Kuerten with yt Radical MP

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  1. dgoran

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    As the title sais Kuerten is using youtek radical MP these days just like Goran Ivanisevic :)

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    Some more photos...
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    what is the racquet in agassi's hands ??
     
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    what if it's still the pT630 with just a rad Pj?
     
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  6. eman resu

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    no head logo, though
     
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    true but that doesn't mean he couldnt acquire them himself, if he wanted them. I'm sure head is reasonable about it if he pays them, and they could have given him a yt paintjob set, of the hairpins of the PT630.

    Idk, just a theory.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZwUyqFxq4&feature=related

    In this video at 1:15 it is clear that Agassi's rackets doesn't have the white Youtek teflon grommets. Guga's on the other hand does have it (1:08 ). I would think that since Agassi is still doing commercials for Head he's required to use the newest pj (weird that he's missing the logo, though), while Guga is probably just playing with what he wants and thus his Youtek could be the real deal. Of course this is 100 procent guessing.

    This is also a valid theory, but at least Guga's grommets appears to be real youtek...unless they started to do grommet pj's as well, hehe.
     
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  9. cnr1guy

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    I think Agassi is using a PJ of his old Radical 260 (hence the black gommets) where as Guga appears to be using a real Youtek. I bet he's got a ton of lead on it though.
     
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  10. vsbabolat

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    It's not a Pro Tour 630 with a radical paint job. Guga is really using the YT Radical MP. Before that he was really using the MicroGel Radical MP.
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    i presume he personally purchases racquets now in stock form

    btw thats some dope ink on this right hand
     
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    vsbabolat- do you know what he's stringing his sticks with?
     
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    Well, there you have it. If VS calls it, it's valid. Thanks for the info. :)
     
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    I wish I could play on just leather, that is def not a PT630 mold, and where do you get those shoes?
     
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    I second the wish to get these shoes, although I am not a clay player I would like to have them for sentimental reasons ;)

    Also lefty I thought it was interesting that he uses only leather in practice and his standard turna over bare handle in the actual game play.

    For the gentleman who doubted if it was pt630 mold all you have to do is look at a throat and you can clearly see its not a pt
     
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    Black butt cap though? Whats the string pattern? Its not a tgk260.2 because of the white grommets though.
     
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    That butt-cap must be from the pro-room (no serial number). Also, the grip shape is certainly custom made for Guga. It is more wilson-ish rather than rectangular...
     
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    So Guga went with the leather grip instead of his 3 overgrips only.
     
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    Completing the point with a shoulder-high punch in
    In the first picture on the original post, he was still using Tournagrip(s)--not sure how many--on top of the bare pallet. Quite a departure from bare leather.
     
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  20. vsbabolat

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    I dont think so.......................
     
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  21. vsbabolat

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    Luxilon ALU Power 1.25 according to the USRSA logs from the 2010 Sony Ericsson.
     
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    Seconded. That's a Head-shaped grip for sure (and I'm just looking at it).
     
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    I don't agree. It looks pretty darn Head-like to me.
     
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    If its the stock radical why does it have a different buttcap? strange I would say..
     
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    I was waiting for someone to bring this up :) Good job bb! :)
     
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    Just curious, what's his grip size? Wasn't it like a 4 1/2 with just two over grips before? It looks like a 4 3/8 or so from those pics...
     
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    That's because that is the butt-cap the pro's get from HEAD's pro room. It is the same as the YouTek butt-cap except the Pro's don't have the hologram over the trap door. The Pro's get a black sticker over the trap door.
     
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    No serial number. Why?
     
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  29. vsbabolat

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    When you buy just a YT butt-caps there is no serial number either.
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    It is the same. Only difference is that the Pro's gett a black sticker with a silver ski tip logo that covers the trap door.
     
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    OK, I will try to formulate my question differently: Why does it have AFTERMARKET butt-cap if it is actually a retail frame? Why would they bother to replace them if they only want to inject silicone?

    You know very well that the black label is there just because it is more convenient for customizers to do their job (inject silicone through little hole and put that black label over it).
     
