LEAGUE TENNIS..Stick with your club? Or play for a team that wins..

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  1. fire_eaters

    fire_eaters New User

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    Hi everyone, I am playing for a 3.5 team right now and we arent doing too well. Im undefeated at #2 singles right now, but my captain has moved me into doubles. We actually have 3 strong singles players so i dont mind the move too much. The problem is with our doubles players..they are terrible. twice now this season we have won both singles matches only to lose all THREE doubles and lose the match..i am beyond frustrated by this because my goal every season is to make it to districts. I made it to districts last year on my 3.0 team and we actually made it to sectionals too. it was awesome. But last year i was playing for a different club. the club i play for now is very nice, and the people are great, i just feel like winning isnt the most important thing to them (it is to me). Should i think about switching to a club next year that i know will put out a strong team? The only reason im hesitating on this is, i dont want the club im currently at to be upset with me for going to the "rival" club lol I am one of the strongest players in the league so it would be a pretty big swing if i were to go to a powerhouse club.
     
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  2. Geezer Guy

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    That's a good question. I'm in a similar situation - except for being one of the strongest players in the league. I know when some of our stronger club players have "jumped ship" in the past, the remaining club members on the team have been pretty pissed at them. So, you've just got to figure out which is more important to you. You also have to realize you my leave this team for another, and THAT one doesn't make the play-off's either. Then you've got all your friends mad on a gamble that didn't pay off.
     
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  3. bodieq

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    If you're not actually a member of this current tennis "club," but instead you're just playing on their league team, I don't see what the problem is in jumping ship. Are you actually playing with friends on your current team (or just "nice" people as you put it)?

    ...But if you're actually a member of this tennis-club, but decide to play on USTA team for another rival club....that would be kinda awkward
     
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  4. spot

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    If someone is pissed at you for going to a team that you think fits better then they need to get overthemselves. Its not like you signed a contract that you are breaking. Its not like you are going to cost them the superbowl. Find the team that fits what you want the best.

    Personally I wouldn't want to play on a team of guys I didn't enjoy hanging out with even if they were better tennis players. My solution was to start my own team where I could get the right balance to me of beer drinking and competitiveness.
     
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  5. Gh0st

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    You have many things to consider.

    Do you want to be on a winning team where you might not play as much or do you want to play every match? Are you working on improving your game? Do your current teammates hold you back or are you actually getting something out of it? Can you play up to practice with better players and get some higher competition?

    Aside from not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings, the most important person to consider is yourself. If you aren't happy in your situation then you know what you have to do.

    I was in a similar situation this year. I lost one match at 3.5 this year and am considered one of the stronger players in my league but my team wasn't that great. I still enjoyed the people I played with but I also played at 4.0 where the competition was much higher and those are the people I practiced with most. Then again, my 4.0 team was next to last but I still had fun on both teams.
     
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  6. Cindysphinx

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    If you are not happy where you are, then of course you should change. You should try to be as friendly and diplomatic as possible, of course. But everyone knows that people change teams, and people who are Adults can deal with this without drama.

    That said, you have to consider the big picture. Like big fish in little pond versus little fish in big pond. The grass is always greener.

    And the cold hard fact that you will at some point find yourself as the weakest player on the team (like if you get bumped up). Are you confident that you'll be treated well at this new club when that happens?
     
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  7. Fedace

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    stick with your club, i think. people bail out when things go bad, due to selfishness, but that just makes that team worse and often that team disappears. Overall, this is really bad for the league and your region.
    Think about it and you will know what i mean.
     
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  8. vandre

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    this. you stick with your bros (or sisses). i am playing in a different league on a different team and i miss the guys from my team last year!

    friends > plastic trophy :twisted:
     
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  9. Fedace

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    I know what you mean Vandre. but USTA adult teams operate little differently. Most guys don't really have brotherhood or deep friendship. they mainly just show up to play tennis.
     
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  10. polski

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    if you're a diehard, win or bust person you should:
    - stick it out for the rest of the season
    - start meeting players on a different team
    - join their team next year since you have become "friends"

    if you're playing with friends & winning a 3.5 match isn't the end-all-be-all of your existence
    - stick with the team
    - encourage them to go to clinics with you
    - bring more beer to the matches

    I played the last 2 seasons with an 8.0 mixed team that was horrible. but, i liked the group and we had fun. i'm playing with them again this year & it is truly enjoyable. plus, we get the good competition against the sandbagged teams so we're getting better by playing against stronger opponents.
     
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  11. Cruzer

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    USTA league tennis is supposed to be FUN. If you are not enjoying playing on your current team then why would you want to stay a member? You need to figure out what your objective is in playing league tennis. If your primary goal is to be on a winning team then try to get on a team that meets that objective. You may burn some bridges by switching however that is something you may or may not want to consider.
     
