Ljubicic 2003 USO transcript....

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  1. Manda_D

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    there have been people commenting on things that he said in this interview so i found the entire thing...

    hes so bloody bitter! he lost and couldnt seem to get over it. pretty funny stuff though!
     
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    cool. good find.
     
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    Who was he talking about? Roddick?
     
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    yep.. after he lost to him at uso 2003
     
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    I was thinking about this yesterday. I remember people on these boards in 2003 defending Ljubicic to the death because his opinions were "trustworthy" and "honorable." I think, though, these were just anti-Roddick bandwagon folks lookin' for anything to feed their hate for the American.

    Plain and simple, as we saw yesterday, Ljubicic is a big ole baby who just can't pull it together mentally for the slams. It's weird because he's clearly shown the fortitude to win big (as in Davis Cup). But he just WHINES like crazy about irrelevant things when he should just be focussing on executing his game.
     
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    Agree!
     
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    YES thats exactly right. he tries to come up with excuses and tries to make himself seem the hero and all the others in the locker room love him.... but whats the bet they all mock him behind his back and are being sarcastic towards him..

    god he annoys me!
     
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  8. Feña14

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    I like him and respect what he has to say.

    I believe he was telling the truth about Roddick in that interview. If I was on the tour and had him doing things like he does on court I wouldn't be too impressed either, i'm sure a few players aren't too happy about it yet he was the one to speak up about it. Fair play to him.

    Roddick was pulling all kind of stunts in that particular US Open, in that match and also the Semi against Nalbandian that was quite frankly sickening with the crowds behaviour and the conduct of himself and the line judges.

    Do you really think Ljubicic would lie about people telling him to go out and "kick his ass"? That's not something you would make up.

    Ljubicic also says that the players want Federer to beat Nadal, which I can also totally believe. Roger is one of the nicest men on tour and people don't mind losing to him with his brilliance. It's going to be frustrating losing to Nadal when he camps out 5 foot behind the baseline and just makes you win the point so many times. Plus the players know what winning tomorrow will do for Roger, with him holding all four at once and make the Grand Slam a real possibility. The players want to be part of history and they know that Roger deserves it. Nadals constant fist pumping and jumping around and rubbing your face in the fact that he has out defended you surely doesn't go down well with all the players.

    Ljubicic is probably also right on that account.
     
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    respect for Ljubicic...for whom?? slam winner!! mater series winner!!! just Davis cup is not enough and Mario won the last match to lift Davis Cup.


    shhh this guy can't win any important matches (look at his record in finals)..

    how on the earth one can respect and trust him..no way

    world go with winners not other way
     
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    so if someone wins 5 grand slam that means he should be a respectful person?!
     
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  11. The tennis guy

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    How many of you remember that match?

    I was at the match that day. I have to say Roddick was a little over the top in that match to me.
     
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  12. Chadwixx

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    The 2003 was such bs, lube was right.

    Roddick was the only player who played to schedule and the only player who was allowed to practice. The tournament officials actually called him to let him know a court was availible to practice on if he wanted after the coria bjorkman match was haulted.

    Along with 100 other things that went down during the tournament. Im sure lube wasnt the only player who was pissed off at what roddick was given.
     
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    Do you understand the rules of tennis? You have a certain amount of time in between points and nadal consistenly exceeds this. What is so hard to understand about this? Its a rule violation that anyone who can count to 25 should be able to figure out.
     
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  14. 35ft6

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    On Roddick...
    On Nadal...
    I like Lube, but when he first said something about the "guys in locker room" about Roddick, I thought it was a bit lame. Like a kid saying "everybody in class thinks you're fat." Now it appears to be a pattern. Maybe he's one of those people who think they had to work hard to get where he's at and he simply can't stand young pretty boys who are successful right out the block?
     
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    Time has shown Ljubicic was correct about Roddick. Roddick was an ass, but got away with it because he was flavor of the month. There was a push to get him over on the public and give him all the breaks.

    But, alas, he was TOO big an ass. Fans started realizing it, and stopped caring about him. As soon as he dropped out of the media spotlight, he stopped getting gift calls ten times a match, his results went in the crapper, and he's been a non-factor ever since.

