Lightest 'Control' racquet (and string combination) ???

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by D. Nelson, May 30, 2004.

  1. D.  Nelson

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    I'm wonderin what everybody's PLAYTESTED "opinions" are, regarding the question above......... I'd really like to find something with the Wilson Hyper 6.1 feel/control/length (27.5 --- maybe up to 28")....BUT with the feel and weight and MOBILITY of the new Volkl Tour 8 S.E. ....?!?!?! Thanks for the input !!!!
     
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  2. rooski

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    Haven't hit the Volkl T8 SE but if you want a lighter control racket with a cushy feel, try the Head Ti Radical MP and string it at 58-60 with a thin (17-18g) syn gut or multi.

    The TiRad MP is 10.8 oz strung
     
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  3. D.  Nelson

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    ......thanks for that --- BUT --- I want the extra length and hopefully at least 100" head.... I HAVE hit with the frame you suggested....!!!!!
     
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  4. Pushmaster

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    You might want to look into the Pure Drive Plus, although at 11oz. it may be a little heavier than you like.
     
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  5. D.  Nelson

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    .....thanks.. Again, not a bad suggestion --- I've owned/hit with it....and it's not the weight that I wouldn't 'like' --- to me it doesn't have anything CLOSE to the control of the 2 frames I was talking about !!!
     
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  7. D.  Nelson

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    .....thanks....THAT is funny --- I took the demo of that frame out at the SAME time as the Tour 8 S.E. .... !!!! To me, the Cat 6 is too powerful and doesn't have the control/feel of the Tour 8 S.E. ....
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    I have an old Dunlop Adrenalin 98 that sort of fits your description but seriously, it is too light for most players. The Surge/Adrenalin/Spirit may work but to find them.
     
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  9. D.  Nelson

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    ....OUCH !! I appreciate your thoughts (really!!)... I had a Surge....a LONG time ago....for about 2 days.....don't even REMEMBER how it played...!! I share your opinion on your other racquet suggestions....... I think the Tour 8 S.E. would be good for me if it was 1/2" longer and a TOUCH heavier (almost like a more flexible Tour 8!!!) !!
     
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  10. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Head Ti Radical fits. Plus, it is a bargain now.
     
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  11. D.  Nelson

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    .....Hahaaha !! That's the 2nd time I've heard that !!! I want the extra length........
     
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  12. El Diablo

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    Concerning your comment about the Tour 8 S.E., "a TOUCH heavier" is not difficult to do on your own.
    Generally, I think your parameters don't exist in one frame. Light weight and 28" aren't generally found in what one would call a "players' frame", as "players" generally prefer heavier and shorter.
     
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  13. D.  Nelson

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    ....thus enters 'the challenge' !!!!!
     
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  14. brijoel

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    this isnt a challenge, you are asking for something that doesnt exist.
    extra length and lightweight will hafta have some stiffness, larger head size, or become head heavy to make up lack of weight which will reduce whatever amount of control you were looking for.
    so what you are looking for is a long, lightweight, large head, flexible racquet essentially, that has control?

    this is a tad rediculous, you want a tweener frame, but at the same time it sounds like you just want to be able to say you have a control racquet.....the only racquets i can think to suggest either arent light or arent flexible.
    perhaps the prince diablo mid plus would be worth a try? im really at a loss here.
     
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  15. Ronaldo

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  16. D.  Nelson

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    ....aaahhh...NOW we're getting a little more on 'track' !! I actually like BOTH the Zylon Control+ AND the Drive+....it's just that I'm demoing the Tour 8 S.E. right now...and it seems 'close'...!?!?!?
     
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  17. Coda

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    Wilson Surge X or Pro Kennex Type SX
     
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  18. D.  Nelson

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    .....thanks.... The Surge 'X' just remended me of the Pure Drive '+', and the last ProKennex I hit with, was one of the Laver models...nothing special to 'me'...?!?!!
     
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  19. Coda

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    yeah, the surge and surge X are wilson's answer to the pure drives. In my opinion, the surges have a much better feel. The type sx are in the laver series.
     
