LOL! Is Sharapova really that scared of another Serena beating?

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  1. octogon

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    Maria Sharapova has just withdrawn from the Italian Open, citing a "mystery illness" that she had last week (when Serena spanked her in Madrid).

    Sharapova was cruising through the draw in Rome, having thrashed Sloane Stephens 6-2 6-1 yesterday. She would easily have made the final. But by the looks of it, so would her master Serena. And there's only one outcome in that match-up.

    Has there ever been such a blatant strategic withdrawal in a tournament to avoid a confidence sapping beatdown from an opponent? We all know Sharapova will be perfectly fine for the French Open, and likely cruise her way to the final, handing out breadsticks and bagels along the way to various WTA no-hopers. But she must be hoping Serena's usual bad luck at the French holds, and somebody knocks her out before she can get to the final.

    I know constantly getting beat by Serena is humiliating, but this is not the way to deal with it.
     
  2. DRII

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    how do you know how she was feeling in Madrid?

    she was raather listless in that final (she had absolutely no footwork). of course Serena has the edge vs Sharapova, including a huge mental advantage. But Sharapova was very close to beating Serena in Miami on a hard court until she got very tired.

    it is very possible Sharapova was not 100% in Madrid...
     
  3. DRII

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    also, IDK who was in Sharapova's half, but its very likely that Azeranka or even Stossur could have taken her out...
     
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    Wow!
    Nice to see the face ( a very pretty face) of the WTA turn women's professional tennis into a non-sport. They should call it a reality show as opposed to an athletic competition.

    Someone will be up Indian Wells in 5...4...3...2...
     
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  5. dafinch

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    Hey, getting taken to the woodshed a dozen straight times would likely make anybody ill, lol...
     
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    Still droning on about how she "...got very tired," huh? For the umpteenth time, whose fault is THAT? Hilarious how her supporters have been reduced to pointing out how she was "very close" to beating SW, lol
     
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    Well, her footwork is rather poor in any case, but she did not appear to be out of sorts.

    Come on, with the FO around the corner, she bailed not only to avoid yet another tennis clinic from Dr. Williams, but to make sure of the biggest players, she would have time to be fresh--more than anyone going deep at Rome.
     
  8. DRII

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    you're silly and haven't been paying attention if you think I'm a Sharapova supporter :confused:

    i'm just stating what I observe...
     
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    I agree her foot work isn't the best on her best day and there may have been some aspect of her wanting to avoid a drubbing and get some more rest/recovery time, but i can still see how she wasn't playing very well in Madrid.

    I think Sharapova feels, if shes playing and feeling well, she has a decent chance to defeat Serena especially on clay...
     
  10. Lukhas

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    Well, nobody called you a Sharapova supporter. Yet. Well, we are not seeing the same things: she cruised through Madrid (until the final) and Rome, and then pulls out for "sickness". I'd like to mop the floor with the whole tour but one player while being sick personally. Either she's sick and tired of Serena, either she wants to spend more time with her BF for his birthday, either she wants more time to prepare. A combination of all three IMO.
     
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    Yes but before all, I have a feeling she really did not want to lose to Victoria who usually also destroys her game and is playing pretty well in this event... a back-to-back defeat to Williams and Victoria would have totally sink her confidence for Roland Garros.

    She was really fine in this tournament with her game - the reasons of her w/o is really as transparent as it gets because her level of play had nothing of abysmal to justify a w/o. Furthermore she was about to play Errani - I respect Errani but 60-75% Sharapova would have still defeated her so all this is kind of weird from the Russian.
     
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    Or maybe she really did have something wrong and didn't want to take any unnecessary risk this close to Roland Garros where she looks to defend her title.
     
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    Everything to lose, nothing to gain. She is certain to meet one or both of Serena and Vika at French and/or Wimbledon. Say she loses to Vika here at Rome as reigning French Champion, it will be a huge blow to her confidence, whereas Vika losing to her on her worst surface is no upset but a big confidence boost if she beats Maria on red. IF Maria did beat Vika, even worse, she will receive yet another big beating from Serena on red in as many weeks. 2 red clay loses in 2 big events and if she faces Serena in the French final, seeing Serena's form, it will just be a third beating, even if she did make it there after being utterly destroyed at Rome and Madrid by Serena. And then Wimbledon comes around....

    Joking of course. In actuality, Maria is a busy business lady indeed with her Sugarpova line to launch in Paris at Colette on May 22nd. It's from 4-6pm!
     
