Kirschbaum Proline II

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  1. murrmanfan13

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    lately i have been hearing alot about the magic this string works. before i get myself a reel for experimenting, i was just wondering how it plays. does it have power, control feel? hows the durability? thanks alot.
     
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  2. canadave

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    durability is fantastic...the strings will just die before they break. I've played about a full season on one set, medium tension.

    If you string it and don't feel there's enough power, string at lower tension. Near the end of one of my seasons with it, the racquet was practically a rocket launcher...at low tension it was just firing the ball long (too long).

    Control is fantastic, and the feel is cushiony soft. If you string too high a tension, it might feel a bit boardy until it loosens up.
     
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  3. murrmanfan13

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    thanks a ton! ive been string my polys at 58 and my crosses at 60. should i try any lower with kirsch? what do you hybrid it with if anything?
     
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  4. murrmanfan13

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    anyone got ideas? or is this thread dead?
     
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  5. himynameisNIKE

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    i use full pl2 at 58 it is amazing wont be disappointed
     
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  6. DownTheLine

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    How different is PL1 and PL2?
    I meant to order PL2, but clicked the wrong one.
     
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  7. murrmanfan13

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    sounds promising, its not to stiff so it shouldnt be too bad on my arm right? if i were to hybrid it, do you have any favorite hybrids with it, or hybrids you think will work with it?
     
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  8. murrmanfan13

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    i have no clue, but i would think pl2 is better lol
     
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  9. canadave

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    Patience, patience...let the threads live a little while before jumping to the conclusion that they're dead :) Sometimes threads here languish for weeks or months or even years, and then someone'll resurrect it.

    Your question about the tensions is dependent on what racquet you're stringing. I had my PSC 6.1's (55-65lb tension range) strung with the PLII at 61lbs. At that tension, the racquet felt slightly boardy at first, then settled down nicely into the optimum tension range as time went by. I like to string above "ideal" tension to start with, and let natural tension loss bring the string into the "ideal" zone over time.
     
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  10. canadave

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    I am 37 years old, had the PLII in one of the stiffest recent racquets (72 RDC), and it was a comfortable hit for me...no arm problems whatsoever.
     
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  11. murrmanfan13

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    heh i am new to forums so im still getting the hang of all this.

    your tension idea is very good, something i should probably try more often. if the string is as soft as you say, does that make it mushy, or is it crisp.
     
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    I've used Pro Line 2 in hybrids before and liked it quite a bit. I did a full set of 16g for the first time at 57 lbs on an APDC about a month ago and loved it. soft, controllable, with enough power. But after three weeks of solid play the strings just felt dead to me: no feedback, no power, control. I restrung another (identical) APDC with SPPP 16g at 55# and went out to compare. The Kirsch felt even deader when compared with the fresh SPPP. All of the sudden I had depth control back and could hit the angles I wanted with confidence. So I went home and cut the Kirsch out. 3 weeks life isn't long enough for a $12 pack of string for me. I just finished off a reel of Pro Supex Big Ace, and though I didn't like the string as much, it tended to break at about 3 weeks (before losing its life), and cost me something like $4.50 a racquet. I really liked the Pro Line too though (including the color) and if I had expendable cash I'd probably pick up a reel. Instead I think my next reel will be SPPP. I really like PHT 16 and think it holds its playing characteristics longer than any other poly I've tried, and takes me a month or so to break, but I can't stomach 14 bucks a pack.
     
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  13. canadave

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    No worries, we all were new once. Just be nice, try to contribute as well as ask for info, share your knowledge and try to help folks out, and that's the name of the game :)

    Yeah, I never saw the sense of stringing a racquet at ideal tension, then letting it depreciate right from the beginning out of the ideal tension range. I'd rather string it slightly high, let it break in a bit, and by then have it right in the ideal range for playing with for a while.