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  20. mackadilly

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    Yonex MP- Tour -1 XF
     
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  21. D.  Nelson

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    ....thanks.....I demoed it....either the static weight or the swingweight didn't feel right to me.....
     
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  22. rooski

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    D. Nelson...you might want to just give us a list of the rackets you already hate (which seems like a lot of frames) so we can better help you find the holy grail of rackets.

    FWIW...I found the Zylon Babs (PD and PC) extremely stiff. Also, the PDZ is a head heavy (read...hammer like) racket and does not resemble the PD Team racket in any appreciable way. The PCZ could be a possibility for you if you can handle the stiffness.
     
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  23. D.  Nelson

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    ....thanks, but.......nah!! I've hit with JUST about everything !! It's easier to just hear from other people....but that's why I asked for PLAY-tested opinions....anybody can read a stat sheet....!?!?!?! :)
     
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  24. Ronaldo

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    D. Nelson, just suggestions, never found a 10-11 oz, 27" racquet that supplied enough power to drive through the ball.
    Seems Volkl and Head make plenty of low-powered control sticks. Yonex had quite a few too, all used by Hingis.
     
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  25. hofertennis

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    Most lighter frames tend to have more oversized heads. Dunlop 400G is 27.5 inches, very light and 100 head size, sometimes too powerful.
     
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  26. iscottius

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    I have a Fischer Pro #1 XL 98 sq in, 27.75 in legnth, 10.8 oz's
    huge serving racquet with control off the ground.

    it's condition is 9 out of 10, e-mail me if you are interested.

    Based on your requirements it is a perfect fit

    iscottius@netscape.net
     
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  27. Pushmaster

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    You obviously have never hit with the Ti. Radical. :wink: Doesn't plow through the ball like a 12 oz. stick, but has plenty enough drive.
     
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  28. D.  Nelson

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    ...I DO like the Ti.Radical......but I want the extra length....
     
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  29. jack mckinney

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    Have you tried the Dunlop 400G. I have used it and it is a nice frame. Good Luck on your search
     
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  30. D.  Nelson

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    ....Hi, Jack ! Yea, I DID try that frame...liked it for awhile...I'm actually; just now, trying to take most of the 'overt' power OUT of a Prince OUTLAW..... I mention that only to give everybody a 'gauge' as to the type of feel/swingweight I'm working on right now...I might go get another 400g to demo, though....!!!!
     
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  31. brtennis

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    Volkl Quantum 5!

    27.6 in, 110 sq in, 10.0 oz strung, flex 67?

    It has been discontinued but can still be found in **** for $49.
     
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  32. womackD

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    I havent had a chance to hit with it yet, but the new Volkl Vengine 8 might be what you are looking for specs wise...
     
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  33. Smashlob

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    The dunlop 300g OS or MP are nice racquets and would probably work for you, they're light.

    I reccomend both of them, the 98 sq in MP is the better racquet though.
     
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  34. rooski

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    This gets my vote as the most annoying thread of the month. :x

    "Try this"......."Tried it...hated it"
    "Try this"......."Tried it...hated it"
    "Try this"......."Tried it...hated it"
    "Try this"......."Tried it...hated it"
    "Try this"......."Tried it...hated it"
     
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  35. D.  Nelson

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    ....settle down......or turn the channel............. !!!!!!
     
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  36. TommyGun

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    Try the new X-45 Corp. Pro Series...

    Just talked to the Director of Player Services at X-45. A guy named tom kosinski. He says that the X-45 HK95-2210 (the black one they sell) is the lightest "control" racquet on the market, although he didn't call it that. I went to their website and saw that it has player type specs but a 10.5 ounce weight. I'm really jazzed about these new frames.

    tg
     
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  37. D.  Nelson

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    .....HEY !!! Something REALLY 'new' for a change...I'm on my way to check it out....Thanks !!
     
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  38. D.  Nelson

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    ....I just went to their web-site :
    www.x-45.com

    ......I HAD seen/heard of that concept before.....never had one in my hand, though...YET !!!!!
     
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