*** Long Live The Radicals ***

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  1. adams_1

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    The FXP Rad Tour is a nice racquet indeed. May I ask what yours is strung with and what it weighed strung without overgrips etc?
     
  2. Mansewerz

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    It came with Wilson NXT tour 16. The string says "Demo not for resale" on it. Never knew there were demo strings like that. I've got no clue on the weight. Don't have access to a scale. Maybe in the future. Overgripped with Tourna.
     
  3. Dan007

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    There fixed #49
     
  4. adams_1

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    Ah, I see. I only ask because mine was what I would consider to be a little off-spec, but in the good way - around 8 grams heavier, I think.

    I'm still not sure whether it will be my main stick or not. I'm having trouble getting used to using a co-poly for the first time, which doesn't help. That isn't the fault of the frame, of course, it's a beauty.
     
  5. Mansewerz

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    I'm used to flexy frames, so this should be good. I'm very excited to play with it tomorrow morning (my play with it in a racquet ball court doesn't count :D)
     
  6. Ross K

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    M,

    I'd be v/interested to hear your opinions on the FP Rad Tour in general - and specially re serve power and movement, feel and maneuverability. It's one of those frames that I've been curious about for ages - (actually ever since I saw this guy playing amazingly well with one, though I'm sure he could have played brilliantly with all kinds of racquets.) Anyway, I've never managed to lay my hands on one... what's the verdict?

    Cheers

    R.

    BTW, Anyone else have a viewpoint on the the Flexpoint Rad Tour?
     
  7. Mansewerz

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    Well, I hit flat serves probably the best i've hit since summer or better. I dunno if it was the strings, racquet, or just me, but it was working. Very pleased with that. It felt lighter than the Fischer i'm used to (got a heatshrink sleeve full size on there).

    My backhand was iffy, but that's just me. Felt a good amount of pop (again, different strings, but I don't care, it was working). I didn't hit a huge amount of spin, but that's just me.

    Maneuverability felt fine and the racquet felt rather stable. I just need to get rid of my ntour and it's good to go :D
     
  8. PED

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    I've hit with the FXP Rad tour as well and had some issues with my BH too. My bh is also a little bit weaker too with my current stick: the Pres Pro and wonder if it has to do with the weight distribution on those sticks. My fh is great with both sticks but I've not been able to dial in my bh yet.
     
  9. vsdtrek

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    If you have a one-hander, it might be the grip shape. I have two LM MPs and noticed the same thing. The shape tends to work great for a continental grip, but once you try going more eastern it is harder to wrap the hand around and you get a less secure feel.

    I would add my name to the club but everytime I do that, I switch. :) I really do like the frame though!
     
  10. Mansewerz

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    Meh, my two hander needs work anyways. Not the racquet's fault :D
     
  11. Mansewerz

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    Oh, I forgot to mention that I didn't feel any bad vibrations on off center hits/shanks. Hopefully I never will.
     
  12. sk8ing

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    sign me up i love my MG radical MP ive tried loads of other racquets(prestiges exo3's pure drives etc.) nothing compares

    i use klip legend 16 mains syn gut crosses
     
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  14. Johnnywalker

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    My new stick! :D

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  15. Mansewerz

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    Nice, I thought it was a great stick when I demo'd it for like an hour. Not a surprise that I like the Radical tour, eh?
     
  16. speedblue88

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    Please add me to the Radical club. I have an original Trisys 260 "Bumblebee" from around 1993/1994.
     
  17. Mansewerz

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    Another hitting session w/ the Radical tour. I enjoyed the racquet a lot. Enough feel and maneuverability (probably because i'm used to a Fischer pro number one w/ a full size heat shrink sleeve), but it also felt pretty stable.
     
  18. klementine

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    I've heard rumors that the MG Radical Pro, with its string pattern and hoop shape, promotes string breakage. Any truth to this speculation?

    I would love to slap some lead and leather onto this one. Has anyone gotten any good results from modifying this frame?

    I play the Prestige mid, with lead and leather, but something about this stick (the MG radical pro) has me wanting to give it a try. The balance, static and swingweight seem perfect for customizing.

    I'm afraid if I demo, I might buy and if I buy, I might modify, and if I modify, I might join the Radicals.

    Actually I'm down right scared. I picked a racquet. Stuck with it, and like it. I think I'm just addicted to demoing racquets and modifying. Pretty good addiction considering the other options.. Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll.
     
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  19. Mansewerz

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    It's a great racquet, but if you're playing fine with your prestige, stick with it.
     
