kyrgios being dumb again lol
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shes just saying just becuz ATP players are for it doesn't mean WTA players are
ghostofMecir
Legend
Having been to Saudi, it’s probably one of the safest places in the world for both men and women. Same with Qatar, same with Dubai.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Providing you dress correctly and don't mingle!!
ghostofMecir
Legend
It’s not that difficult – just follow the cultural norms. You’re not going to get mugged, you’re not going to get your car broken into,, nobody is getting *****, etc.
Sure, if you're straight.
bitcoinoperated
Professional
He just wants a big payday from being a clown without actually wining anything.
I wonder if his gf dressed like a slapper over there too.
I wonder if his gf dressed like a slapper over there too.
i don't know what slapper means but i bet she did
Baseline_Bungle
Hall of Fame
N-a-z-! Germany was also extremely safe.
soft_manatee
Rookie
or not a journalist
ghostofMecir
Legend
Come on, now—lol
you come on now dawg, you can’t legally be gay in saudi arabia.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Or Jewish
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Its true though, streets of UAE, Qatar & KSA are far safer than those of NYC, London or Paris
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Safer for who lol??
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Everyone. Robberies, snatchings, shootings, violent protests, killings, rapes etc are plain non existent there.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm sure if I was walking around in my yarmulke or holding hands with my boyfriend I would be very safe
TheNachoMan
Legend
It’s safe in a very oppressive way. If you know what I mean.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
I was walking on streets hand in hand wirh my girlfriend, and felt completely safe.I'm sure if I was walking around in my yarmulke or holding hands with my boyfriend I would be very safe
If you're talking about LGBT acceptance, its not going to happen as long as Islam as a religion doesn't go under reforms like Christianity did.
ghostofMecir
Legend
Nobody gets mugged—there are no car break-ins, there are no rapes, there are no assaults. You can go out at two in the morning or three in the morning or one in the morning and it does not matter at all.
As for the issue with LGBT, yes, there’s the policies, which speaks to the overall regime, and its overall human rights record concerning political dissidents, foreign workers (unless you’re white), and other issues.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of LGBT living in Saudi, and nothing happens. Most of the people who’ve been punished for LGBT acts were really punished for something else that the government drummed up, and not for “homosexual acts.” It wasn’t a big thing in Qatar either. During my time in Saudi, I’m sure I saw hundreds of gay men out and about. Men are with men outside, anyway, so nobody really knows anything.
Eh, didn’t feel oppressed, but I suppose others would have a different definition. It’s a much different story walking around in downtown Los Angeles or Chicago or Atlanta or London or Paris or New York, where I have been mugged as well as had my car broken into. They really are no assaults in the big cities.
Nobody is “legally gay” anywhere
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm talking about acceptance of *all* kinds of people lol. You know, there's very little violent crime in North Korea, too
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Dude, you can't be gay, Jewish or plenty of other things. It's an awful, awful place. There's no violent crime in North Korea either, go vacation there lol
Imagine defending societies that don't practice freedom of religion and choice of partner. Yikes
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Not gonna happen as long as they remain islamic kingdoms and islam itself doesn't evolve from the desert cult mentality of 7th century.I'm talking about acceptance of *all* kinds of people lol. You know, there's very little violent crime in North Korea, too
But come on, NK is anything but crime free, those rascals stole away my brand mew Nike trainers at customs
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
In UAE atleast, Jews are allowed now as they've officially recognised Israel's existence. So you may say there's some progress.
But forget about LGB rights there, man. Not gonna happen until what I said earlier happens.
ghostofMecir
Legend
You are talking about policy things and yes, they are discriminatory, but my comments were about safety out on the streets. The original discussion in the original post was about Kyrgios‘s girlfriend “feeling safe.” Nobody knows if you’re Jewish or gay when walking around outside — this is what I was discussing.
There are many many people and foreign nationals who are gay or Jewish, who have lived in Saudi, travelEd to Saudi, or places, like Qatar and UAE without any problems.
The policies may not be to your liking, but if you visited there, you would understand what I’m talking about the safety of the streets
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Agreed
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
ghostofMecir
Legend
So no argument, have never been there, and this is all you have?
Chop chop at the embassy.
Try practicing your religion there. You'll be bundled up.
Sure you'll be safe from Joe public as the threat of public stoning, arm chopping and neck chopping is there. Say a word against the establishment and you're toast.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
My arguments have already been stated. Safety on the streets is only assured to people who look and behave a certain way. You're welcome to continue being obtuse.
He assaulted his girlfriend. No wonder she felt fine in Saudi Arabia with no one to assault her.
ghostofMecir
Legend
Again, my post was in reaction to what Nick Kyrgios said about what his girlfriend felt, and what my own experiences were in Saudi Traveling around in the streets in the cities. You and others are making comments about policies about certain things, policies that aren’t really relevant to anyone traveling out and about in the streets. I went on business travel there with people who consider themselves, Christian, and I myself am a born Catholic. Nobody is practicing their religion out in the middle of the street And nobody felt any danger about anything as far as I’m aware.
Which was as far as I could tell 99.9% of everybody.
Martin J
Hall of Fame
That's the case with literally any oppressive regime, since the police has a ridiculously high level of authority and power in order to secure the reign of a ruling party or regime. I have never been in Saudi Arabia, but was born in the Communist Yugoslavia and it was a similar situation, the policeman on the street was like a God, could literally do anything if he wanted to, and try to "insult" the party or perform any activities that are considered to be subversive and good luck to you.
Some people here are still being sentimental about the past time and often remember how they could sleep on the street or in the park because it was "safe", but completely ignore the fact that the safety was simply an accident. You aren't really that safe if you could lose your head just because you didn't follow the rules strictly.
NonP
Legend
I figured this has something to do with women and man, it's somehow even worse. Nick really needs to surround himself with better people who can educate him on how sexism/prejudice/discrimination really works IRL.
A couple more things:
A couple more things:
Is she the same GF or a new one? If the former that explains at least in part why he felt her feeling safe was enough.
Exactly. I mean even I as a prepubescent kid felt the same thing when I first visited Singapore, and SA's authoritarianism is at least several degrees worse. Not the kind of "rule of law" you wanna be touting as a shining model.
Different GF but Nick was there.
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