Let's Gather All Grip Specs (Weight & Thickness) Into One Thread

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  1. WhereIsMacMac

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    Dunlop Hydramax Tour (the one installed on old Hot melt 300g) is 2.00 mm (*I'm not using a precision caliper) and 17 g installed.
     
  2. ChicagoJack

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    Thanks MacMac - Dunlop specs are always appreciated. Not much info provided from the source, so we have to piece it together ourselves. List on first page is updated.
     
  3. boinz

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    just to chip some extra info on Kimony Techni that I recently bought and installed

    14g un-installed without the double-sided tape
    15g un-installed with the double-sided tape
    (the supplied double sided tape is not stuck on the back of the grip in the package)

    10g installed and cut
    (leather grip is not too long wastage is minimal)

    its a thin leather grip... feel is really good, very soft and lush
    but I was hoping for a 2 size grip reduction, but end up with only 1 size
     
  4. corners

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    2 sizes down requires going bare handle. :)

    Just ordered my first Techni this week. I am anticipating a sharper bevel feel due to the thinner leather. Not sure I'll like that, but having the lighter + thinner option is great. Think I'll go with a thicker over grip is the bevels are too sharp.
     
  5. boinz

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    ^^^ now you tell me corners :p

    I'm sure you will like the Technis... Bevels are shaper but the like you said having a lighter thinner leather grip allows more room for customization.
     
  6. WhereIsMacMac

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    These grips are hard to find too
     
  7. MAXXply

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    Anyone know the thickness of the Prince ResiPro as fitted on the current Prince Classic Graphite 100?

    (apologies if it is listed somewhere here, I couldn't find it)
     
  8. robbo1970

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    1.8mm

    Ive been meaning to add this one to the list.
     
  9. corners

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    Tourna MegaTac overgrip, blue, untrimmed, uninstalled: 5.5 grams

    Tourna grip XL, untrimmed, uninstalled: 5.5 grams

    Kimony NeoDry overgrip (KGT 143), black (gray, in actual fact), untrimmed, uninstalled: 4.8 grams
    (BTW, NeoDry feels identical to tournagrip; it's even short like it. But it does have a pre-cut taper, and comes individually wrapped for the luxury market.)

    Kimony Techni Leather, black, untrimmed, uninstalled (sans double-sided tape): 12.1 grams
     
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  10. Bundey

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    I have a couple of questions regarding the installation of the Kimony Techni leather grip.

    1. Did you place the double sided tape on the back of the grip and then grip the racquet? Or did you wrap the tape on the pallet and then wrap the leather over the tape?

    2. Are there differences in feel based off the 3 colors available? (Black, Brown, Orange/Tan)

    3. Did you utilize the nails? Just one?

    4. I've never regripped a replacement grip. Is the Kimony fairly easy since it's thin?

    5. Please give other general tips.
     
  11. corners

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    1. It's typical to just put the double sided tape on the handle and then wrap the leather grip over the top of that.

    2. Don't know. Only have a black one.

    3. I never use nails.

    4. The Techni is OK, but since it's expensive I would practice with a cheap replacement grip to get some experience before you wrap the Techni. If you are replacing a grip that feels good to you (other than being too big), I would carefully note how that grip is wrapped for the first three turns - where to start, where to begin angling away from the buttcap, etc. That's the critical part; once you're past the buttcap a monkey could do it.

    5. See #4 above. You might want to choose a thicker or more cushiony over grip to pair with the Techni, as it is really very thin and leaves the bevels much sharper than a normal leather grip would.
     
  12. Bundey

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    I'm hoping a monkey can do the whole thing! :wink:

    According the the grip data compilation thread, a kimony plus a Yonex Supergrap is the exact same as the stock Yonex grip. I think I'm going that route.
     
  13. corners

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    Good luck! I'm sure you'll get it.

    Yeah, Kimony + Supergrap should work for you. Might be a little sharp, but Supergrap has a nice cushiony feel to it.
     