    Ljubicic, to his credit, has also backed up his stance by being a better tennis player than Andy week-in/week-out, ever since.

    Does Ljubicic choke away matches he shouldn't at the ends of big tournaments? You bet'cha.

    Does that mean he's necessarily wrong when he says Roddick and Nadal are frauds whose results are artificially propped up by ATP-sanctioned cheating? No effing way.

    Ljubo is the Jose Canseco of the ATP. The only guy telling it like it really is.
     
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  16. Chadwixx

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    He makes two similar comments over a 3 yr span and you have a pattern?

    Its not like he is serena who makes the same comments after every loss.
     
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  17. DashaandSafin

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    Meh. I think he thinks that he thinks that hes too good.

    Makes sense?

    Basically hes big headed.

    Now before you go telling me his past, i know it already, he is pretty big headed. He said before his Nadal match that he felt like he had a good chance, big chance at beating him. He said that he saw no special things in Nadal's game.

    What a load of bull.

    Im sure nothing special about Nadal's game, thats why he beat Federer 3 times this year.

    The guy is a good player, of course, huge serve and forehand as well as backhand as well as nice touch at the net. However, i hope he's a bit more careful about his comments next time, or they could be misconstrued. Things are often lost in translation as Twistserver knows.
     
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  18. 35ft6

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    Yeah, I was going to edit it, but was too lazy. They are similar though.
     
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  19. The tennis guy

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    Unfortunately the press got the wrong quote, and you and many others don't bother to check whether it is true or not. Read his interview transcript, he didn't say guys in locker room this time.

    Q. Do you have an opinion about what may happen in the final on Sunday, and do you care who wins?

    IVAN LJUBICIC: Well, I would love to see Roger win it. I think everybody will because it would be nice. He is the best player probably ever in tennis and it would be, I think, nice to see him lifting the trophy here.
     
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  20. The tennis guy

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    Again, unfortunately people like you have a pre-conception of someone without checking exactly what he said. This is what he said before Nadal match - judge for youself, not what someone else interpreted or paraphrased for you:

    Q. This will be the fourth time you will be playing Nadal. Extremely close matches, all on hard court. How significnt do you think the clay is going to be in changing the conditions in which the two of you have played?

    IVAN LJUBICIC: Well, I don't think there is any doubt that he is a big favorite. I don't think only in the semifinal, but also in the final. I think of four of us left, I think he's definitely the favorite one. Then Roger, then David, then it's me.

    Q. Do you have to believe you can beat Rafael to beat him? He has such an aura now, he's won all these matches.

    IVAN LJUBICIC: I'm not impressed with that streak. I mean, it's fantastic results. But he was close of losing matches so many times that, as I said before, it has to happen one day. And I do believe that I can beat him, yes.

    Q. Who would be more intimidating on clay, Roger or Rafa?

    IVAN LJUBICIC: Nobody can intimidate me, I think. My ranking is good enough, I think.

    Q. More difficult?

    IVAN LJUBICIC: It's different. I mean, Rafa, it's more probably physical than about concentration because so many balls look so easy and you just find yourself not hitting the winners that I see all these guys.

    But Roger, it's Roger. I mean, he's just fantastic player. You never know what is gonna happen. You know more or less what you can expect from Rafael, but I would always be more worried about Roger.
     
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    Just a note, about 10 years ago, I started to realize what reported of what one player said in interview about others didn't necessarily match what they said exactly in interview. I started to have this habit going to the website, reading interview transcript. It tells you almost completely different stories.
     
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    No problems with Ljubo here, he's totally on the ball, what's the issue????
    Long live Ljubicic he was in a position to be sure, and sure he was
     
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    Ljubicic just says what's on everyone else's mind. What does he care? He's a tough guy, he's been through a lot in his life, so if he feels like one of the little kids he's playing against is acting up then he's not afraid to say it. It's a lot better than saying the same thing everyone else says. "Unbelievable match, I had my chances, I didn't take them, he won. That's it."
     
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    when you are winning you don't make such comments only losers do??
     
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    Ljubicic is Jerk. He seems that he can't accept the fact that he lost to a better player, and he keeps whining throughout the whole interview. It's a good thing he always gets his ass kicked in the finals when he reaches it.
     
