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  1. Rattler

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    Papa is from Edmond, and he has close family ties, members of his family always traveled with him, no surprise he chose and Oklahoma school...surprised he didn't choose Okalhoma, but well, take a guess why.

    Anyway, looking forward to see how this current Texas squad will do.
     
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    Won 7-0 vs. SMU today, played Indoors !

    Singles (Order of finish: 5,1,2*,4,3,6)
    1. #75 Soren Hess-Olsen (Texas) def. #73 Arturs Kazijevs (SMU) 6-1, 6-1
    2. #35 Lloyd Glasspool (Texas) def. Alex Sanders (SMU) 6-3, 6-2
    3. #24 George Goldhoff (Texas) def. Mischa Nowicki (SMU) 6-2, 6-4
    4. Adrien Berkowicz (Texas) def. Nate Lammons (SMU) 6-1, 6-3
    5. Nick Naumann (Texas) def. Julio Olaya (SMU) 6-0, 6-3
    6. David Holiner (Texas) def. Arkidjas Slobodkins (SMU) 6-3, 4-6, 6-3
     
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    The sky is the limit for this team. Or should I say the Center is the limit for this team.
     
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    They play against Arkansas tomorrow indoors again, I might try and check it out.
     
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    I think I will head up to Austin and check out the match vs Alabama on the 1st of February. I would also like to goto the FSU match and the Oklahoma one if I can make it.
     
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    Swept Rice and Arkansas this weekend, here are today's scores:


    Singles (Order of finish: 4, 6, 2*, 1, 3, 5)
    1. No. 75 Søren Hess-Olsen (Texas) def. Jovan Parlic (Arkansas) 6-1, 6-2
    2. No. 35 Lloyd Glasspool (Texas) def. Mike Nott (Arkansas) 6-2, 6-1
    3. Adrien Berkowicz (Texas) def. Hall Fess (Arkansas)6-1, 6-3
    4. Nick Naumann (Texas) def. Santiago Munoz (Arkansas) 6-1, 6-0
    5. David Holiner (Texas) def. Christian Lee (Arkansas) 6-2, 6-4
    6. Clement Homs (Texas) def. Johan den Toom (Arkansas) 6-2, 6-0
     
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    Rice gave LSU everything they could handle today and was in winning position before Simpson fought back. The Longhorns demolished that same Rice team. This is looking like a top 10 team.
     
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    Beatdown of Vandy today. Would have likely been 6-1 if played out.
     
  9. Vicious Vik

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    BOOOM! Take that Vandy Candy . That was too easy. Goldhoff is a real player, do you see this Harrison Adams? You could have been part of a real team instead of that collection of guys with tennis rackets in that backwater town.
     
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    and the bandwagon fan is back on now that UT looks good so far, imagine that.
     
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    I had my angry post all ready as this team was again going to fail to make the final 16 of a major event. But what a great comeback from the freshman. This match still should not have been this close.

    In Houston there will be a lot of Horns. I'm hoping that a crowd can pull the team through maybe an upset.
     
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    Horns edge Wake Forest 4-3. Looking at WF's roster, it's huge (16) , how do they carry that many guys ? Good wins for WF at #3 and #4 singles, young American players. In the end it came down to Clement Homs at #6 who pulled it out in a third set TB.

    RESULTS
    Singles
    1. #75 Soren Hess-Olesen (TEX) def. #20 Romain Bogaerts (WFU) 6-2, 6-3
    2. #59 Adam Lee (WFU) def. #35 Lloyd Glasspool (TEX) 6-4, 6-3
    3. Max Kan (WFU) def. #24 George Goldhoff (TEX) 6-4, 6-4
    4. Jon Ho (WFU) def. Adrien Berkowicz (TEX) 4-6, 6-2, 6-4
    5. Nick Naumann (TEX) def. Pedro Dumont (WFU) 6-5 (7-2), 6-1
    6. Clement Homs (TEX) def. Aws Laaribi (WFU) 2-6, 6-4, 6-5 (7-3)

    Doubles
    1. #5 Soren Hess-Olesen/Lloyd Glasspool (TEX) def. #30 Adam Lee/Pedro Dumont (WFU) 6-5 (7-2)
    2. Max Kan/Romain Bogaerts (WFU) vs. Nick Naumann/David Holiner (TEX) 5-4, unfinished
    3. #55 George Goldhoff/Jacoby Lewis (TEX) def. Aws Laaribi/Anthony Delcore (WFU) 6-3
     
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    I'm looking forward to seeing the Longhorns in person Saturday vs Alabama and was glad to see them win yesterday. SHO played great to dispatch Bogaerts like that
     
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    Can you boo Center for me?
     
