Life in the Southwest

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  1. acura9927

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    We are about to get out of hell ( Pac NW winter) in a few weeks. To the folks in the Southwest AZ and NM would you trade your location for mine? I completely dread every coming Football season or October. I don't have the job skills or money to leave, just escape mentally sometimes to a sunny and open place with lots of room for bikes and motorcycles. :cry:
     
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  2. LeeD

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    I"m usually wrong, but I thought SW would be like SanDiego or LA.
    But, desert is no rain (less than 10 days all winter), dry, hot, often windy, sometimes dusty, lots of wide open spaces like in JohnWayne movies, hotter than hell in summer, really nice in winter (73 degree days predominate), you job situation depending if you live in Tucson/Phoenix or out of your camper in the mountains.
     
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  3. stringertom

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    The Great Southwest is an outdoorman's dream...biking, hiking and (believe it or not) boating...Arizona has the highest per capita boat ownership in the nation!
     
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  4. LeeD

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    Yeah, LakeHavasu is a boater's dream, waterskiing, fishing, personal watercraft, and every kind of powerboating known to mankind.
    Tennis is pretty good too. Year round outdoor play, public courts.
     
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  6. acura9927

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    You learn something every day, I would have thought greatest amount of sunscreen bought per 100k person.
     
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  8. LeeD

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    We've all been to Seattle, Vancouver, and Portland in the summer.
    It felt like winter, and I come from San Francisco's fog belt out near the ocean.
    Dark, wet dreary, no tan, no shorts, no smiles.
     
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    Lots of smiles and I'm sure a hefty increase in munchie food sales in WA as a result of the new "happy law"!
     
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    I might trade for July and August. Most Arizonans, though, know people who have moved to Seattle or somesuch and couldn't take the dreary winters and came crawling back. You get used to the sun. Of course, we are tied with Australia for skin cancer rates.
     
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    Drought is a killer here in Texas, I want to retire to Washington State where i won't have to worry about it anymore.
     
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  12. acura9927

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    I think I want to live between Albuquerque and Santa Fe. ABQ has a bad reputation for crime so what the good things like scenery, lack of people and space more than makes up for it. Plus Santa Fe is sure nice to be close to.
     
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  13. LeeD

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    I heard SantaFe was at least as expensive as living in SanFrancisco, but with a job availibility next to zero.
    But a good camper, solitude living in a canyon up in the mountains, away from everyone, might be pretty cool.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCdwKhTtNNw

    There is no perfect place to live. The spot with nice weather, plentiful jobs, low cost of living, low traffic, low taxes, etc. is located on Utopia Street over in rural Mythology County.

    Where it gets interesting is where you can do whatever work it is you do remotely. If this is a possibility, then many parts Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Florida start to look very attractive IMO.

    If not, the choices are basically all in California, where a considerable part of that job's pay will go to real estate, crazy taxes and the passed through costs of local and state government incompetence. I have come to consider it a price of entry, but it doesn't make it any less ridiculous.
     
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    I'm with you. I live in the South and plan to stay here. I just thought of the song when I read the thread title.
     
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    Ah, the land of enchantment. I was born and raised in New Mexico. My Dad was born in Santa Fe and now my parents live in Albuquerque. My favorite city is actually Las Cruces (where I went to college) but I love almost everything about New Mexico, especially:

    1. 300+ days of Sunshine every year
    2. Chile! Red and Green.
    3. The Air (there's something about the Pinon and the mountains in the north that brings a very clean pure smell to the State)
    4. The people (an eclectic mix from all over the world)
    5. The art and Culture
    6. Did I mention the CHILE and the food in general. It's not Mexican Food,
    it's NEW MEXICAN cuisine.
    7. The Diverse landscapes. From Mountains, Deserts, Lakes, Mesas, Flat Plains)
    8. The amazing Film/TV production that has exploded the past 20 years. Breaking Bad was filmed there. Nuff said.

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  17. Fifth Set

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    Can you play tennis year 'round in NM? Are there decent facilities and players in the state?
     
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    Yes you can play tennis year round in NM, and there are some great players in the state. Where in NM are you headed? Permanently? Vacation?
     
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  19. LuckyR

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    Wow, if Pac NW winters are hell, I assume you've never been to the M1dwest or the East. True they are dreary, dark but that is what keeps the Californians from staying here when they move up after selling their McMansion for a mint. Keeps out the riff raff.
     
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  20. LeeD

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    I always thought PacNW summers were hell, like drizzle most days, lots of fog, and some rainy days.
    Here in SanFrancisco, it hardly rains any day or night during the summer months of May thru Oct.
    I'm not much on job skills either, but that hasn't stopped me from living within 15 miles from SanFrancisco most of my life.
     
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    It is true that in Portland summer does not include May nor October. But June through Sept it is uncommon to be foggy/drizzly and rainy. Unlike Frisco and Seattle, Portland is an hour inland.



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  22. LeeD

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    You focus on Portland. Where does OP live?
    What about Vancouver and Seattle? Is that off your radar?
    It can be drizzly and 54 degrees in the SunsetDistrict of SanFrancisco, while 10 miles away, 100 in Marin and the same in Orinda, about 14 miles away.
     
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  23. urundai

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    Here in LA, it hardly ever rains any day or night, period. From Jan to Dec (both months inclusive).

    We are in for some nasty water rations soon.:)
     
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  24. LeeD

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    I worked in SantaMonica one year around the mid '90's. Mudslides, flooded streets, and closed Highway1 for lots of days in the winter. We worked up the mesa, the hill above SantaMonica beach. At least 5 houses slid partway down the hill, and the foundation of the house we worked on shifted so it needed new parts added.
    It CAN rain in LA, just not this year YET.
     