  14. DRII

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    guess you didn't read the post I responded to...
     
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    "I was already a bit off in Madrid and played though it and it came back last night and I got sick again and it's not smart to compete again,"

    It was a mistake playing Rome after feeling sick during playing Madrid.
    Sharapova has been playing a lot of tennis this year so far, so she should have rested.
     
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    No, "silly" is alibing a player's numerous losses with the incredibly stupid excuse that she got tired-as if stamina is some act of God, completely out of player's control-and pretending not to be a Shoulderpova supporter, for good measure. For somebody who is NOT a supporter, you sure spend a lot of time explaining away her losses.
     
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    Yes I did. There was no accusation of you being a Sharapova fan IIRC, wasn't it? He was talking about "Sharapova fans". Not especially you. Unless you feel aimed at by his words.

    EDIT:
    I wonder if those candies are good. And not overpriced. Trying to find a replacement for Arlequin... :lol:
     
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    Maria is very busy because she has two jobs, unlike most wta players they only has one(playing tennis).
     
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    She's full of nonsense. She thrashes the field comfortably till she gets to Serena. She was doing the same in Rome as well.

    Claiming to be "sick" last week is also another way of trying to discredit Serena's victory (ie, she might as well be saying that she only lost because she was ill).

    I know for the sake of her sponsors and fans, who want to see her as this all-time great champion, they have to keep the illusion going that she's still compeitive against Serena, and not just her turkey. It hurts Maria's image (she's obviously no Kournikova, but it must suck that basically one player is killing her reputation so badly). The negative PR from her most recent loss to Serena hit Team Maria hard. The Tennis media is no longer even pretending there is a rivalry. Without Serena around to whip her, her sponsors and the tennis media could probably sell her as some sort of all-time great (career grand slam, winning clay streaks etc). But the constant Serena beatings make her look second-rate, who just happens to be strong against the rest of the field in an average/weak era. It's a big, big problem.
     
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  20. heftylefty

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    Did the Williams Sisters get more than a little bit of grief for their business ventures outside of tennis? While winning Slams.

    Wow, have things changed. At least Maria won't be burden with winning anymore Slams.
     
  21. TMF

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    Did anyone denied the WS have their own business ?
     
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    I agree but for consistency's sake, she'll have to come up with 12 more excuses.
     
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    I agree with this also.

    I watched the AO 2007 final and Maria was so much more gracious in defeat back then.

    She clearly thought she would be able to win some of their matches in the future.

    At this point, Maria is probably doubting she'll ever win again. Her only hope is that Serena's play falls considerably over the next couple of years due to Serena's age.

    However, by that time, there's a good chance there will be some young players coming up who can outplay Maria.
     
  24. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Really Shriekapova? The guys on the Chicago Bulls played through the flu and was puking during the timeouts in a losing effort, and they didn't even blame it on being sick. Way to show people how to compete.

    I bet it's just a sore throat from all that shrieking, and we all know she can't play a match without shrieking, so might as well withdraw?
     
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  25. heftylefty

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    No, but they took a lot of crap for it. If you think they didn't, you're only kidding yourself or not very honest.

    From legend Chris Evert in 2006:

    But feel free to continue to believe there isn't a double standard.
     
  26. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Post of the day.
     
  27. TMF

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    I agree that people should leave the players alone. They have the right to do business outside of their main profession. And no, there's no double standard since Maria is taking a lot of crap too. Just read some of the posters on this thread makes me puke.
     
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    You are joking right? Who in the media has called out Maria? There is a lot of excuse making. But she never been called out for not reaching her potential.

    Come on?!
     
  29. Russeljones

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    Maybe baby baby Fed is on the way..
     
  30. TMF

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    So whatever the media say count but what the fans say doesn't count ?
     
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    Referring to the OP:
    No.
    She wasn't even going to play Serena next.
    Just Silly.
     
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    Sharapova and Azarenka are really cheap. They should rot in hell.

    Wanting to beat up the whole WTA , but claiming injury the moment they have to face up to Serena.

    Even Wozniacki is better. Inspite of losing badly, she puts a brave face.
     
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    Actual yes. Because they have a big platform. Evert is a publisher of Tennis Magazine. She wrote that open letter in her magazine, not so message board.

    Why don't you just be honest and say, hey I don't like Serena, but there is a double standard. I can respect that.