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    Regarding 'winners' in general(not specific to sport), lots of 'winners' out there are also wankers. Winning is not everything. I don't see the correlation between someone who is successful and someone who is trustworthy. You can be a successful yet reprehensible and dishonest individual. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is even arguable that the 'winners' in this world tend to be the less savoury characters.

    Regarding Ljubicic, if what he said is true, then there is nothing wrong with him relaying it. Don't shoot the messenger.
     
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    I've noticed that every time Ljubicic bashes a superior player (Nadal, Roddick, Nalbandian, etc.) he always ends up getting his ass kicked. :lol: Ljubicic brags about how he's the real No. 2 player in the world, that he's the only player who can beat Federer, etc. and yet he has absolutely nothing to show for any of this bravado. It's kind of hard to take someone who suffers from delusions of grandeur seriously.

    The USO incident just shows how much of an out-of-touch ass he was then and continues to be now. By taking the high road, Roddick came out of that whole thing smelling like roses.

    Nadal took the high road too and so Ljubicic was forced to do a little damage control by sending Rafa a half-assed e-mail apology. LOL.
     
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    What's wrong with saying you have a good chance, particularly if you are playing well?

    People seem to forget that pros are not fans. They don't run around in awe of the other players. They see them as colleagues and competitors. You know, peers and equals. They are never going to go around worshipping players like fans do, saying things like they have no chance of winning. Any player who is 4 in the world, definitely has a chance of beating any other player in the world, regardless of rank or surface. Why would he say he has no chance? Of course he has a chance.

    I think you are misrepresenting what Ljubicic has said. Can you support any of your claims with quotes? The duplicitous thing about misrepresentations, is that they have an element of truth, despite being false, so people are more likely to believe them than barefaced lies. It's a trick that propagandists and politicians use all the time. Obviously, I cannot tell whether your misrepresentations are intentional, unwitting or derive from misrepresentations relayed to you.

    One example, your assertion that Ljubicic said he was the real No.2. I don't ever recall him saying this. I recall him saying something along the lines of being the in form number 2, at the start of the year. I think this was accurate because he had the best results after Federer, earlier this year. The fact that the ATP have a race ranking alongside the entry ranking, demonstrates that there is some special significance to league type placings, as well as ranking based on the previous years results.
     
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    Umm, okay. That's the weirdest recent history of tennis that I've ever read.

    What an idiot I am! I was under the simple assumption that Roddick's decline had everything to do with lack of confidence, concentration, and technical improvements in his court positioning and strokes. But now I see it's all about ATP marketing.

    Right . . .

    Anyway, Ljubicic has no business talking smack about people when it's simply motivated by his own crappy tennis play. Big a big boy and own up to your own faults, dude.
     
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    Do you understand how condescending you are?

    YES, I understand the rules of tennis, though I'm puzzled as to how we got on the topic of allotted time between points on service suddenly. I don't like that Nadal does that either, and he should be penalized.

    But this is beside the point: Ljubicic's motivations for complaining have little to do with his opponents and everything to do with his own game. He should talk more about himself and less about what everyone else is doing wrong.

    I don't know why anyone likes this guy, to be honest.
     
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  32. DashaandSafin

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    I heard it from the commentators. I didnt read it from a transcript.
     
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  33. DashaandSafin

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    He isnt exactly Brad Pitt either...
     
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    are you?:)
     
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    Like I said in another topic, when it´s several players that have troubles with Ljubo...one starts to ponder whether the bad guy is him, or all the rest at the same time. Makes sense?
     
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  36. Ivanišević

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    no..
    i thought players had trouble with roddick!
     
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    Make the challenge

    Players like Ljubicic should have the guts to call the other players on the carpet right then and there. If Rafa is taking too much, question the chair umpire. If he or she doesn't give you the satisfaction, call for the head official! It is easy to complain about it later, make the move when it counts.
     
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  38. Count Grishnackh

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    People stopped caring about Roddick because he started losing earlier in slams and tournaments and mainly because he couldn't beat Fed. No other reason. There are a whole bunch of a s ses out there. Ljubicic is just a jealous loser, everyone in the TW message board thinks so. =P
     
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  39. DashaandSafin

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    Actually yes.
     
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    then i'm terribly sorry,brad:)
     
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