*** Long Live The Radicals ***

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Doc Hollidae, May 30, 2007.

  1. frekcles

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    Cys19, you have to try out one of these old(er) Radicals to truly know what Doc is referring to....:D

    Someone is selling a Radical LE on the boards right now and another one is selling an OS zebra.
     
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  2. hrstrat57

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    doit

    The radical tour twin tube is one of the sweetest sticks made ever...IMHO. The 1998 yellow graphics are super cool too.

    If you don't want it, I am all over it.

    Lemme know
     
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  3. Doc Hollidae

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    All this talk is making me want to get some old 1995's and toss aside my LE's.......
     
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  4. Doc Hollidae

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    How many people plan on getting a Microgel or switching to one? The weights and swingweight are just too low for me to even consider them unfortunately.
     
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  5. HLM2

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    Yea, the microgel radical just seems too light, but the tour model looks interesting, except they had to make that 16x19 instead of the usual 18x20.
     
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  6. hrstrat57

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    Doc,

    Seriously, tt radical 630's are the bomb. My mixed doubles partner actually has 2 of the 3 frames from my old bag.

    She won't give em back to me and they are way too low powered for her.

    .....at least that is what I keep telling her:grin:

    Hoping to trade a mint i radical midplus to her and get one back soon......

    They pop up occasionally on the big site.....I think there is one up there now.

    qualifier.....the only radical oversize I have ever hit is the ti radical 107(have 2 of those)

    All my other comments refer to mid plus......

    BTW the i prestige I added to my bag this month is a real winner too. Plays almost the same as my L5 austrian i radical. I might do the amurray bumper modification and pull off the lead to emulate the setup on the i prestige......the i prestige is the only racquet in my bag without lead tape at 3 and 9 oclock and it is perfect.
     
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  7. Doc Hollidae

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    Oh I've played with them before. I had 2 Extra long one (1-1995, 1-1998), 2 oversized 1995, and 1 midplus 1995 during High School. To this day they're still my favorite racket, but these Limited Editions are serving me well.
     
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  8. hrstrat57

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    empty my bag?

    If I could find 3 brand new 1998 tt radical 630's I would probably put all my other sticks up for sale on the big site......

    They are that good.....

    I was a bit troubled thinking you hadn't experienced them thanks for setting me straight!

    Good thread!!!
     
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  9. Doc Hollidae

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    LOL. Remember who started this thread. I've hit with every radical made and nothing feels better than the old 1995/1998 Twin Tube Radical. These Limited Editions and the old Trisys 260 are close, but they don't have that same feel or softness. The one thing I always liked about the Twin Tube was it's flex and it really allowed you to whip through the ball with excellent control.
     
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  10. frekcles

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    Hey Doc,

    I have one 1995 OS Radical Tour.

    Interested?

    Wait, didn't I get this one from you awhile back? I'd have to check my records.

    BTW, I played with a 1995 midplus today and it feels sweet. Different feel than the Trisys. Both racquets will be fighting for a place in my bag.
     
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  11. giolp

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    just bought an almost new '98 Radical Tour MP through the big auction site, 50 € shipping included

    I guess I made a pretty good deal, I have a substitute for a Wilson NBlade at less than 1/3 of the price, don't I?

    ;)
     
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  12. Doc Hollidae

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    Haven't hit with the Nblade so I can't say, but the static weight will be higher and it'll be more stable. A more likely comparison to your Nblade would probably be the newer radicals, Ti. Radical - Present. Keep in mind the first two Radical models hit nothing like the contemporary ones.
     
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  13. Doc Hollidae

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    No you didn't get them from me. The ones I played with in HS are gone. When I left for college my parents gave them to my brother in attempt to get him to play tennis. He pretty much destroyed them, cracking one and messing up another, so all I have left is one 1995 OS XL.

    Thanks for the offer, but I know if I get one the LE's will become the neglected step-children and I'll be looking for 1-2 more 95's. I will keep you in mind if I change my mind though.
     
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  14. giolp

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    Doc Hollidae,
    I was mainly referring to flex rating, head size and string pattern, which are the same.
    The higher static weight will be better for me.
    what about the Rad Tour 98 balance and manoeuvrability?
     