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    After Texas made it through to the final 16?
     
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    Vicious vik,

    You really just have no idea about the papa situation considering you don't know that the only reason he is going to school is because the usta was dropping their support of him. Papas family wanted him close to home which is why everyone thought he was going to be at oklahoma, including roddick, but papa and his family didn't care much for roddick and Tulsa had a lot of money-which the papa family needs so they were able to offer him a lot.

    Next, I still don't understand the big vendetta against center. Remember that he is a big part of getting goldhoff and berkowicz to texas. It just seems like of texas isn't successful this seasons, according to your standards, then you will blame center, and if they are successful then you will say something like the team overcame centers bad influence.

    Lastly, I would still like to hear about your ties to Sudanwa Sitaram.

    Good to see that you are supporting texas. Just unfortunate that you have to talk so negatively about the team when they are down, even now you say you don't cheer for losers, but when the team does well you are all for us. Let me know when you are at the next dual match.
     
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    I do suport Texas. I think as a whole athletic department the school has gone down recently . We are TEXAS. There is too much cushiness in the department now. Coaches are getting too comfortable. It was good to see Mack get axed at last. This is a problem with all of our sports recently with the maybe exception of volleyball.

    I will admit I like the way the team looks this year so far. Maybe Center has finally got some fire back. The last few years it looked like he was phoning it in and just doing the best with what he had and not going for the best. Maybe some of my posts on here gave him a kick up the rear which is really my intent. I want the team to do well. I am not saying things in here to slam the players or coaches, I want them to be the best that they can be.

    Sudanwa is in my extended family through marriage and I have known him for quite some time. I'm a little upset he isn;t playing so much this year but what is best for TEXAS must be done.

    I may go to some matches this year. I am looking at March 7th maybe.
     
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    Vicious vik,

    I get the we are texas stuff and holding the school to a high standard but only a few programs in the country are as consistent texas women's volleyball or mens swimming. Just understand that legitimately holding programs to that standard every year borders on the absurd. If you do that you would be firing basically every coach at texas except jerrit Elliot and Eddie Reese. Though I do agree that parts of the athletic department are too cushy but, even though I think texas is the best place to be, we generally disagree on how recruiting works in the sense that I think recruiting is complex and difficult and there are a variety of things that nobody could overcome when recruiting-and center has done a good job with it as well as with the rest of the program

    I honestly don't think anything that you have said on here has had any influence on coach center. The guy always has fire and if there is anyone that's disappointed in recent years it's him-I doubt you've been inspiring him on here. But to say he's mailing it isnt even a legitimate statement. He's going after the best guys all the time. Sometimes those kids don't want to come here, sometimes things don't work out as well as planned here-like some kids take a little longer to find their best form and sometimes people aren't what you expect. The years you say center was mailing it in were years he was expecting to have two guys that he just didn't have when Andersen and Mladenov were gone, that's just one factor that is fairly substantial.

    Just so you know, saying stuff like I feel like a rice fan, Soren's easy draw, where was Holiner and Camillones play during the team season, this team has past us as a program, or it's embarrassing we are ranked below this team/lost to this team doesn't come off as tough love it just comes off as condescending and complaining. Now you are positive now that the team is winning and you show some funny hatred of Harrison Adams and talk upbeat about berkowicz and goldhoff-which is great. Overall I get that you are a passionate fan but if you are truly here to have a discussion then I'll tell you that a lot of the times a programs success can be cyclical, at times. All the bad things that happened over the past few years really sucked at times but it's only going to make kids still on the team and the coaches better as they learn from it and they can teach the new kids. It's all a process man, I just think you really went overboard at times, like calling for an overhaul of the program a year after the best regular season of all time. Good to see you say you actually support the team because most of the time it looks like you just want to talk badly about them.

    Sorry this has been long, but im pretty close with Sudanwa too... Maybe we could all go out for lunch soon
     
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    VV would say, if you're not first you're last.
     
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    Don't know if you guys saw this, but it's a short history of Penick-Allison tennis center and an announcement that a new tennis center will be built over by the intramural courts. They are also asking for donations...seems like this should come out of the medical schools budget !

    http://texassports.com/news/2014/1/29/foundation_0129144937.aspx
     
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    Hahah andfor. Ya he would. The competitive nature in me likes to operate like that too. Like I said, the only thing I disagree with vv on is the success of center and the job he's done and the ins and outs of recruiting. I generally don't disagree with his frustration of the team results at times, even though I think sometimes the way he talks about players and the team is disrespectful. But it's good that everyone is pumped about this team because they look pretty good.
     
