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  1. Up&comer

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    Alright. So I'm 16, and I recently played a 5.0 50 year old. I beat him 6-1. What would that translate to in level? I dont need an exact number, just an estimate.

    Thanks for any help.
     
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  2. JoelDali

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    Do you use gut or poly? Wear Joma clothing?

    I'd say 6.5+
     
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    a 6.0 is almost a pro, or a college player. I don't understand how a 60 year old man could be a semi pro or a college player? Most likely old man is not 6.0
     
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  4. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    yeah, it's like beating Rod Laver, does that make you 7.0 even though he can hardly walk?

    How good is the 60 year old now? (because I really doubt he is 6.0)

    I get to hit with a guy who has won the wimbledon age champs in the 60s division a number of times and while he's good, he isn't a match for even a 5.0
     
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    Maybe he plays in a 6.0 league........ not a 6.0 player?
     
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  6. Up&comer

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    Sorry. I meant 5.0. Whoops.

    And 50 year old.
     
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    And I was having a pretty darn good day.
     
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  8. The Bawss

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    Sounds like ******** unless he's an ex-ATP player....in which case you wouldn't beat him 6-1.
     
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  9. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    well, a 50 year old 5.0 is a very different beast to a 60 year old 6.0, that's for sure...

    you would be a 5.5 more or less I would think if that is the case.
     
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  10. Up&comer

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    Alright. Thanks.

    Ive been a 4 star on tennis recruiting. I've taken about a year and half off to work on my game. Good deal.

    Now that being said, on an average day it would have been more of a 6-3 set.
     
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    Well, just keep in mind that an older 5.0 might have plenty of game for 5.0 doubles, but singles is a different animal.
     
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    Ditto that. I'm sure the 50 yr. old 5.0 is very good, but I'd be willing to bet on a 5.0 team he's playing doubles only. Of course there's always the exception, I just have not seen it myself. If possible, try playing a 5.0 who is around 25-35 or so. You'll be able to better gauge your of level doing so.
     
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    Very true! I have the chance to practice with some mid 20 year old 5.0's and they are quite a bit different then the older 5.0's I've played before. Their games are so punishing, it's hard to get a footing with them unless you play them often. I've never beaten them, but I have taken a few sets off them LOL! :)

    -Fuji
     
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    the 50 year old is probably not 5.0 then. probably more or less a 4.5....with this stupid NTRP system u can sit there forever.
     
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    I'd imagine genuine 50 year old 5.0s are pretty damn rare. You would have to be an exceptional player for your technical ability to be able to make up for your physical frailty at that age.
     
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    He's in really good shape, and still moves pretty well. He played d1 college and his son played top 4 on UNCG.
     
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    Well if his son played top 4 on UNCG then he must be a great player. :p

    I'm sure he moves okay but I'm still skeptical that even a former D1 player would be a genuine 5.0 at 50.
     
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    With only 1 set, it is tough to get a true read on your NTRP but just based on the limited data you gave, I'd have to say 5.5.
     
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    Yeah, when I first came back to the sport I was playing a guy at an old job who told me he was rates 5.0..so I thought, wow, I must be at least a 4.0 to be able to take games off him!!

    Turns out he was really a 3.5 and I was a 3.0 back then, I figured this out after playing many more people with actual legitimate ratings.
     
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    Not the norm, but there are still a handful of guys over 50 who still play at a 5.0 level, especially in doubles. I know a 50+ year old that has bounced around between 5.0 and 5.5. He usually waxes guys half his age at 5.0, and many times makes it look easy.
     
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    There are a few guys here over 50 that play legit 5.0 singles tennis.
     
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    If you beat a legit 5.0 player 6-1 in a single set, it would be impossible to say what your NTRP would be other than 5.0 or higher.

    What is your National ranking? According to the experienced player guidelines if you are ranked in the top 150 nationally in the boys 18s, you would be 5.5.
     
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    Ive been as high as 156 in the nation when I was a freshy. I haven't played in tournaments lately and I'm not rated now.
     
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    +1

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    Definite 5.5 at a minimum then. If you have improved since those tourneys maybe higher.
     
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  26. Up&comer

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    I've picked up some pace on my serve and groundies, and I move better now that I run alot more. I'd say I'm a little more consistent as well. Nothing too drastic other than I'm way fitter and stronger than I was.
     
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  27. jdubbs

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    Why not play a few tournaments at 5.0 with much younger players and see where you're really at?
    Or, better yet, play Open tourneys to gauge yourself.

    NTRP gets pretty fuzzy after 4.5, honestly. 5.0 tourneys don't get many participants. You're either an Open player or you're not.

    BTW, I played a self described 5.0 the other day in his 30's and I won, but that doesn't make me anywhere near a 5.0.
     
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    Without playing more than 1 set against a 50 + yr old 5.0 I would say going with the 5.5 is premature.

    But heck, with self-rate who really cares or would know anyway. It's just a number. Call yourself a 7.0 and go with it.
     
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    I played a few highly ranked state juniors in Florida when I was 15-18 years old in tournaments. Never got a game off any of them and I was probably a 4.5 in high school. I have to think those guys were at the 5.5 level.
     
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