Last slam final where both players had championship points?

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  1. Homeboy Hotel

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    Has it ever happened? I'm sure it has - any idea what, when, where, who?
     
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  2. Mainad

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    I believe that Guillermo Coria held 2 championship points in the 5th set of his final against Gaston Gaudio at the 2004 FO but still went on to lose.
     
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    Indeed. I was about to say Safin - Federer, but that was the SF :p
     
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  4. Hood_Man

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    Isn't this the only time it happened in the Open Era?

    Hang on a sec... *turns on the MustardSignal*

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    Nice work Mr Welshguy. Lived in Cardiff several years back, missed the place/people but not the weather.
     
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    Roddick (W09), Federer (W08, USO09) came within two points of victory, but Coria was defenitely the last one to waste championship points.
     
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  7. RCizzle65

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    I don't think Roddick was ever two points away, remember he was serving second in the last set, and Federer won it right away after he broke Roddick without having to serve it out. Roddick did have a couple break points in the last set I believe.
     
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    As far as I remember, Coria-Gaudio is the only one Grand Slam Final where the loser had one or more match-points (In the Open Era).
     
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    Roddick had at least one "virtual" match point (which I personally think is nonsense), in that he had break points against Federer.
     
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    It's insane that this hasn't happened more often o_O
     
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    Yeah, I remember, long back in 2011, Roger had virtual matchpoints in the first set against Nadal at RG, but yeah, i think VMP's are nonsense, too. ;)
     
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    Also amazing is there hasn't been a decisive TB in a championship match @ the USO.
     
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    It is ridiculous; incomprehensible! The odds are so good for this to happen that I'm surprised it hasn't occurred at least once every other year, to be Benjamin Franklin.
     
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    seems you're right !

    it also happened several times in the pre-open era:

    AO 1927: Gerald Patterson, 5 against John Hawkes
    AO 1947: Dinny Pails, 1 against John Bromwich
    AO 1960: Rod Laver, 1 against Neale Fraser

    RG 1927: Rene Lacoste, 2 against Bill Tilden
    RG 1934: Gottfried von Cramm, 1 against Jack Crawford

    W 1927: Henri Cochet, 6 against Jean Borotra
    W 1948: Bob Falkenburg, 3 against John Bromwich

    USO 1936: Fred Perry, 2 against Don Budge

    (poor Bromwich !)
     
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    Murray holds 6 matchpoints in a fourth set tiebreak leading 6-0 to Verdasco, yet ends up losing.
     
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  16. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Yeah but did the loser of the match ever have match point subsequent to the opponent?
     
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    It's the only time in the open era that a player in the men's singles has had CPs and lost, yes. Coria twice served for the 2004 French Open title at 5-4 and 6-5 in the fifth set, being broken to love in the former and had 2 CPs in the latter where he was narrowly wide of the line with two attempted winners. Coria did everything in that match but actually win it.

    It was at 8-8 in the fifth set of that 2009 Wimbledon final, if I remember rightly, when Federer was serving and was down 15-40. Had Roddick broken there, he'd have served for the title, having not been broken in the entire match at that stage.
     
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    Think you may have got these two mixed up. Losing from winning positions is more Verdasco's speciality, not Murray's.
     
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    Lindsay had Championship point against Venus in the second set of the 2005 Wimbledon final and ended up losing the match in 3 sets.
     
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  20. single_handed_champion

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    No, she had CP at 5-4 in the 3rd set. Did serve for the match at 6-5 in the second but was broken to love, I think.
     
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    That's absurd. Verdasco cannot be out-choked.
     
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    Verdasco's match with Tipsarevic at the 2011 Australian Open says otherwise.
     
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    Eh close enough (it's been a couple years), the point still stands that she had a championship point and eventually lost the match.
     
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    I don't think it was two passing shots, I remember him trying a DTL winner on at least one occasion, if not both match points.
     
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    Sorry, my mistake. The first CP saw Coria try a backhand winner down the left sideline and narrowly miss it wide, and the second CP saw Coria try a forehand winner down the right sideline and narrowly miss it wide. I thought Gaudio was closer into the court, but having just rewatched those Coria CPs, Gaudio was behind the baseline both times.
     
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  26. halalula1234

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    2005 wimbledon.. venus and lindsay
     
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    Well, the 2001 Wimbledon Final with Rafter/Goran, Rafter was serving ahead and Goran was in Roddick's position of 09.

    At 6-7, Ivanisevic was down 15-30 and on his 2nd serve. Rafter had full sight on it and hit wide. Then Goran got an ace to go up 40-30 and after returning a conservative serve from Goran, Rafter failed with a terrible lob. Ivanisevic would break the following game and win it 9-7.
     
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