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  25. mikeler

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    We are normally dry in Florida during the winter. I think we stole California's rain this year, getting sick of the wet weather.
     
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    January was dry...2.5 inches below average (0.24" fell). We've just had a couple of stationary fronts come in and hunker down until enough tropic breezes build up and force them out with the resulting thunderboomers. Sunday's storm up in Daytona was a doozie and ruined all the 500 fun. Today's storm will probably put us over the normal 3 inches for February but not by quite a lot.
     
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  27. Sentinel

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    You guys living in the US are so lucky, so blessed, all the open spaces and the greenery. I should have stayed on there, when i had the chance decades back :(


    Every time i see a movie, i envy you guys.
     
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    Greenery and The Great Southwest...oxymoronic. While traveling eastbound by jet from Phoenix to Dallas, the view on a clear day from 30,000 feet is nothing but a sandy color until you approach the Texas hill country west of Big D.
     
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    okay i was talking about the US in general. I have lived mostly on the East coast. Haven;t seen the deserts. But even then, i am right about the open spaces, right ? If you see how crowded it is in our Asian cities, you'll know how one can ache for the open spaces. And the quiet.

    I've lived in California too. Amazing, the coast. Driving down from SFO on Highway One. I wonder how much has changed since then. That was in the 90's, bro.

    You have a beautiful, stunning country, guys.
     
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  30. stringertom

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    Woody Guthrie said it all in "This Land Is Your Land".

    Yes, it is wide open, particularly west of the Mississippi. I believe Wyoming and Montana have the lowest population density of the lower 48 states...these two adjacent states are home to less than 2 million people in almost 250,000 square miles. Not far behind are the Dakotas, Nevada and New Mexico. And then there's the Last Frontier...Alaska! Very BIG and very few brave souls!
     
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    Even the months it has not rained have been more cloudy. December was probably the best month for Florida sunshine. I got a sunburn on the winter solstice and was loving it. :)
     
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    Maine makes for some rugged winters (especially this year). But it's nice to change seasons. It also is nice to feel as if you've earned it, and spring is much nicer. Of course I'm sure all of this will change as I get older and things like skiing don't do anything for me. PacNW is on my short list of places I'd move.

    Arizona/NM certainly aren't... Ha
     
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    yes, yes, yes, I know Twain never really said that, but I needed someone in the 'quote' section
     
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  34. acura9927

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    I was about to take a trip to PHX, until that spring training stuff drove car rental prices almost as high as the flight, hotels went up a bit too. Perhaps I should go during low season when its 115 degrees to get the best rates?
     
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    Alaska !!! Too cold for this tropical creature. But i heard the skies are awesome (heard maybe in True Detective).
     
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    Wyoming, been there once, if you like free and alwasy windy and hardly a soul that's for you. I mean the biggest city Cheyenne has no parking meters in their Downtown. Lots of towns with dirt roads.
     
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  37. LeeD

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    Several of my friends and peers in the old days moved to Montana, bought huge ranches, and have been living there for over 30 years now. Of course, they made money, were rich.
    I could never see it. They were confirmed boat sailors early in life, and had been dedicated windsurfers later, so how can they live away from the ocean?
    Me, I need the ocean for peace of mind. Being a former surfer for 25 years, now really only windsurfing, the ocean is a big part of my life. And 3 hours away is 10+ ski resorts. The Valley is an hour away, for road bike riding.
    And there are 100+ public tennis courts within 40 minutes driving distance.
    As for MarkTwain.....he lived back then. Now, with the advent of CARS, when it's foggy in the summer, around 54 degrees at noon, you can drive 20 minutes out of SanFrancisco and find 85 degree weather and full sunshine.
     
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    Sometimes I think maybe LeeD is Mark Twain. Didn't old Samuel once say "rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated"?
     
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    You DO know, don't you, that I never did any homework thru 12th grade.
    I never read TomSaywer, GreatExpections, MobyDo, or any of that required reading. I'd gloss over them during recess, walking to school, or before the teacher started his lectures.
    But I listened to the lectures, got A's from that, C's from homework information, and managed to play school sports well into college, with barely passing grades.
     
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  40. LuckyR

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    Well, I live in the Rose City, hence the focus (similar to your focus on Frisco).

    It just struck me as odd that a guy from the Bay City would lament Pacific Northwest summers for their fogginess and drizzliness. I guess you'd be the expert in that sort of thing...
     
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    Yes, my home was in the fog belt, like 40 + days in a row, mid summer, of no sun we could see.
    BUT, just 4 miles SW to the peninsula, was 80 degree sunshine.
    And 10 miles N, across the GoldenGate, was 90 degrees and sunshine.
    Not to mention, 13 miles E, and 85 degree sunshine.
     
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  42. LeeD

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    Oh, am I opinionated?
    Of course, this site wouldn't exist without opinions.
     
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  43. acura9927

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    Living in SF sure beats the hell of out life in Toronto. Have you seen the home prices in TO? What do you get for the money? Half the year double layers of sweats and water resistant snow shoes? Not worth it to me if I was a professional, I do what I could to leave.
    Vancouver is Canada's tropical getaway in winter!
     
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    I might be wrong, but I thought living in SanFrancisco was the highest cost of living besides Manhattan.
     
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    I wouldn't trade to live in the NW. I like having no snow and lots of sunshine. You just get chased by Gila Monsters once in a while.
     
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