  20. klementine

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    What about the 'string' theory? Does it really promote breakage?
     
  21. radical pro joe

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    I use the Radical Pro and I'd say that strings do break a little faster but nothing unreasonable.
     
  22. Mansewerz

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    Not sure. My friend who I string for a lot hasn't really broken strings that much, except for when he broke the crosses which were Maxim touch, and he broke x-1. He's not unusually breaking strings though. I can ask him when he brings it over for restringing (probably tomorrow).

    Anyone know if the Radical tour and the Radical pro are from the same mold?
     
  23. klementine

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    I probably will do that. But I will demo this one along with the Prince exo rebel, Pure storm ltd. and Rdis 100 this week. I have a feeling that this will be the most enjoyable of the bunch.

    My current stick, is great in it's current form. But I'm looking for a more 'enjoyable' stick. I stopped playing tournaments (too busy). Now just recreational play.

    How is the spin potential on this baby? The MG Radical Pro. (knowing that technique and strings are more at work.. I stress potential)
     
  24. Mansewerz

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    I'm about a 3.5 maybe lower, and I don't play with a whole lot of spin, so I'm not really sure. When I played with it, I was even lower. The most recent outing with it was like 5 mins (a friend was demoing it). So I'm not quite sure, but I do know that the open pattern can't hurt. Another guy also told me that the Radical tour was easy to get spin with, so if they're the same mold, I don't see why not.
     
  25. klementine

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    Completely agree with your point on the play to win not with spin comment, but I'm mostly refering to spin in reference to 2nd serves. I don't like to put spin on my forehands/backhands unless my opponent gives me time to set-up my feet and position my body. I hit relatively flat when on the move which is 80-90% of points played. When I try to force topspin forehands on the run, it usaully ends up sailing on me or hitting the net.

    Now that the better part of life has caught up with me I'm just too busy to sign up for the local tournaments (don't know my NTRP, 80% of the time lose to 5.0's, but always beat the threes). I'm looking for a more comfortable, more enjoyable racquet. The flex, head size, balance and swingweight have me looking forward to my demo with the Radical Pro.
     
  26. Mansewerz

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    I do recall jcstennis talking about the radical pro's serving abilities in here. I'll check in a bit.
     
  27. klementine

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    Searched and found it. Thanks for the tip.
     
  28. PED

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    I've hit with the Rad Pro quite a few times and loved it. The spin production is INSANE. It really will put a smile on your face. I hit with topspin but am not a big string breaker so that was not an issue for me. I ended up going with the Prestige Pro as I wanted more weight and stablity but the Rad Pro is great so def give it a try.

    My coach used a Pres Mid then moved to a Rad Pro for a few weeks but gave it up because he was breaking 16g Poly every 90 minutes and he wanted more control. He's a BIG hitter with alotta spin and ended up going with the MG Prestige MP and he still gets a lot of action on the ball: from being on the receiving end, he's still deadly effective with the MP as compared with the Rad Pro.:twisted:
     
  29. Cey

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    I use the flexpoint radical mp. Great line of racquets. How do i add myself to this?
     
  30. Ross K

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    2 more MG Rad Pro Q's...

    . Just how stable and solid is the frame in ppl's opininions?

    . How is it for volleys and touch stuff coming in the net (droppers and lobs etc?)

    . Could ppl please define its feel (by which I mean like stiff, flexy, crisp, whatever.)

    Cheers

    R.
     
  31. Mansewerz

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    The last time I hit with it, it felt like it had ample (but not too much) power. Probably stiffish crisp, but just the right amount, not too much.
     
  32. dantespark33

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    hey mansewerz, did you find out if radical pro grommets will fit in the fxp radical tour?
     
  33. Mansewerz

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    Never did because I found that some TW competitors carry the Radical tour grommets. I wonder if prestige pro cap grommets will fit the Radical tour/pro
     
  34. STEROID

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    I always swore by the PD Cortex until I demoed the Rad Pro. If you demo, you WILL buy. As far as srting breakage, I would say nothing more than normal by any means. I play with Pro hurricane 18g in the mains and Bab. VS team gut 17g in crosses without any problems. I just picked up a second Rad Pro on sunday and will eventually get a third especially when I get back into leagues and tournrys!!! do yourself a favor and DEMO!!!!
     
  35. STEROID

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    Ross, why havent you demoed this thing yet? Or do you think it might cause anarchy in the babolat allience? (j/k) ok, answers to your questions:

    1. very stable and solid. not a hollow feeling you get the the Bab PDC. Not as heavy as the k90, but played very close.