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    He you heard Oklahoma's coach speak/scream at his players?

    Center is a girl scout compared to John.
     
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    Rattler,

    First off vicious vik isn't the coach. Second you are out of your mind and have no idea about the texas team if you don't think center gets mad and yells at the team. Coaches all do it their own way especially during the match. Coaches like boland, Peter smith, knoll, Siegel, just to randomly name some randomly dont get super angry and frustrated on the court while coaches like Roditi, roddick, dancer, winterbotham/woodruff, McKinley can be seen being visibly and vocally really loud and frustrated. All these coaches have had their relative successes and coach at big programs.

    To answer your question tho yes I have seen It happen and I don't think that makes center a Girl Scout just because he doesn't do that in public like roddick will at times. I'm not saying one way is better but clearly both ways have been used and both are successful.
     
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    Woa, calm down dude.....I never for a second thought that VV was the coach, I know Mike Center.

    I also know the bulk of the coaches you name dropped, be careful and watch your step, I don't want you to trip on any of those names there.

    Roddick is by far one of the worst at unleashing an obscenity laced tirade at his players...just ask any other coach or umpire.

    I was trying to make a point, obviously it flew right over your head, so much so that you think I'm out of my mind. How nice for you.

    You must be a prize, how proud your parents must be?

    Whatever, take your pointed little head, pat yourself on the back assuring yourself that your always right, and never misunderstand anything......hurry along now and leave the big people talk to the adults.
     
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    Hahah I know the coaches too man. Not name dropping. My bad though because, I see what happened in my original comment. I didn't switch back and make it clear that I sometimes don't like the vv talks about the players, not about how center talks about them. And then when you wrote the comment about roddick, I assumed you were putting him in the same context as what vv for my discussion because that's who I was talking about.

    Ya I agree, roddick is tough on those kids, not debatable.

    I do like the comments about being a prize, my parents being proud, and me needing to run along, treating the situation as if I'm a child and you are an adult. How creative of you!
     
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    I don't think it's a big deal to name drop on here. Especially if you aren't saying anything very inflammatory. Everyone knows what those coaches like to do and not do.
     
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    I agree with that. At least when it comes to a coach's behavior. Obviously a little different of someone is claiming to have inside knowledge of the team through a player or a coach
     
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    Well, to my defense, in your initial post I though you were being a typical message board blow-hard.

    Please never confuse me with Vicious Vik, one crazed Longhorn is enough.


    Thanks for the clarification, it's all good dude.
     
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    In that case, why did you not have another try at making your point (that's what the "adults" you refer to would do), instead of wasting a whole post with no explanation?
     
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    Bama tomorrow. Should be alright in this one. Some tricky players at the top, not too sure about their depth. Hopefully we take care of this one and get out of the funk we were in against wake! Hook 'em!
     
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    It'll be a good match. Alabama can hang for a while but I think Texas is too deep for Alabama to cause an upset.
     
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    Here we go again,

    1st off, the point is easily understood as originally written, even with the type-o. So no explanation needed, I'll let you go back on an adventure and re-read it....won't that be fun.

    Perhaps it is too difficult for you to wrap your noodle around...if that is so, well then I don't know how to respond. Seems to me, if that is true, that speaks more about you and your limited abilities than my ability to convey a point....did I lose you? A circular argument can at times seems hard to follow....I hope your still here.

    2nd, I can only assume you didn't read the rest of the thread to see that ChadHill and I are fine, the matter is fully resolved...But thanks for gallantly coming to ChadHill's rescue, even though he clearly demonstrated that he didn't need your assistance.

    BTW Mr. Reading Comprehension, I was only defending myself, sorry you wouldn't/couldn't see that aspect. It is clear I didn't attack anyone, but thanks for trying to pile on.

    Please read the following with an imaginary scolding teacher voice, condescending to her pupil (I chose a female voice because nothing condecends better than a female in authority)..."Sometimes people can disagree, argue and still come to an understanding without going into an all out belligerent flamefest."

    In other words, butt out, mind your own business, or whatever other quant saying you like that lets you know you poked your nose where it didn't belong.
     
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    Clark likes to remind all of us every once in a while that he is indeed the smartest person on this forum.
     
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    Actually, I like to remind others that there are ways to have constructive discussions on a public forum. Venting and emoting are not examples, alas. If someone thinks someone else missed their point, then they could re-phrase their point.
     
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    Texas takes doubles point. Some pretty bad errors from O'Shaughnessey in the tiebreak ended up costing Alabama.
     
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    Did they really not play out the tiebreak at #1 dubs? Score shows 5-5 (4-6) susp. That saved everyone a whole 15 seconds of time.
     