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  12. J_R_B

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    The problem with jumping ship to the alpha team in the league is also playing time. I play for a team that has not been better than 0.500 in the 5 years I've played, but I enjoy it because it's a good bunch of guys and because I know I'm one of the best on the team and I always have a spot at 1st singles whenever I can play. I've been asked to join other stronger teams in the league in the past, but if I went there, I would just be one of 20 guys who are all just as good as I am, and I know I wouldn't play all the time because everyone else is just as good and the captain needs to worry about getting everyone eligible for districts and stuff like that.

    Just something else to think about. Be careful what you wish for...
     
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  13. ProgressoR

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    so your club has 3 singles players better than you and they are a losing club, but you are one of the strongest players in your league? i dont get it. If you go to a winning club, are you sure you will get a game there? I dont understand USTA league.

    Anyway, if your dubs partners are bad, why not ask the 3rd singles player to partner you, perhaps he wont be as bad as the current dubs players.
     
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  14. JRstriker12

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    Switch. Find a team that has similar goals to yours. If you want to make districts every year and have the sort of game to be picked up by a stronger team then do that.

    People will get over it if you switch clubs. Players switch teams and clubs all the time. I bet it won't even be news after a day or two.

    One word of caution. If you go to a team where winning is the main goal and has a more mercenary attitude, you may find that you don't play as often (seeing as your current club already has three players playing singles ahead of you) or that losses are not easily forgiven (lose once and you may sit the bench for most of the season).

    BTW- If your club is not competitive as it is, and seeing as it's a team sport, I doubt you switching will be that big of swing since the other teams are already a powerhouse.
     
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  15. NLBwell

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    I play league with friendly teams. If we happen to go to playoffs, it is more the sweeter. If I'm on a team who has rounded up all the best players, I don't get to play against the best players. If I want cutthroat competition, I'll enter tournaments.
     
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  16. fire_eaters

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    great input everyone..its really given me something to think about. I should also clarify that there are "3 good singles players" including myself. i could beat either of them any given day, and they could also beat me. its pretty even. i am also not worried about not getting playing time if i were on one of the stronger teams. In my opinion i could play #2 singles for anyone in the league and win there. Im undefeated so far this season at #2. My captain is bumping me to #1 doubles so we can try and get a win in doubles. i wont complain about it because i want to try the best to win for my team this season, but i really like to play singles more. If i were on another team, the doubles wouldnt even be an issue and i could play singles. Its really a tough call what to do..but its good to talk it out
     
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  17. Cindysphinx

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    All well and good. But if the new team has singles players that are even stronger, then you still might wind up riding the bench.

    And if you think about it, if they are a more dominant team, their No. 3 or No. 4 or No. 5 singles player might be stronger than you are. It still might be worth the risk, but there definitely is a risk. So you could wind up in doubles if you play at all.

    Being on a team where you aren't considered good enough to play absolutely stinks. I don't sign up to sit around; I want to play. So bench riding doesn't make me happy at all.

    The other thing to think about with being on a dominant team is that your regular season can be pretty dull. Destroying opponents one after the other isn't much fun because there's not much of a challenge.
     
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  18. J_R_B

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    With the stronger teams around here, it's not even really an issue of "riding the bench" because you aren't strong enough to play. Rather, these teams have 15-20 of the strongest players in the area, and they need to make sure that everyone has played 2 matches and is eligible to play in districts. Therefore, even if you are one of the top 2 singles players, your matches are limited simply because the captain has to get everyone in.
     
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  19. Jim A

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    I think part of the equation will be what happens next year?

    I'm in a similar situation, where we went to Districts last year and I was our top dog, this season has been a wash with injuries and I've just skipped league and played some tournaments.

    Even this season I had a chance to move to the team that is in 1st, regardless stayed with my guys. We get along, have fun and know that this is a growing year for all of us and I knew I'd be at 3.5 for '11 as well.

    Next year if I get some chances I will listen, if I thought most of my team would be moving to 4.0 in '12 it'd be another story. However by hopefully getting on a strong 3.5 squad in '11 it will allow me to also find a team for '12 @ 4.0
     
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  20. SuperLotto

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    If you are that concerned, step up and captain your own team. Then you can play where you want. If you aren't stepping up, you need to shut up...hate to sound crass, but that's pretty much the way it works. Sorry!
     
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  21. goober

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    He said the people at his club were nice, not his friends. He only has been playing with them one season so I don't think it is a big deal if he leaves.

    He stated that winning is important to him, so as far as I am concerned he already has made up his mind.
     
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  22. Steady Eddy

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    When I played my first inter-club, I remember that the pro told me that I was playing for: "Club, God and Country, and in that order!"
     
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  23. Cruzer

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    I presume he had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he said that.
     
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  24. netman

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    Well said. My approach is simple - I don't play tennis for a living, so I care more about hanging out with a bunch of interesting, fun folks than winning whatever title. Personally, I find folks whose personal self-worth is wrapped up in winning tennis matches to be uninteresting, self absorbed individuals.

    -k-
     
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  25. Steady Eddy

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    Yeah, I still thought it was funny though. Who really cares about their club? Which is my point for this thread.
     
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