    I'm not a Maria fan, but I have no issue with her making as much money as possible. But stop acting like she not getting a free pass for " under performing". I don't believe she under performing; rather she's max'd out her ability. Squeezing ever bit of talent out of herself. We are witnessing Peak Maria, at the height of her game.
     
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  34. DRII

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    stop being foolish!

    I'm not 'alibing' her numerous losses, I'm talking about that specific loss in Miami where Sharapova was handily out-playing Serena until she obviously got tired!
     
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    if you need further proof, just look at the next post of the foolish poster I responded to in the first place.
     
  36. TMF

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    I think we can finally conclude that Sharapova is the most hated player on this board.

    Henin use to be right at the top of the list but since she's retire her name is not mention as often. Sloane is beginning to move up the list at a rapid rate.
     
  37. TMF

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    Serena is more successful and a better tennis player, so there's no secret that she gets scrutinize than a lesser player like Maria.

    I'll say it again....I don't have a problem with Serena as a tennis player, I only don't like her bad behavior on court by threaten the player/line judge and verbal abuse the umpire, not gracious loser, etc.
     
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    We dont hate her for being attractive for many or for her earning more.

    It is pathetic for a top level player who gets so much out of a sport to have such unsportsmanlike conduct.
     
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    Wow...Do you know the meaning of the term double standard?

    I'll help you with an example:
    Player SW, who's currently the World's No. 1 has interest outside of tennis and tennis establishment arm up in arms.

    Player MS, who's currently the World's No. 2 has interest outside of tennis and the tennis establishment is silent.

    Does that seem fair to you?
     
  40. Tanya

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    Dear god....Did TMF really just try to claim Sharapova is the most hated player on this board? Really???

    Please, I'll ask--no, beg--again: don't quote him!
     
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    Typical Sharapova B.S, she also tried to dismiss Serena's destruction of her at the Olympics down to illness:

    Q. I was just wondering, were you affected by this illness at the Olympic Games in your final against Serena?
    MARIA SHARAPOVA: I started feeling it, feeling a little bit something the day before, but it wasn't as bad as it's been the last couple of days.

    http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=82134

    Pure farcical B.S. Though I suppose stress, anxiety, depression and a decades worth of humble pie shoved down her throat may make her queasy from time to time!
     
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    It doesn't matter if Serena is "better" (Serena was also better than Venus, yet Venus was constantly criticised by the media for off-court activities as well). Sharapova still has an obligation to find a way to win.

    Sharapova is a career grand slam winner. By any objective standard, she has to be regarded as a "great" player.

    If you are a great player, capable of winning every slam, and only lose consistently to one player....shouldn't you DEDICATE yourself 100% finding a way to overcome that obstacle to achieve further greatness. No distractions, no Sugarpova candy appearences...just concentrate totally on the tennis to beat all your rivals.

    If Serena was only losing consistently to one player (as she was for awhile in Henin), the media would blame her outside interests and tell her to drop them and concentrate on beating her rival. Maria, in the same situation, gets a free pass. It's completely a double standard. Maria is a champion, not some scrub. She shouldn't be excused for not being able to beat Serena. If the other two great champions of Serena's generation (Venus, Juju) could have respectable head to heads with Serena, Maria ought to be taken to task for not trying harder to find a solution.
     
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    Yes, a certain someone did claim that. Members of that nature have contributed to some of the worst, most offensive posts of any message board--most about Serena, with Nadal coming in second.
     
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    This thread is one of many examples of hating Maria, with the same names keep coming after her. Very cruel!
     
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    Any attempt Sharapova makes to lie about her health is pathetic, and shows she will do anything to change her shameful record against Serena. However, its a game of self deception as anyone with an honest mind knows back to back losses to Serena was the likely explanation for her less than believable "illness."
     
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    Agree with every sentence, every word, every syllable...
     
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    Wow, the posters are laying some big body shots to the image of Pottypova, she's not gonna be confused with Pete Sampras anytime soon(I refer to the match where he executed the Technicolor Yawn on the court, down match point, if memory serves, but sucked it up to win the match a few points later(though one can be in a hospital bed if the opponent obligingly double faults, lol).
     
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    We all know who the most hated on/controversial player on TT and is sure aint Maria. Its not Vika either who IMO gets even more than than Maria.
     
  49. sureshs

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    A beating by Serena is not good for anybody
     
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    I know Tanya !! TMF is on denial mode. Hilarious........:twisted:
     

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