Lazy/Flat-footed tennis (video)

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  1. SOSINOSIS

    SOSINOSIS New User

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    Hey guys,

    Here's an older video of me hitting. I'm a rec player that recently started playing some local tournaments. I've been criticized on numerous accounts by some of my colleagues for playing "lazy" tennis. Or simply creating the illusion of "not trying as hard". I play about 3-4 times a week and for at least 3 hours each time. The way I see it, I'm just conserving my energy for a typical 4-5 set outing.

    I feel that tennis can be very therapeutic. It's a great day to just wind down after a long day's work. Maybe my colleagues take it to seriously? I don't know, but please chime in. Thank you!
     
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  2. SOSINOSIS

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  3. sureshs

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    Hey I play almost exactly like you, except for a few differences:

    - I would be moonballing a backhand top spin on some of the balls which you are slicing
    - I would be looping more in general
    - I do not conserve my energy for anything - I am just lazy
     
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  4. LeeD

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    NICE!
    Why waste more energy as your're just hitting?
    Looking good, nice 4.0 level hitter, poise, composure. Keep playing, you'll get better.
     
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  5. OHBH

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    I like your style, it definitely will help to keep you injury free and playing for a long time. You look to hit the ball quite well, but the video is from a very relaxed down the middle hitting session. I think we would need to see some match play footage to assess whether your so called "lazy tennis" is negatively effecting your game.
     
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  6. cluckcluck

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    Is that in Rancho Cucamonga?
     
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  7. dominikk1985

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    I like it. You hit the ball just with the arm but you make nice contact with the ball. that is definitely a good foundation.

    if you want to move up the ladder you have to use more explosive footwork and your legs and body on the shots more though.

    but for a 4.0 player those are nice strokes. also good net clearance and spin.
     
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  8. sunof tennis

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    I agree. From what I can see you have very nice strokes. Shouldn't have trouble getting to 4.5 (assuming you can serve and construct points) with more fitness and footwork/split step, etc. You have talent-why be lazy?
     
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  9. LeeD

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    The only person who said this was "lazy" was the OP, who was just probably kidding.
    A good player hitting up the middle doesn't need any more effort.
    When he posts match play, THEN he should widen his stance, move and prep, turn and hustle.
     
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  10. rufus_smith

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    The OP still has ways to go to True Lazy Tennis (TLT, trademark applied). He will never make to the 4.5 TLT level at this rate His mistakes are that he does actually move his feet and even worse tires out his arm by swinging at the ball. Worst of all he even went after a ball hit 4 feet to his left! Please keep your feet in the same spot and the hold your racquet still and just block it back over net. Don't chase balls not hit right at you. Its the other player's responsibility. When you run out of balls to hit and your partner won't retrieve them, it's time to quit. You don't want to break a sweat do you?
     
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  11. willroc7

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    Your footwork isn't lazy your shots are. You actually split step most of the time and make good amounts of adjustment steps to each ball. Each ball is coming right back to you down the middle, however, so it's tough to judge your movement.

    Back to your shots though, you put no legs into any of your shots. There is so much power to be had in the lower body you are really robbing yourself by just arming the ball. Not only that, you are preventing your full kinetic chain from activating, taking away racket head speed. It will not tire you out faster in long matches. You will be saving your shoulder, elbow, and possibly, wrist. Just add knee bend and push up with your legs to your current strokes and see what happens.
     
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  12. t135

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    Interesting. Did you make any mistakes there? As a former NTRP verifier ETC, I'd say I just saw a 4.5 or better player sandbagging it. You'd have to show me something that convinces me you are really a 4.0 from that point forward. 25 minutes later I'd have the final answer.

    But that was only the ground stroke warm up, I know. ;-)
     
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  13. treblings

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    looks like very smooth and relaxed hitting from someone who´s playing well within his ability:) very much like warm-up
    i would like to see how you look and move in match-play
     
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  14. Sumo

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    Your real problem is your surroundings are too beautiful. They are relaxing you too much and resulting in your lack of effort.
     
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  15. SOSINOSIS

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    Sureshs, LeeD, dominikk1985, sunof tunnis, rufus_smith, willroc7, t135, treblings, Sumo: Thank you for the feedback it is very much appreciated. I know what I've posted was merely a friendly rally with my brother and I, and it doesn't necessarily show my actual "in-game" play. But I must warn you, there's not a substantial difference. On my forehand, I have good knee bend and acceleration towards the ball. By backhand is a different story. I don't have enough knee bend, therefor robbing myself of the much needed RPM on the ball. It's in the works. =)

    Anyhow, I've never received any sort of instruction throughout my 10 years playing the game, but I do take pointers and suggestions very seriously. I very much appreciate the feedback.

    I'll see if I can get some footage of my brother and I, playing tie-breaks or something.
     
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  16. xFullCourtTenniSx

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    As long as you manage good footwork on every shot during a match, those strokes are fine. Nothing wrong with it. Unless your ball is coming off excessively slow, which it doesn't seem to be, your peers are just jealous or misled about how bad your stokes are compared to theirs (it's likely how bad their strokes are compared to yours).

    Only thing to really be worried about is footwork and mentality during a match. Strokes should hold up well. The form on the backhand seems to indicate a continental backhand? Maybe rotate it back a bit and you will be more confident in swinging out with it during a match.
     
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