Let's Hear It for the Sleeveless

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Should Sleeveless for men be banned again?

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  1. Love Game

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    I spy with my little eye: Two players wearing sleeveless in this picture portraying the start of the season. (I know they do these things in advance, but I can still hope it means there's a chance Rafa will wear sleeveless for the AO and beyond.)

    Bottom line: There was a time that sleeveless was banned, and I initially hated sleeveless ... until I saw rafa in wimby 2008. After that I was like the scene in the movie "10" where the man and woman are running toward each other in slow motion, iow, blinded by the light.

    In Doha yesterday monfils was wearing the red sleeveless (the nike that rafa had been wearing in USO) and rafa was wearing his new bold stripe polo, but monfils won soooooo ........
     
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    Sleeveless rules. Nadal should go back to sleeveless imo. It is intimidating as well if you got the guns.
     
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    Sleeveless shirts are good if you have the guns to match. Rafa looks terrible in that polo, his style is brute topspinner. You can't really do that in a polo with a shirt pocket.
     
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    I agree w/both of you.

    button-down rafa?
    just doesnt make sense.
     
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    You guys are strangely fixated with Nadal's arms, why don't you lot just get out of the closet and start campaigning for him to play topless. :roll:
     
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    Long live the sleeveless! Nadal should go back to it, he looks too restrained in polo shirts. The guy exudes raw energy...
     
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    I don't mind the sleeveless. I hate the capris.
     
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  8. babbette

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    I like him in anything but I do miss his old look. I think he does too. At times he looks uncomfortable with his shirt. It's one thing to wear those for practise for one hour but when you're in a physically demanding match, since he sweats a lot, it's a different thing.:(

    Hopefully this whole look will go away before RG and we can pretend this fashion faux pas never happened. :mrgreen:
     
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  9. kungfusmkim

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    I like him wearing the sleeves better than the sleeveless. It look like you guys never seen people wear a muscle shirt... or been to abercrombie. On top of that he looks more formal. Tennis is a formal sport. Rafa isnt a raging teen anymore his actually over 20 so i think it suits his age
     
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  10. babbette

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    mmmmmm...thinks
     
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  11. babbette

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    they messed with an international brand by covering up those guns!:evil: lol.:) but let's face it, Rafa's look, fitting with his attitude on court, was one thing that attracted many non-tennis people to the game. Lil wayne likes him too for gods sakes. :mrgreen: Now he loks like any other player. If I came into tennis now, I would say what's the big deal? other than he's number 1 of course
     
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    Then thats like asking would you like a your grandmother who is a wild granny to be in booty shorts and a sleeveless on a motorcycle? Im just trying to say... maybe his trying soo hard to grow up He might want to be appreciated and look professional infront all those rich people!
     
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  13. Oui c'est moi.

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    I can't do it.
    I consider underarm hair to be unsightly.
    If the sleeveless men were to shave just like a lot of sleeveless women do i would be ok to look at it.
     
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    but he's only a baby...22.:( why can't he do him and not have to fit into the mould of what a number 1 tennis player should be?:( Moya's old arse is still sporting the look...why should Rafa have to deprive us of some viewing pleasure?:cry:
     
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    Yeah seriously he needs to go back. That intimidating bicep fist pump just brings him out more. I guess he feels he needs to change for some reason.
     
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    You're likening Nadal to a grandmother :shock:. You know he's 22 right? Even in the context of a tennis career, that's young.
     
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    I blame uncle toni and pr..because I can. :mrgreen:
    next thing you know they'll tell him to rub the hottest pepper all over his hands so that if he attempts to pick his arse again, it will burn.:cry:
     
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    people forget he's only 22.:( when I tell my dad he's shocked.:(
     
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    Its like the stage where big boys want to try new things such as taking off training wheels because everybody else did and also because he feels he is older. Or a person trying to look older by idk putting stuff in there hair and wearing Ralph Lauren. Nadal is the same. He wants to look older now. Remember when Agassi cut his hair got a new look no more wild child?
     
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    Says the person with the guy brandishing his naked armpit at us in her/his avatar :-? (I do agree that a new avatar is needed :))
     
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    I don't see any naked armpit.

    I'll change mine if you change yours, you've had that one longer.
     
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    let's not even go there. This is as drastic a change as si'm willing to take at the moment. :mrgreen:
     
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    Nadal is the classic version of agassi but moderated level. Agassi was pulling commercial cannon, graham crackers everything! Then he decided to change cause he grew up:D! Everybody was wierded out then they got used to it and starting even liking it.
     
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    You can imagine it, it's worse. I don't have a topless picture of my guy for an avie, so I'm surprised to find out that you are the prudish one (repelled by the sight of hair- and sweat!) when your hero is parading on everyone of your messages naked for everyone around to see!
     
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    I mean jeesh basketball players do it, Swimmers do it anywhere they see hair so i dont really see what the problem is..
     
