Let's Gather All Grip Specs (Weight & Thickness) Into One Thread

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  1. Jocke

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    Overgrip: Gamma Grip 2 (0,40 mm). To me it feels slightly thicker, maybe 0,45-0,50.
     
  2. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Jocke, I sent you a PM, thanks!
     
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  3. TierOneSportsOfficial

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    One overgrip to add to the list: Tru Tack from Tier One Sports (thickness: 0.75mm) :)
     
  4. ChicagoJack

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    ^

    Okay cool, thanks for those digits, much appreciated! ;) List has been updated. By the way, welcome to the board. Great to see more company reps hanging in the TW Forum. We have always had reps here, but since they operated a bit undercover it always created some tension. Now we have officials (distinguished as such) from Babolat, Kniessel, now Tier One. I support the the trend and am certain the possibilities for two way conversations are mutually beneficial to both consumer and supplier.

    -Jack
     
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  5. ChicagoJack

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    Hmm...

    Now this is a puzzler. MSV has leather grips. Kind of a surprise in and of itself, but the weird part is that leather is almost entirely perforated. The other thing that has furrowed my brow is, while I can't see the all of the gold lettering, it looks like the last half of the words " Balmforth Of England" which of course is where the infamous Fairway grips are made. Check it:

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    -Jack
     
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  6. bt johnson

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    I do not like the perforated leather grips. The one I have weighs 28g trimmed which does not make sense to me. It's a Neumann and not a Fairway though
     
  7. JackDalton

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    Hi, sorry it took me a so long to reply, I've been away for a while. Good that I could help, even if those measurements weren't done by me.

    I'm afraid I was a bit unclear in my previous message. I also meant to say that I think you forgot to add the head syn grip measurements corners posted earlier in this thread:
     
  8. Torres

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    Another measurement for Wilson Pro Hybrid. 24.9g and 20.6g straight out of the packet, untrimmed etc.

    Talk about super inconsistent....
     
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  9. ChicagoJack

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    Jack Dalton, Torres - Got it, thanks!
     
  10. Torres

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    Wilson Shockshield - straight out of packet, untrimmed etc - 29g

    Made up of as follows:-

    Clear cellophane wrapper - 0.5g
    Included Wilson grip tape - 0.5g
    Thin random foam piece - 0.2g
    Grip with wax backing paper - 27.7g

    Another Wilson Pro Hybrid - untrimmed 23.7g (grip 23.2g with wax backing paper 0.5g)
     
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  11. ChicagoJack

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    List has been updated, thanks!
     
  12. Rokushio

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    Excellent work, guys! Thanks a lot.
     
  13. djNEiGht

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    Anyone have specs on the pro Kennex leather grip that comes on the heritage redondo?
     
  14. Torres

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    I find myself regularly referring back to this thread for that HL balance scale and everytime I'm considering buying a racquet or thinking about potential tweaks.

    The info is turning out to be surprisingly useful to thanks CJ for starting it.
     
  15. bt johnson

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    Agreed. It's a goldmine of info. Hey CJ, what's your take on the Donnay Leather? I pulled one off an old Borg racquet ( fairly new). I really like it, I'm trying to decide between Donnay leather, Prince Calfskin, or Prince leather grips from the Pro
     
  16. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Torres. No problemo :) It's been fun, and it's been a collective effort for sure. You've been a major contributor to the thread, and I'm sure many appreciate your participation here as well.

    Hi bt johnson -

    Regarding Donnay leather, it's a good news / bad news kind of thing. I purchased four new leather grips because I really liked the feel and tack of the stock leather grips on the Donnay X-99 Blues, and x-99 Blacks that I purchased in used condition. The first thing I noticed is the grips that arrived new in the box were a much richer color than the somewhat faded color on my used Donnay frames, and the new leather seemed to have less tack.

    The first time I changed an overgrip I understood why. Much of the die color came off as I unraveled it. See pics attached. While that is disappointing in terms of QC and appearance, the good news is it feels better, is more tacky as it ages, fades, and gets beat up a bit. Might explain why I like the feel of the old leather vs the new leather freshly installed.

