly. I have the 1.20 and I can't believe how comfortable and durable it is. I can't find anything wrong with it. The price is great too. And yes, it does have solid tension maint.
     
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  3. Fedace

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    i only wish it bites the ball better
     
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    Man PLII has great bite.
     
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  5. JavierLW

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    How long does it last you before it starts to go dead?

    I was thinking of trying it but Im afraid of having to string it every other week like most polys.
     
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  6. chaddles

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    I like PLII quite a bit, and use the 17g a bit. Would not say that it is the best though, quite good bang for your buck. Better poly's that I have been using are Prince EXP 17, M2 Pro, Touch Turbo 17, and SP Hyperion are all better poly's than PLII IMO.
     
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  7. Jonny S&V

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    This really, REALLY hurts me, but I've got to agree with Fedace. I found no spin in PLII, and the power level was too much for me...
     
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  8. BigT

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    For me it played great for 5 hours, and then went completely dead. Almost all the other strings I carry from PolyStar, Topspin, and MSV play equally as good for a longer time, and cost 1/3 less.
     
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  9. Ron Insana

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    I have to chime in on this one. I am about halfway through my poly journey and PLII is by far the best I have found so far. The thing that stands out most about this string is the feel. It is extremely precise, like you can feel each individual string grab the ball. The bite is as good as I have tried from any string. Just look at the board and the reviews here. How many references to “perfect” are there?Although, there is no ‘perfect’ poly, this one has got to be the best 'all-round' poly. There are plenty of niche strings that specialize in spin, control, comfort, or power. But this one does everything very well, especially for bite and feel. It is stiff, but not overly so. It has enough “body” to allow you to feel everything without being at all painful to your arm. Control wise it is only slightly below Pro Hurricane. The sound is raw, not muted like Cyberblue . My only complaint is that it's playable life is only average. I am pretty picky about my strings and I typically can only get 10 hours out of any poly string before having to cut them out. While PLII does not lose much tension, it does turn a stiff dead but still not as dead as other strings from Luxilon and Topspin. I am trying Big Ace in the morning so I will report later on how that compares to PLII.
     
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  10. Jonny S&V

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    Ever try Topspin Cyberflash or Signum Pro Poly Plasma? Two of the the most highly reviewed strings on this board, and I love both of them (but I went for the far cheaper alternative).
     
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  11. dadozen

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    I've tried a number of polys( Big Ace, Big Ace Micro, SPPP, SPPP Pure, MSV focus Hex, and some others ) and none of them compare to PLII, for what I need in a good string.

    Are there cheaper choices? Yes. But PLII 1.15 is just perfect for me. Since I don't play for several hours a week anymore, it breaks before it dies. I just hate having to cut stringjobs.
     
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  12. DrewRafter8

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    Try Genesis Spin X. Make sure it's the red.
     
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  13. Not trying to be rude but if you find "no spin" in PLII, I would say check your strokes.

    PLII can hit massive spin. I mean, I don't use it, but I know it plays fantastic, I used it for awhile.
     
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  14. Jonny S&V

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    Don't you worry, I hit massive spin if I'm on the baseline, but my shots were not jumping as much at they typically do with PL II, so my opponents were getting shots right in their zone.
     
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  15. boomboomserve

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    If you try the Big Ace, may I recommend the 17 gauge in RED, for some reason the RED seems more comfortable than the WHITE, IMO. Though the PLII does seem to slightly trump the BA in comfort, the BA is roughly $5 cheaper :)
     
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  16. PED

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    I've got several sets of pl2 if anyone is looking for a trade or I'll sell some at a decent price. I love the stuff but I need the 16g for my Rad Pro.

    Just email me through my username.
     
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  17. Yeah but there are other people on this board who have claimed to hit "more topspin than anyone on the planet" but you watch their strokes and the balls don't jump off the court whatsoever.

    I'm just saying if you get "no spin" out of PLII there has to be a reason for it, but based on personal experience and loads and loads of feedback, I just can't fathom how it could possibly be the string. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

    I'm not worried at all, I'm just sayin...
     