    2. I had no problems going to the net and laying the smack down. because of the spin that this raquet can produce, drop shots are almost to easy. but what really shined in this catagory was the topspin lob!!! One word: Deadly! Make it two words: VERY DEADLY

    3. Now feel is very subjective. I would say very solid frame feel with no hollowness to it. Not a boardy feeling at all. Strokes felt extremely crisp and accurate. Hard to belive coming from a 100sq 16/19 but I demoed this side by side to the k90 and IMO and for my playing style (all court), the RAD PRO was the winner. DONT GET ME WRONG!!! the k90 was a great stick but I just played so much better and beat more players (even a few rated higher than me). One Last Thing.....


    GO DEMO!!!!
     
  36. PED

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    ^^^^Ross, I 2nd what Steroid said, it's much more stable and solid compared with a PD, especially one that is not the PDR version.
     
  37. klementine

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    Jctennis???

    How did your capped MG radical mids play...

    I think it would be a novel idea to buy this stick one grip size smaller.. add a heat shrink grip expander, leather and overgrip... CAP it with some lead at 3+9+12...

    JC??? Total weight?? Swingweight?? Balance???Playability??? Very curious over here...
     
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  38. Ross K

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    STEROID, PED,

    Well, everyone knows my racket-a-holic tendencies around these parts, :roll: so I don't mind admitting this frame has interested me for some time (along with a few others!) Secondly, I'm a small-scale collector/seller/trader anyhow. And thirdly, ppl also know, as if to a faithful and devoted wife, I seem to end up returning to the Babs all the same! :cool:

    Re demo-ing, unfortunately I live in the UK and our demo-ing "culture" is incredibly under-developed and it just isn't the easy, standard and common practice you refer to (Americans and Aussies etc wouldn't believe how lame it is. :shock: ) Therefore, without that option, like many here, I buy from a variety of outlets, contacts, etc, hence you appreciate my need to be VERY THOROUGH in my research. I'd also add that Rad Pro's cost a LOT of money here in the UK presently and have yet to start coming down very much in price and/or appearing much as used/ second-hand models.

    Finally, re my recent line of Q's and the Rad Pro, right now I think it all boils down to quite how much of a solid/stable/plow inducing/bullying power rod it is. You know, does it have something approaching that PWS big time solidness/plow/stability you get on the 6.1 series or the PT 630? Or is it just more a powerful "reasonably stable" frame, like, say, the PST and PDR?

    Anyway, no more Q's on this frame (I promise!)

    R.
     
  39. STEROID

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    more than the PD but slightly less than the k90. More controll than the PD as well
     
  40. Tennis16

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    Anybody have any feedback on the Flexpoint Radical MP ? Thinking of switching to that from the Pure Storm.
     
  41. Tennisguy777

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    got a question for you guys, I find the LM radical midplus too powerful on the forehand side. I over hit a lot but for my two-handed backhand it's great! I string at 62-64# full poly. How can I get control?
     
  42. STEROID

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    Use a two handed forehand!!!! LOL!!!!

    Just kidding bro, but that is a good question that I dont have an answer for.
     
  43. psp2

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    What's the version that's at the very bottom? I realize it's an older Twin Tube Radical Tour, but what is it called non-officially? I've seen names like "zebra" and other thrown around in this thread.

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  44. Ross K

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    Think I'm correct in saying it's not a zebra or bumblebee but the slightly later Radical Tour Twin Tube 1998 version, which I think some might abbreviate to the '98 Twin Tube (no animal nicknames!)... BTW, it;s the frame that some Rad connoisseurs (including the creator of this thread) consider the very best Rad ever.
     
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    Thanks, RK.... Do you know the year the yellow/gray/tan colored one was made? I actually have both versions and one plays very different than the other.

    Is this version the "zebra"?
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  46. Ronaldo

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    Ckout e b a y, this description for a great example of this stick, Head Liquidmetal Flexpoint Radical Pro with 4 5/8 grip
     
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    Please count me in. I have 3 Radicals in my closets now even though they are not my main sticks.

    Bumblebee and Agassi Limited Edition
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  48. Mansewerz

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    Were all of the radicals, other than the FXP tour and MG pro versions, 18x20?


    And klementine, I talked to my friend, and he said he had no abnormal breaking of strings near the tip.
     
  49. velkov

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    i think fxp is a letdown. lm and mg are much better !!
     
  50. xshilinx

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    My MG radicals mp just reached. =) stringing them up.

    shall order some grommets to cap them up.
     

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