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  15. Doc Hollidae

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    The balance I can't remember, the manuverability will most likely be a little more sluggish than the NBlade. It'll mostly be a weight issue, but once you get used to the weight it's not so bad. It's definitely more of a baseliner racket imo, when playing in doubles at times it can be tough to manuver during quick net exchanges.
     
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  16. cys19

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    Aren't there more enthusiasts here? C'mon.
     
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  17. giolp

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    Doc Hollidae,
    I guess the weight won't be an issue for me, as I use to play with a PC600, which is a bit heavier.
    anyway, I will post my impressions once I get the racquet and I have the chance to play with it
     
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  18. Viper

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    I am so tempted to save up for the new Microgel Radical OS. The Liquidmetal OS is one of my favorite rackets of all time.
     
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  19. Doc Hollidae

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    Welcome Viper,
    What do you like about the LM radical?
     
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  20. hrstrat57

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    NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Doc, I have a trisys OS... is it a little head heavy, even with leather grip(replaced the worn out black with yellow print grip), overgrip, and ProHTour 15L?...
    I'm sure it's original Austria, it has a serial number...
    Sweet stick, very solid feel(super), not playing with it though, kind of a collector's item...
    My thoughts are these raqs were designed for ANDRE as stock, that's why it's head heavy... Lead tape may not be so popular by that time... Just my thoughts...
    Please clarify... Thanks...
     
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  22. Doc Hollidae

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    I don't think Agassi played with the racket completely stock. His rackets were specially made for him and him alone I believe. I do believe he used the original Trisys 260, but modded to his preferences. There's various posts about his actual racket if you want to do a search. I believe Andre played with with a 5pt head light balance however. One of the posters here acquired one of his rackets and measured the exact specs.
     
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  23. theRadical

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    Ive got two FXP Radical tours. Count me in!

    I passionately love them
     
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  24. TheShaun

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    i just ordered my first "real" tennis racket from tw. it's a lm radical mp. i can't wait to use it. if i'm in love, i'll probably order a couple more. but i have to wait till the end of the month to pick it up. i had it shipped to a friends house in the US to avoid extra shipping and duty costs.
     
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  25. Viper

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    I'm not a big fan of the feel. But what it lacks in feel it excels everywhere else. Great power, control, and excellent on volleys.
     
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  26. Doc Hollidae

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    If the feel is the only thing bothering you and you can handle the extra weight, the older radicals and the limited edition play the same, but with way more feel and stability.
     
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    I have the iRad, only racquet I've ever played with and am seriously considering the LE, based largely on what people have said in posts like this.
     
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  28. jeffreyfranz

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    Count me in. Originally with the "i Radical" and now with the Agassi Ltd. version, one of the sweetest playing racquets ever. :smile:
     
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  29. frekcles

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    Not a problem. It's available (in storage) should you change your mind.

    In the meantime, I'm enjoying the midplus version of the zebra. Nice heft, swingweight, very stable on volleys, groundstrokes. I'm still doing an extended play test/comparison of the zebra mp and the Trisys 260 mp.
     
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  30. GRANITECHIEF

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    I'm in too, playing with my 5th generation of Radical Midplus.
     
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  31. Doc Hollidae

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    If you can't get your hands on an old school radical (the two models before the Ti.) the LE is the closest thing to them. If you like the modern radicals and can handle an extra ounce of static weight the LE is for you.

    When playing with the LE compared to the Ti.-FXP it's like "anything you can do I can do better."
     
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  32. boatsign

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    Okay you can include an old-school radical guy. I'm a 55-year-old doubles player on clay, 5' 8.5" tall, about 4.0 level.

    In my search for a secret weapon, I got an Agassi Limited Edition, and went on to obtain several used old oversize radicals. Trisys 260's and Twin Tubes.

    A couple are set up at 364 gm and 350 swingweight, and
    a couple are set up at 350 gm and 344 swingweight.

    Wilson Hyperlast strings at both weights and Luxilon Big Banger at both weights.

    If you can give me any tips on developing a penetrating baseline game for competing in some local tournaments, I'd be thrilled.