  14. corners

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    Anyone have weights for Tourna

    Pro Tour replacement grip?

    Pro Thin replacement grip?
     
  15. Bundey

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    Yep. That was my line of thinking in moving away from Wilson Pro. I remember Yonex have a little more padding. Plus brand uniformity with my new Ai 98s. :)
     
  16. corners

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    Jack, several weights in post 259
     
  17. ChicagoJack

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    Cool, I have updated the big list with info from: Corners #259, robbo1970 #258, and boinz #253. Thanks for the digits guys, much appreciated!
     
  18. boinz

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    one more leather grip to contribute

    Yonex Leather Grip - ac221
    feels really nice and tacky, won't say it's the softest but neither is it the hardest
    width - 27mm ( according to the package )
    length - 1000mm ( according to package )
    thickness - 1.4mm ( according to package )
    weight from package - 26g
    weight cut and installed - 22g

    cheers
     
  19. corners

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    Did Techni not work out for you?
     
  20. boinz

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    oh the Kimony work fine... these are for my usual Head rackets where the grip size is right. I needed to Kimony for a pair of Wilsons which I cant get the size changed.

    actually I am loving the Kimony so much I am thinking of using Kimony for all my future regripping.
    becos firstly, they are light and thin so I can use any overgrip i like and still get a good feel. the lightness allow me to add weight if necessary to get rackets matched.
    secondly, they are cheaper than most other leather grips whilst not lacking in quality
     
  21. TimothyO

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    This thread really needs to be made sticky. Have the mods already ruled on this? If not, we should ask.
     
  22. robbo1970

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    Just weighed a Dunlop Biomimetic Tour replacement grip and Prince Durasoft replacement grip.

    Dunlop - 15g
    Prince - 20g
     
  23. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Timothy, I have not asked the mods, and I'm clueless about the procedures or process for "stickyfication"

    Hi boinz, Got it, thanks!

    Hi robbo1970, Thanks! Dunlop specs are especially hard to obtain. But just to make sure, these are untrimmed specs?
     
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  24. robbo1970

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    Yes, both the Dunlop and the Prince grips were untrimmed, straight out the packet. The Dunlop Bio Tour is effectively the new version of the Hydramax Tour.

    FYI the Prince Durasoft is a light alternative to Shock Shield. Thick, but not squishy, a decent firmness to the cushioning.
     
  25. ChicagoJack

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    ^ thanks robbo, list has been updated.
     
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    Again, the meatiest and most useful thread ever.
     
  27. ChicagoJack

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    I'd say thank you but I can't take credit. It's been a collective effort with many contributors chipping in tidbits of info little by little. I just wish more companies would hitch a ride on the clue bus and make this information more readily available on packages or websites. We are often eager to experiment and part with hard earned dollars, but are hesitant to purchase without knowing even the most basic details.

    I've seen many grips with 3 paragraph descriptions from the company website, yet exactly zero information about weight or thickness. It's as if they think we need to be romanced, coerced, or cajoled into buying their product. I'm not buying a Lexus lol, it's a 12 dollar grip I'm looking at. Ok fine, it's cool to know the design was inspired by the DNA structure found in Gecko saliva. But just tell me what it weighs already!
     
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  28. Casco

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    Kimony leather

    Just installed even lighter ones. 10.8 grams, trimmed. Selected from a number of Kimonys that varied considerably. I was looking for light ones. Installed on two Yonex Vcore Tour 97 racquets.
     
  29. WhereIsMacMac

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    How long is the 3 pack tourna original overgip? Anyone measured?
     
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    Just swapped grips on my 27.25" grip type/size D3 vantage. Put on a Prince ResiPro that I weighed at 15.0g trimmed.

    The grip is a little on the long side with the slightly extended handle and all, plus I didn't stretch it too much, probably explains why mine is a half gram heavier than the one here.
     
  32. ChicagoJack

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    ^ Thanks Mig1NC, much appreciated! Big list on first page has been updated.
     