    I'm happy to use bare leather for the fall and winter indoor seasons, so tack is an important issue for me. The Prince Calfskins that I tried out last year were just stunningly beautiful. A very unique deep chocolate color, really striking on an all black minimalist frame like the Donnay Pro One, but were just a complete disaster with the slightest hint of perspiration. The aged/faded Donnay leather gets more even tacky with a little perspiration, but then there is a point where bare leather just does not work at all.

    One last thing, the leather on that Borg racquet of yours is not really a useful comparison point. The Donnay that had it's heyday in the tennis boom years, and manufactured racquets in Belgium went bankrupt, and bears little resemblance to the Donnay of today. The new line of frames is largely the brain child of Roman Prokes, and is run by a group out of NY which is licensing the brand.

    Hope that helps!

    -Jack

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  17. bradsm01

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    Does anyone have the thickness for the Prince Resi Pro Replacement grip?
     
  18. ChicagoJack

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    hi brad, djNEiGht

    I've added those two grips to the request for specs list on the first page.

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    Requests For Missing Thickness Digits

    Missing Replacement Grips:
    Dunlop Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)
    Becker Leather ... (ChicagoJack, 6-11-2013)(Muppet,6-20-13)
    Pro Kennex Leather/Heritage Redondo ... (djNEiGht, 7-20-13)

    Dunlop Hydramax (Stock Aerogel Grip) ... (Rozroz, 6-15-13)
    Dunlop Gecko Tac ... (MaXXply, 6-7-2013)
    Dunlop Tour ... (Payam,6-8-2013)
    Gamma High Tech (Standard) ... (Muppet 6-20-13)
    Prince Resi Pro ... (bradsm01,8-8-13)

    Missing OverGrips:
    Dunlop Viper Dry ... (Muppet,6-20-13)

    -Jack
     
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  19. lgbalfa

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    i could not find it on here but can someone tell me the thickness of the dunlop leather grip?

    thanks
     
  20. robbo1970

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    Dunlop leather grip.......here we go!

    Now, in my excitement in putting this on I forgot to weigh it untrimmed, but then I thought "hey, who has an untrimmed grip on their racket".

    It is the same thickness as a Babolat skin feel, so without splitting hairs, 1.5mm and installed onto my Bio300 it added exactly 11g in weight.

    I have another to put onto my other Bio300 so I will weigh it untrimmed.

    Watch this space.....
     
  21. lgbalfa

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    how does it feel?

    for a leather grip, softer than others or just as firm?

    thanks
     
  22. Galdust

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    Anyone knows the weight of Gamma Supreme and Wilson Pro overgrips? Thanks
     
  23. robbo1970

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    Overgrips are about 5/6g.
     
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    It has a softness. Obviously firmer than a firm synthetic grip, bit in my experience, softer than Wilson leather and softer than Gamma (which feels very firm).
     
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    Dunlop leather grip untrimmed - 25g
     
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    Angell grips.

    All untrimmed with cellophane.

    Leather 33.1g
    Synthetic 19.4g and 18.6g

    Stock synthetic grip 15.4g trimmed/fitted (removed from a stock Angell TC100 G3)

    (Slightly OT but word of warning about the Angell orange synthetic grip. I thought it would be orange/brown like a leather grip but its very bright fluorescent orange. Not what I expected at all)
     
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  27. ChicagoJack

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    Whoo hoo! Finally some digits on the elusive Angell and Dunlop grips. Much appreciated. I will update the big list asap. Thanks Torres, robbo :)

    Jack
     
  28. bt johnson

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    Chicago Jack- how can I email you some pics?
     
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    Oh, Hi BT ... just right click on my user name. I have my email linked in my user profile.
     
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    Have you ever also tried the TW Private Label leather grips? If so, how does it compare to the Dunlop leather grip?

    I'm just surprised that the Dunlop leather grip is the same 1.5mm as the thicker TW grip, yet weighs so much less. From the master list, it looks like the TW 1.5mm grips are 30g or above, but the Dunlop grip is only 25g?