    Charlie
     
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  33. ThomasH

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    The LM radical is by far my favourite racquet. I enjoy the feel of it, but it is to light for me so I'm going to try the new microgel radical pro
     
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  34. Doc Hollidae

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    Be aware that the balance and string pattern will also be completely different from the LM Radical. If you're looking for something similar, but with more weight, the Limited Edition will be a better choice than the Tour or Pro version of the newer radicals.
     
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  35. Viper

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    We are so radical.
     
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  36. cys19

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    I hated the stock strings when I first began playing. I don't know if I'll like them now, but I've improved a lot quicker since I strung it with my friend's hybrid setup that maximized control and feel.
     
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  37. Doc Hollidae

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    What's your set up cys?
     
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  38. kaztennis

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    I have three Flexpoint Radical Tour, my main racquet and
    two Agassi Limited Edition racquets.
    My main racquet is the tour but believe it or not, before the LE came out, after demoing more than 20 racquets last spring-summer('06), I chose between nBlade98 and the FXP Radical Tour. Ended up with the Tour but afterwards, I did buy one nBlade which I sold to my friend. Both of them are very comfortable to the arm and the feel is excellent. And just recently, I hurt my arm and got a nBlade again as it's about 1oz? lighter than the tour.(yes, could have bought the FXP Radical midplus but nBlade was cheaper and is a good racquet!)
     
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  39. mucat

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    Just got my LM Rad OS, I strung it at 55lbs.

    I have both TI Rad OS @59lbs and I Rad OS @58lbs. I notice the LM is way more flexible than the TI or I, probably that's why the lower tension range for the LM. How's the power level of the LM Rad compare to the TI and the I?
     
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  40. drakulie

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    Strung up, and hit with my old trisys radical 260 mid plus the other day. That frame is still sweet.
     
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  41. TheOrangeRacquet

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    I currently own 2 LM radicals and 2 FXP radicals. Count me in! All strung with BB Alu rough with the LM's at 58 and FXP's at 60. For some reason i need to string the FXP's higher they feel better. I just got a demo of the new microgel today. Havent used it yet, but that low stiffness makes me worry. So which classic radicals are the best? Im thinking of buying one for the heck of it.
     
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  42. Doc Hollidae

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    How'd you like it compared to your K90 and PS6.0?
     
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  43. Doc Hollidae

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    IMO the best classic Radical was the 95/98 Radical Twin Tube. The Trisys 260 and the Limited Edition Radical are both great rackets as well, but the feeling of the Twin Tube added a little more feel imo. Plus the zebra graphics were one of a kind.

    Dammit, Frekcles I think I might be hitting you up pretty soon. LOL.
     
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  44. frekcles

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    Better hurry before someone beats you to the zebra.:D
     
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  45. Doc Hollidae

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    How much you asking for?
     
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  46. boatsign

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    Two questions on the old radicals.

    1) I have a trisys 260 OS radical tour which (inside the bag) says "designed in austria, made in china". When do you think that was made, and what kind of graphite composition does it have, compared to the old ones?

    2) I have a twin tube OS (with new graphics) that has printed on it "swing speed style L5". This is certainly not the grip size, which is 4 3/8. What are the different swing speed styles and how do they compare?

    Thanks, Charlie
     
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  47. Doc Hollidae

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    Don't know much about your first question.

    For swing speeds. L6 was the most flexible I believe and S10 was the stiffest. If you go to the Head website it tells you. I believe the Prestige at the time was the only racket with more flex.
     
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  48. vsbabolat

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    I seem to remember HEAD did a outsource SMU of the Radical 260 Oversize for department stores in 1999 and 2000. The original Radical that were made in Austria from 1993 to 1995 were a high modulus graphite and high modulus Twaron composite. The outsourced made in China racquets were just graphite.
     
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  49. frekcles

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    Doc, contact me off list - freckles_007@hotmail.com

    vsbabolat, so the SMU would say Made in China on them instead of Made in Austria?
     
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  50. drakulie

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    I very much enjoyed stringing it up and hitting with it>>> it had been a long time. Nice solid feel on all the strokes, good power from baseline, excellent control. Solid and stable at net. Easily generate spin, or flat shots. Stiff feel at contact with excellent feedback to your hand.

    I am going to try and find another one so I have two. I'll probably hit with it again today if the weather permits.
     

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