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    does anyone have any experience with victor viscount leather grips?

    i like bare leather but i also like that this grip is contoured to possibly give you more of a secure grip with less slippage.

    thanks
     
  34. JackB1

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    Why isn't this thread sticky-d????
     
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  36. robbo1970

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    This thread has to be stickied!! It's one of the most important threads on this forum, without question.

    I have found, through testing different grips and using the research carried out on this thread to choose and try grips, that by having the wrong feeling grip can completely change the feel of a racket as you play with it.

    I have tried grips that just didnt feel right, to the point that I couldn't play comfortably with my racket. A grip can be the same weight and thickness as another grip, but the feel of the surface can completely change the way the racket feels.

    As it happens, I have actually settled with one of the cheapest grips available, but one that carries a lot of heritage and a good reputation.

    Perhaps we need a section that also describes the surface feel of synth grips?
     
  37. ChicagoJack

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    Thanks for the nods of approval, but I don't think many people read the stickies anyways? As of right now, the sticky thread has 19,543 page views, and this thread has 43,547 views since I kicked it off last summer.

    Anytime I start to get delusions of grandeur about the significance of this little corner of the inter tubes we are all contributing to, I simply need to look at the view count for the thread "Post Pictures Of Your Tennis Bag" which has 344,387 hits. Someday this thread might be as popular as Racquet Bag Porn LOL!

    -J
     
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  38. robbo1970

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    Could be a new one for the list.

    Wilson feather thin. Untrimmed with backing tape - 10g. No note of thickness, but it is thin. Seems thinner than Bab skin feel.
     
  39. corners

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    How would you compare the surface feel (tack, absorption, etc.) and cushioning/firmness of Featherthin with other replacement grips you've tried?
     
  40. robbo1970

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    I will let you know when I have installed it. In terms of initial feel, it feels like a thin spongey layer, not dissimilar to an overgrip, but with slightly more of a base to it. Surface wise, medium rubbery tack, more similar to Bab Skin Feel than Resi-Thin. I will know more once I have installed it.
     
  41. ChicagoJack

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    Hi robbo1970 - Very cool. Thanks for this and all of your previous digits too, much appreciated. Yes, that's a new one for the list, and also a new record for lowest weight untrimmed. -J
     
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  42. WhereIsMacMac

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    Noticed this thread lacks Karakal Super PU's weight. Just measured one. 17g untrimmed
     
  43. WhereIsMacMac

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    Gotta agree this is one of the most important threads here
     
  44. ChicagoJack

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    Oh hello again MacMac, list has been updated. And thanks.
     
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    My first impressions having hit for a bit. Not great.

    Durability seems low. It feel like an overgrip with a rubbery surface coating applied to it. It also doesnt wrap very flat at the edges.

    IMO if you want a thin grip, go for Skin Feel.
     
  46. corners

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    Thanks. Yeah, I've tried skinfeel, tourna prothin, resithin, kimoni techni and skinfeel is the only one worth a darn. IMHO. Still would like to try **** syn leather but their price is larcenous.
     
  47. ChicagoJack

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    There is a Prince synth grip which I have seen on a few Prince racquets. I can never figure out what it is. It looks like brown leather from across the room, (which will always catch my eye) but on closer inspection it's a tacky, thin, synthetic. It has very pimpled, extruded texture, in a kind of basketball texture pattern. Can somebody hitch me a ride on the clue bus?
     
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  48. robbo1970

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    I know that Prince have been using the Resi Pro in a tan colour on some rackets, but the only one I can think of that has that pimpled texture is one made by Gamma. Its a reddish brown colour and literally looks like a bbasketball/football rubber.
     
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    I use Skin Feel on my Exo3 93 and wont bother with any other grip. Of the thin Grips, Skin Feel is hard to beat.
     
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    Installed the Karakal PU Super Grip 12 grams installed, about 2mm thick
     

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