    How is the quality of the Dunlop grip compared to other leather grips? Does it seem like dense, solid leather (not flimsy)?

    Thanks.
     
  33. robbo1970

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    I'm in the UK so have not tried the TW grips.

    Maybe the Dunlop is a little shorter in it's pre-trimmed form that gives it a lower weight....not sure.

    The quality of the Dunlop leather is the best I have seen. I have tried Wilson, Prince and Gamma and the Dunlop just has a better feel and quality about it.
     
  34. BreakPoint

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    Thanks for the reply robbo.

    Any chance you could post a picture of the Dunlop leather grip installed? I'm trying to get a better sense of the actual color. How dark is it? It's hard to tell from the pic of it inside the package.

    Thank!
     
  35. SFrazeur

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    Unique/Tourna "What a Grip" the thin version is 4g.
     
  36. ChicagoJack

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    ^^ Got it, thanks SFrazeur. Added to big list on 1st page. ;)
     
  37. UncleRico.

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    Was looking for a resource to regrip my new IG Speeds from the weirdly mushy Hydrosorbs. I found an old set of Pro Supex leathers I wanted to put on my old LM Radicals but never got around to it. Popped those bad boys on the scale:

    29g, untrimmed, with all the backing and finishing tape and such on it still.
     
  38. alpinenut

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    Head Hydrosorb Pro trimmed to size 3 14g
    Head Leather Tour Untrimmed with tape and plastic 27g. Trimmed to size 3 24g.
    Gamma Supreme Untrimmed with tape and plastic 8g. Installed but not trimmed over size 3 Heather Leather Tour 8g.
     
  39. ChicagoJack

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    AlpineNut, Uncle Rico... thanks for the digits, much appreciated. big list has been updated! :)
     
  40. robbo1970

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    I'm trying to find out the widths of a few leather grips.

    Particularly the following:

    Wilson
    Head
    Babolat

    does anyone have this info please?
     
  41. robbo1970

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    Hi BP, I've got camera issues at the moment. However, the Dunlop Tour Classic leather grip (which I am using) is a darker brown colour than the more common tan leather grips around. I would describe it as milk chocolate.

    I was using Gamma, which is a very firm leather grip, whereas the Dunlop has a quality, plushness to it...if you know what I mean.

    One thing I do notice with leather grips is that the feel does change over time as the seem to contract a little and firm up. Hence the instructions that come with Fairways on how to retain the feel etc.
     
  42. robbo1970

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    Just saw on another retailer website that they have the Dunlop Tour Classic leather listed as being 1.5mm thick
     
  43. ChicagoJack

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    Cool, that one's been missing for quite a while. thanks for the info!
     
  44. Lukhas

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    Pro's Pro Aquazorb 55 listed at 0.55mm thickness. I weighed it at 4grams, be it installed on my frame (didn't cut any of it) or straight out of the box. I have some Ichiban too, but they have a plastic reel inside it, so measuring it like this would be pointless.

    My Wilson Comfort Hybrids are at 10 grams after being cut and installed on my frame.
     
  45. robbo1970

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    And it added exactly 10g to my Dunlop Bio300 when installed.
     
  46. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Luhkas, robbo1970, I've updated the big list one the first page. Thanks!
     
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    Prince DuraSoft - 2.4mm

    Not sure of the weight, just got this info from some research into thick grips. This has to be one of the thickest.
     
  48. ChicagoJack

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    Hi robbo, Thanks! much appreciated. The big list on the first page has been updated. Yonex makes the premium comfort which has a slightly contoured profile so it's 1.6 - 2.6mm. But as far as I know, that's a new record for flat grips. - Jack
     
  49. SFrazeur

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    I bought a Kimony Techni Leather grip (0.8mm) and like a fool I forgot to get the weight.

    Kimony USA does list the following specs:

    -Thickness:0.8mm
    -Width:25mm
    -Length:107cm
    -Weight: 10 grams
     
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    OK, thanks for the info, robbo. :)
     

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