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    Yes the Texas guys basically ran off the court as soon as #2 clinched. The Bama assistant came over and signaled its over to his guys. They didht look too miffed either.
     
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    Looks like Texas is giving Alabama a jolly butt kicking
     
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    They stopped play after 4. That was like an hour and a half. Large crowd confused by the sudden stop and left wanting more.
     
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    Clemson, can you give an update by individuals on how they are playing? I don't live in Austin anymore but would love to hear how these players are progressing…. One thing that is still puzzling is David Holiner. He's had some pretty nice wins in his career but i can't understand why he can't stay consistent.
     
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    The coaches must have agreed to stop at 4 since the experimental rules say to play out except during the Indoor Tournament Matches
     
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    Absolutely. Will do so when I get home.
     
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    Holiner Killin' it out there
     
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    Texas rising! They're getting a good team together again.
     
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    texas did look good
     
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    why did it take you so long to report on the match? are you actually going to these or getting info from others?
     
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    Texas has a nice facility which is right in the heart of their campus. Football and basketball can be scene in the distance (lots of Kansas fans milling about today waiting for basketball some came and checked out men's college tennis since their school does not have a men's team).
    The tennis courts are laid out into two sets of 3 which you can go back and worth and watch.


    Doubles was very tight today and Alabama could have easily taken it, but Becker did not play his best on court 2 and gave Texas a few free points. Soren had a letdown of his own on court one during court 1s doubles tiebreak which almost gave Bama the win their (they stopped at 6-4 Bama up). Court 3 was the difference as Texas was able to stave off a late Alabama rally.

    Singles:

    1: Soren Hess-Olesen led Daniil Proskura 6-4 1-2
    I know they are twins but it's insane how similar Soren is to Esben. They look very much the same and have the same on court mannerisms (which is always kinda sulky never really getting that positive). He plays a bit more controlled than Esben and does not go for as many reckless winners which probably explains his more consistent resume. Proskura likes to play aggressive and goes for close to line ***** with his lefty forehand. SHO kept Proskura off balance and Proskura ended up making quite a few bad looking errors and made some poor on court decisions for much of the 1st set. This match was probably headed Olesen's way when it was stopped unceremoniously.

    2: Lloyd Glasspool def Becker O'Shaughnessey 6-3 6-2
    I enjoyed watching this match. Glasspool is a good player to watch play. Has a big streamline serve which he moves around the box well. Hits more aces than many other college players do because of this. He is a first strike player and likes to take control early. He does not play reckless though as some players of this style tend to do. He hits with a lot of power, much of it flat and efficient. He can also come to the net at times. He had Becker uncomfortable all match and this one never looked like it was going the way of the Crimson Tide. I had a video of Glasspool closing out the match I will upload.

    3. George Goldhoff led Nikko Madregallejo 6-4 3-1
    These two played a very similar style but Goldhoff had more firepower overall. Scrappy player who likes to move a lot around the court and can hit shots from everywhere. I didn't see a ton of this match but it looked like Goldhoff was pretty much in control.

    4: Adrien Berkowicz def Saxon Buehning 6-1 6-1
    Berkowicz is such a weird player, it's like you want to keep watching. He has aesthetically awful looking movement but functionally it's not bad. he appears to be lanky and unathletic and yet you see winners flying by the other player. His lank and range allows for him to re-direct shots to any part of the court Buehning really had no chance in this match.

    5: Nicolas Naumann def Stuart Kenyon 6-1 6-1
    I didn't watch much of this except at the end. Naumann is pretty good at hitting shots inside the baseline and from awkward positions. Kenyon has a funky wind up and way of hitting his forehand, something Naumann was able to pick apart.

    6: David Holiner led Andrew Goodwin 6-4 4-1
    I see a couple comments above about Holiner but this was actually the match I saw the least of.I know Holiner was down 4-2 in the beginning and then dominated from there on out. The only thing I gleamed from Holiner is that he appeared to be coming to net quite a bit.


    I wish the match had been played out. It was over in less than 2 hours and there were still a decent a amount of fans left at the end who didn't look like a crowd begging for it to end on the contrary I heard a few comments about it being quick. (of course this had a lot to do with Texas walloping the Tide). I enjoyed it, looking forward to going back for some other matches and seeing how they look against other opponents.
     
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    since the match was so short I checked out the campus and Austin and then the salt lick. I'm sorry, I should have run to a computer somewhere to report immediately.
     
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    We are all going to withhold your paycheck because of that, and you owe Vik double.
     
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    I really should be getting paid for this. If I was I would do it even more in depth and more video.

    just kidding of course, slightly.
     

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