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  18. T1000

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    This is the worst poly I have ever tried. No feel, it plays dead from the start, just an overall pathetic string. I guess I'm in the minority but I have tried a lot of polys (msv focus hex, pro supex big ace and blue gear, multiple luxilons, tecnifibre pro red code, kirschbaum competition, babolat pro hurricane) and none of the other polys play this bad. All of them had feel from the beginning but I never had it with pro line II. I've tried it in 18g and 17g at different tensions and my experience has always been the same. I have two packs left of the 18g and I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong when i string it, is that possible?
     
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  19. Ron Insana

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    Impressions of Big Ace 17g vs. PLII

    Amazing how well all have different impressions of the same string. Just tried Big Ace for the first time today and for me it does not compare in any way to PLII. From all the hype on the internet, I was expecting it to be a soft, springy and 'user-friendly string but it was just the opposite. If I could use one word to describe it that word would be 'dull'. It is one of the stiffest strings out there, I'm talking ALU-like stiffness. I found no power, no feel and no bite. Spin was good but nothing to write home about. And the worst part of all is that I am starting to feel a twinge in my shoulder. I have never had arm problems with any poly other than ALU Power. I am seriously thinking about cutting these strings out right now but I will give them one more try tomorrow.
     
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  20. Jonny S&V

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    See below quote.

    I'm not the only one. ;-)

    I wish I could get a video of my groundstrokes up but I don't have one... But my serves kick/twist pretty well I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIB-cYkjGQQ
     
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  21. PKUSA

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    You must be doing something wrong. PL2 is a Bad Azz Poly with TONS of feel. Especially the 18g. Are you sure that you have PL2 and not PL1. Your post makes zero sense.
     
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  22. T1000

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    Yes, it is the 18g Pro Line II. I have strung over 100 racquets with different strings/tensions and never has a string play dead from the start except this one. MY customers have never complained about my string jobs playing dead from the start, I have asked a couple just to see if it was me. I guess the string just isn't for me. The only way I can show you guys is if I tape my self stringing and post it here, but I;m sure no one wants to watch me string for 25 mins.
     
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  23. everard104

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    i've been rockin MSV Focus Hex (1.1, 18L) with a Gosen cross for quite some time now after fiddling with different setups. it's one of the softer polys out there. comfy and at 1.1..it really grabs on.
     
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  24. BigHitterSE

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    All good feedback. I do think it's the best poly out there. I also like the fact that it's manufactured in Germany, not Japan like so many others on the market today.
     
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  25. stanfordtennis alum

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    its a good poly, def not the best...
     
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  26. everard104

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    Well it is the best...for me. I'm sure you realize that the 'best' one is the one that works for you and your game. It's relative.
     
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  27. acer4tennis

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    I used to play with PLII. But I prefer Genesis Spin X a lot more. Better tension maintenance, more power and a lot more spin.
     
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  28. BigHitterSE

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    What gauge are you referring to?
     
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  29. clarky

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    I have just had both of my Head Extreme Pro's strung with PL2 at 55lbs, about to hit with these tomorrow, ill post my feedback

    I have tried the following polys so far

    Lux BBO
    Lux Alu Power
    Signum Pro Poly Plasma
    Pro Supex Big Ace

    I will post up my findings on this string tomorrow after my match
     
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  30. clarky

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    Just played my first 3 sets with the Kirschbaum PL2, not as much power as the lux, but alot more comfortable easy on the arm, nice spin, nice control, would be the best all round poly I have hit with so far

    Certainly to me at least felt better than the SPPP nad definitely nicer than the big ace.
     
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  31. sliceboy33

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    Though I haven´t tried many it´s the best poly I´ve used so far.
    I have my Prestige Mids strung with the 18L gauge (1.15) and use them until they pop. They last for two months being played almost everyday (I´m not a big spin hitter, except for the serve).

    Since I´m about to switch to an open-patterned racquet I´m concerned with the 18L durability so I´ve bought the slightly thicker Pro Red Code 18 (1.20) to try out.