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    I don't either but "oui c'est moi" said she doesn't like to see guys' armpits. I pointed out it was funny since she's the only one to have a topless guy in her avie...
     
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    How does that make me prudish? :? I said i find underarm hair unsightly. In my culture it is considered unsightly, i hope you understand now what i meant.
    And sweat? Where did i mention that?

    He is topless, not naked. Your very idea of 'naked' is making you sound prudish...

    I didn't ask you to pick a topless pic of YOUR guy (is you name Xisca by any chance?), i just suggested a change.
     
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    Shes french isnt she? shes probably surrounded by metrosexuals. alot of europeans are. If men started wearing man bags i think they already shaved everwhere they possibly can.
     
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    What culture is that? You sure realize that Federer is showing his armpit on your avie, no? If it's Ok for Fed I don't understand why it would bother you for Nadal but no big deal, never mind...
     
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  32. Oui c'est moi.

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    Again, i don't see his (Federer's) hairy armpits.
    Armpits are not a problem for me, man or woman. I just think if you're going to brandish them for hours on end, at least shave.
     
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    Let me help before you get her blood pressure up to 4000. her culture is from france one of world's, top fashion cities. And men are mostly metrox which means... They act as a stereotypical homosexual in the eyes of americans you know, wearing brands, caring about getting things dirty, fussy when people touch their perfect hair and all. However, they still are hetero
     
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    Umm, veroniquem is French not me.
     
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    LOL okay so veroniquem lives in france and he doesnt see whats soo wrong with shaving?
     
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    You do realise his armpits can't be seen in the avie, yes?
    And since when did i make comparisons between Roger and Nadal here? The thread mentions Moya and Delpo too. Maybe you read into things that were never there. :/
    Like the thing about me being prudish. That came out of thin air too.

    I am British but i was specifically talking about the foster culture i grew up in. Growing up I lived in largely Muslim area and even lived with a Muslim family for while (they are family friends). Anyone who is familiar with Islamic practices will know that even the men are expected to shave their underarms.
     
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    ***coughs***....Moya's old arse?????
    He's got a great body...still!!!!!
     
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    Actually I am French and I don't mind hair (or metrosexuals for that matter!)
     
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    Thank you for answering my question about culture, it's very interesting, I didn't know about that islamic custom (even though I had Algerian and Moroccan friends in France). I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about the avie but as I said before, it's no big deal.
     
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    Damn those sleeve-less international players with cute english accents. Moya and Nadal are the reason that nike denied my Wimbledon Wetsuit Tennis Line. PAT#-34789001-32-098.
     
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    Here's what I don't understand about the whole age/maturity issue regarding the wearing of the sleeveless:

    gael monfils.

    i've never seen anyone write that monfils needs to dress according to his age, needs to mature, he's too old for the sleeveless. why?

    he and rafa are the same age.
    both born 1986. rafa june. gael september.
    and yet i've been seeing people writing about how rafa needs to wear the more "mature" polo for at least 6 months. not a word about gael.

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    given rafa's losses in qatar and ?the one before that? wearing the polo, i say he needs to go back to sleeveless, because that's the way he's comfortable.

    p.s. once gael beats federer ?3? times in one year, the calls will become loud for him to wear a polo, too, I suspect.
     
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    good one! :lol:
     
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    that's the objection I had, too.
    and it's probably the reason it was previously banned.

    although, i have seen 1 or 2 women with it, and that was just as disconcerting.
     
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    Of course they shouldn't be banned,why uniform the sport in such way? I'm all for variety in playing styles,personalities and clothing.I agree with those who say Nadal should go back to sleeveless,it suits his personality and game like a glove IMO,also showing off his defined guns helps promote tennis as more of a "macho" sport so it may appeal or attract larger audience(those who are not hardcore tennis fans).Nadal just doesn't look like himself in polo IMO.

    As for Nadal needing to dress more mature or that he needs to dress more according to his age,just look at Moya and Blake,both of them are some of the nicest and mature guys on tour and they're still wearing the sleeveless even at their respective ages(29 and 32).There's nothing wrong in that IMO.
     
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    i particularly agree about the "macho" aspect. i've sometimes heard that some men dont believe tennis is a macho sport to begin with, and that attitude affects both their viewing habits as well as which sports they choose for themselves to play.

    on the other hand, those same "macho men" might not have the guns to wear the sleeveless! :lol:

    youre right about the personality match. and i have a hard time believing rafa's gonna stick with the polo. i really hope he doesn't.
     
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    Look at him....he just couldn't wait to wear sleeveless again! :p
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    ahhhhhh!!!!! music to my eyes! [​IMG]

    I simply cant imagine those arms with tan lines across the biceps! :mad:
     
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    I'm not a huge Rafa fan, but he looks so much better in sleveless. It's just his trademark, plus it also set the tone for his rivalry with Fed, the sleveless vs. the polo.
     
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    Macho?


















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