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  31. vsbabolat

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    I will state it again: Guga's racquet came from the Pro Room. That is how it comes from the pro room. TGK260.1 if that makes you feel better. I know the codes are very important to people around here. I just can't simply call it a YT Radical MP.:-?
     
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  32. dr325i

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    That is because it is assumed to be in the Retail form then, which is not.
    The TGK260.1 (Pro Stock) and the YT Rad MP Retail are not identical frames, in fact, very different.
     
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  33. vsbabolat

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    You forgot to add that the code to the retail frame is TGK260.1. Not as different as you think. After all you have trouble feeling the difference bewteen TGK238.1 and TGK238.4.
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=5020042#post5020042
    Don't take this the wrong way but anything you have to say about how a racquet plays. I take with a grain of salt and rely on my own personal experiences with the racquets.
     
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    This thread is starting to take a different turn than what I had imagined.

    Lets put to rest this tgk vs retail.
    Its like conspiracy theory stuff I am sure that even if you remove a handle of a retail YT Radical and compare it to Guga's people would still not believe in fact I am not sure what would take one to believe.

    Probably the only way to really know the difference is to compare angle of pre baked layers of sheets of raw graphite which is impossible for us to do here on TT thus this will never be resolved and I am sure even if Austrian factory worker provides us with step by step pictorial of the above process I am willing to bet a dollar that folks would still claim conspiracy.

    In fact I was hoping for some more of the HI rez photo goodness that vs always magically pulls out of his hat. Anyone else has any large photos of this event or Goran Ivanisevic with YT radical MP.
     
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    You finally managed to answer implicitly so the answer is: NO. Guga is not using a retail frame. Is not about what makes me feel batter it is about being accurate. Many people read this and I don't want them to think that they can buy Guga's racquet online because they cannot.
     
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  36. vsbabolat

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    Just so you know all of the Frames have a TGK number that includes retail and it is no coincidence that some of the codes match the retail.
     
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  37. vsbabolat

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    Sure they can. They can go out and buy a YT Radical MP and if they know Guga's spec customize it to match his frame.
     
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    Textbook example of a fallacy. I am not sure you are aware of your words and their meaning...
     
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    TGK260.1 is the code for the YT Radical MP racquet, it doesn't matter where you buy it or get it if you ask for for a YT Radical MP racquet you will get a racquet with a TGK260.1 code written some where and it always will have the same specifications unless you ask for customization. That is the whole point of the code, a code doesnt mean it comes from the pro room is just like a part number.

    More simply put, if you buy a racquet from "The Pro Room" with the code TGK260.1 you will get a racquet with the same specifications of a retail YT Radical MP, because the TGK260.1 code is for the YT Radical MP regardless where you buy it.
     
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    Oh I know I was posting with some irony since we have all seen this thread:
    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=315501&highlight=Prestige+TGK+code

    I definitely believe that in most cases (Custom one-off stick for certain pros do not apply) you can buy retail equivalent and modify it (if you know pro's exact specs) and you are good to go.

    Performance on court with that stick MIGHT not translate to result but t least you can pretend hahaha ;)

    Also hope this closes but cap discussion:http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3167195&postcount=49
     
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  41. vsbabolat

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    Well I guess I don't really use the Prestige Classic then because I have mine customized to my presonal prefernces. Please tell me what am I playing with?
     
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  42. dgoran

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    Now lets see some more hi rez photos :)
     
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  43. vsbabolat

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    Here is the last good one I can find.
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    WOW you continue to amaze :) you can see lux alu on that one too (deducting from his history alu usage) I am sure he is not using typhoon lol
     
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    Wonder if his new stick is still nearly even balanced like he used to use
     
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    and I believe the stock Youtek Rad MP is only 2 pts headlight to begin with.
     
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  47. dgoran

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    Oh yes for sure but i am sure he is not using it w/o lead and silicone.

    Head Pro Tour 630 348gr 33cm sw:349 4-3/8", two Tournagrips was his atp touring pro days specs.
    I was wondering if this has changed now that he aged lol
     
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    Just for ***** and giggles:
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    are those shoes considered "stock" if he replaces the insole?
     
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  50. dgoran

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    Lol no than that's @sick 696.9
     
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