    I´m going to string with both and see how they compare.
     
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  32. Ivan Lendl's Backhand

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    I I love ProLine 2 - its such a classic poly that offers such a consistent balance and blend of good characteristics. Control, touch, feel, power, comfort, tension maintenance, longevity and reasonable crispness, bite and spin. It's a poly that you would describe as having an even 'all round' blend of good characteristics to it.

    As for PL2 not offering any bite or spin, I can't agree with that. It doesn't bite or offer as much spin as something like BlackCode, but its lightyears better than something like Lux Adrenaline which really poor at biting into and spinning the ball.

    I do wish that PL2 offered that little bit more spin and bite on the ball that it actually does though. BlackCode or Hex are both better in that regard, but are arguably more inconsistent or weaker in other areas particularly in terms of performance drop off.

    I've tried alot of polys recently but I keep on going back to Pro Line 2. I just wish it came in colours other than red!
     
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  33. bad_call

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    going to have to give this one a try.
     
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  34. PED

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    I've got a few sets of the pl2 in 1.25mm(17g size). It's a great fit in your stick.

    shoot me a line.
     
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  35. bad_call

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    got some 1.20 on a string trade. will try on next string job. if good will let u know. :)
     
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  36. PED

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    Sounds good. I think you'll really like it. Great all around string. I was going to try and use the 1.30mm size for the Radical but the Genesis price couldn't be beat ;)
     
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  37. Fedace

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    Yes possibly but i am hoping RPM blast is even better
     
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  38. jazzyfunkybluesy

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    Its too expensive and the red color looks terrible. It plays awesome for a couple of hours and then loses tension and is useless.
     
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  39. Lawnmower

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    I just switched from a Natural Gut/Poly hybrid to a full bed of Proline II 1.20 in my Youtek Prestige Pro's and have never been happier. Proline is EXTREMELY soft, it's the softest poly i've tried. It feel like a poly infused with a multi. LOVE IT!
     
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  40. robJAR

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    How would these strings compare to cyberflash (1.30)? I use a hybrid of cf16 and sheep16 and became curious of these.. I like cf but it feels kinda stiff for me. No arm problems, but it's just that i think i would prefer a little softer string.

    Also i have a set and a half of pacific classic in 16ga., and was wondering how this would perform if put in a hybrid with PLII in the crosses.

    I should really move up to 17ga.. I've only broken a string once :\

    -robJAR
     
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  41. Peter Szucs

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    I am one of those who say the Pro Line II is one of the best if not the best poly out there. Those who use the 17L (1.20) version and wanna try something just as good give the Head Ultra Tour 1.20 a try.
     
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  42. JackB1

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    Hey PED, I would like to buy those strings from you. Drop me a line at: jackbandel at gmail.com
     
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  43. JackB1

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    anyone compare PL2 with Genesis Spin X for softness?
     
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  44. kater21

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    Could anyone compare PL2 1.15 with Big Hitter Blue 1.20 please?
     
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  45. Preston

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    So personally I didn't like Pro Line2 at all. It is soft, but that is it's only good quality IMO. It has too much power, crazy power and it's inconsistent. I didn't find good spin or ball bite in comparison to the other poly's I hit with.

    Spin X does feel stiffer than Pro Line2, but not by a lot. I have found better control and spin from Spin X and more $$ in my wallet.
     
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  46. aangstman01

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    has anyone toyed around with PL2 in a hybrid using a MG Prestige MP?...
     
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  47. PED

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    ^^^I did that setup last year and it's very very nice-good comfort but the poly really helps out on the spin.
     
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  48. aangstman01

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    awesome, spin is what i'm looking for thanks PED
     
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  49. PED

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    I will also add that full pl2 in the 17g is nice in there as well. I thought the tight pattern would not be comfortable with full poly in it but really nice.

    The mg mid was too tight for me and full pl2 :( A hybrid worked better for me in that one.
     
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  50. Fedace

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    Your Prayers have been answered. they came out with Helix which is improved version of Proline 2 with even better bite with twisted edges to bite the ball.:)
     
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