    As for the string, it does not feel mushy, nor particularly crisp. Just a nice soft hit. I play with a dampener, too, so that might make a difference.
     
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  14. murrmanfan13

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    i just tried sppp with x-1 and did not like it very much. it might be because the sppp is yet to break in, and maybe it will be better then. i am lately thinking about switching from sppp to pl2, would you think that would be better? im okay spending the money if its worth it. thanks
     
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    thanks for the nice words candave :D

    sounds like the crispness will be perfect for me.

    thanks for all the help!
     
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    You're quite welcome :) Good luck, and come back and post here letting us know how it went :)
     
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  17. murrmanfan13

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    i sure will :D
     
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  18. murrmanfan13

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    so ill be getting this in on friday and im very excited.
    in the meantime does anyone have any hybrid ideas? i have no clue what i am gonna put it with.
     
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    I hit last night with my Gamma Pro/ Kirsh PLII, and its my least favorite hybrid! In fact I'm probably going to trade away the half set I have left. I just seem to get better ball bite with TF Black Code and MSV Hex!
     
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    I string for two guys who use this (full string job). Although it is very harsh when stringing, and a pain, it plays relatively soft. Has good spin potential, power, and relatively good feel at contact.
     
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  21. murrmanfan13

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    sounds like a nice string. is it textured at all?
     
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  22. Supracool94

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    PL II is smooth with no texture
     
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  23. murrmanfan13

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    oh ok
    10 char
     
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    I'm currently using PLII in one of my racquets and I'm getting to a conclusion that I much prefer it over Pro Supex BAM. It's a little crisper, gave me more control and moves a lot less.

    But i'm very interested in trying one MSV Hex stringjob. Glad I have one at home.
     
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  25. murrmanfan13

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    im interested in trying MSV to, i mean it must be great if it won string of the year. tell me how it goes im interested to know
     
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    No problems, I'll do that:)
     
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    If my memory is correct, I believe that Spiky Shark is the same string as PL2 only textured...
     
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  28. murrmanfan13

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    i think someone mentioned that, but he also said that someone else told him it was completely different.
     
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    One of my very favorite hybrids was Kirsch Pro Line I and Volkl Power Fibre: crisp yet softer, with lots of control, and great feel. I had 18g for both and the spin was quite good.

    Kirschbaum Pro Line No.1 1.15 Polyester 1.16 234
    Volkl Power Fiber 18 Nylon 1.19 195

    (PL I is a little bit cheaper and a little more crisp than PL II.)
     
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  30. murrmanfan13

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    well thats an interesting hybrid, i have never heard of Volkl Power Fiber...
     
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  31. murrmanfan13

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    are there any other things you have tried and liked with it?
     
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  32. PED

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    Spikey may be the same construction but I found that it does not play at all like pl2. Much much stiffer and the power level is quite a bit lower. I tried it twice and didn't get on with it but many on here love it.
     
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  33. murrmanfan13

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    that makes sense. are you a fan of PL2?
     
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  34. PED

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    ^^Yes, I do love it. It took me 3 years to reach that point after trying every other string under the sun. I like pl1 as well but it's a bit thinner than the pl2 in the 17g. Pl1 also started moving around much quicker on me than pl2 for some reason. I think pl1 is around 1.23 and I could tell the difference. (I know, call me crazy)
     
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  35. murrmanfan13

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    who said being crazy was bad?

    anyway, in your opinion do you like it more than lets say luxilon?
     
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  36. PED

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    No, I don't like it more than luxilon but the lux goes dead on me in 4 or 5 hours and as much as I love it, I can't justify that.

    I can also string the pl2 higher and get great control; the only thing lacking is that "drop out of the sky" spin that lux gives you.

    However, my comments apply only to lux ALU. I do think pl2 is better than BBO or m2... IMO
     
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  37. murrmanfan13

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    ok, ill definitely try it. the thing with alu rough is that it rips through my x-1. that why i am looking for something that wont rip it
     
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