Longhorn Tennis

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  1. ClarkC

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    Sounds like two rebuilding teams had a close match. After graduating Ed Corrie and Kellen Damico, and having Jean Andersen turn pro, there is hardly any doubt that Texas would be considered a rebuilding team, with no seniors on the roster.
     
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    You do realize that A&M is ranked 11th in the country ?
     
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    Can I haz a win vs Ohio State? Kthanxbi
     
  4. Vicious Vik

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    Pretty good tournament for Texas. Lost to a great Buckeye tam then killed A&M and Auburn. I wish Hess-Olesen could have finished off Mies.
     
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    Nice to see UT rebound and beat A&M a few days after losing to them in Houston, the Auburn match was pretty tough, I think. Still no Ben Chen, wonder if he's recovering...
     
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    Soren Hess-Olesen deserves some love. I don't care if he's a 20 something freshman, the dude has been awesome so far.
     
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    That's such bull. That's like saying why would a U.S. freshman want to go to a program where he could be beat out by BlueChips and 5stars the following years? You can either beat the competition or you can't. Is Hess-sorenson undefeated and #1 in the country?
     
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    I guess a cowardly freshman better not go somewhere that has juniors and seniors on the roster, in that case.
     
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    Next thing you know Junior College recruiting will be unfair.
     
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    The ones who are ruffled are the anti-foreigners. I like the system the way it is, you don't and it's not changing.
     
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    We will see in a couple of years if Olesen is truly a freshman in eligibility. I doubt it. They can list a player as a freshman one year, a senior the next; or they can list a player as a freshman, then a sophomore, then they are gone mysteriously. We used to have guys show up at 21 and play through age 25. Those days are over.

    This point has been made numerous times, but I guess we can make it once a month or so just as a reminder.
     
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    The accuracy you can't produce is naming a 21 year old freshman, show he has 4 years of eligibility and if he does explain his circumstances ("workaround") as they are are also understood and approved by the NCAA.

    Read ClarkC's last post.
     
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    1 Freshman does not make a sample group. No matter how long he's there you still won't be able to explain his circumstances. In the end you'll be the one without facts and lack accuracy.

    You may want to read Clark's post again one more time.
     
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    Wow, UT loses to San Diego and now faces Florida State and then USC on Wednesday, it could get rough. One good thing is that Chen is back and playing well.
     
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    I have been pleased with the team's progress recently. Hosting a regional is likely.
     
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    Is Lloyd still out? I think he had some injury from a match a few wks ago. Hopefully he's ready to play soon as he was starting to make some good progress.
     
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    I know he's not a Longhorn, but anyone know what's up with Connor Pollack ? I was surprised to hear the news.
     
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    Some nasty allegations, easy to find in a google search. Probably not the right topic to go onto on these boards.
     
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    Downward spiral lately will lead to not hosting a regional and not making the NCAA final 16. When was the last time that happened?

    Very young team, as are Baylor and Texas A&M. But Oklahoma also has almost everybody back next year. Not sure when Texas will win the Big 12 again.
     
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    Texas will be much better next yr. Should be a 3rd kid joining.. maybe Spring?? If he does, they'll be better next yr.
     
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    Blue Chip Harrison Adams has just committed to Texas.
     
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    Do you have a link re Harrison Adams to Texas?
     
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    These days how to athletes announce to family and friends what school they have committed to? Via facebook of course.

    But you may have to be a facebook friend to see it. ;)
     
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    Facebook? That was so 2011. He needs to be tweeting that stuff.
     
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    no worries. he tweeted it as well.
     
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    Watched Texas Ex Josh Zavala get his head handed to him this afternoon by Polansky - Watching the warmups you would have thought JZ was going to blow Polansky off the court - didn't happen and it wasn't even close.
     
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    Some guys only win the warm-up
     
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    Watched literally hundred of pro matches in person and almost the same amount of qualifying matches. Seen this phenomena often. Even more so watching a player who appears hot and like the next big thing in the qualies. Gets to the main draw first round and get routinely beaten by a low ranked unseeded player.

    As the incremental yet subtle levels of skill and confidence improve in tennis, it makes for executing the underdogs game all the more difficult.
     
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    Some high drama last night in Austin, not the best display of tennis thought. Texas clinched the doubles point with an extraordinary comeback by Camilone and Hollander over Ore & Winthrow.

    The Longhorns had the Dual in the palm of their hands, and then it flipped. Sitaram, who I was most impressed with because, competed very smartly...hitting heavy spin and variety which frustrated Colin Hoover for the entir first set. Sitaram trailed 1-4 in the 2nd set and pushed it to a tiebreak, in which he had a match point before Hoover shoved the match into a final set. All with Sitaram visibly limping for the entire 2nd set.

    With two matches remaining Sitaram lost the final set and A&M leveled the Dual at 3 points all...all attention turned to the Chen Angus match. With Chen down a break at 3-5 in the final set. Chen broke Angus and got back on serve as the entire crowd filled the stands around his court.

    Chen broke again an brought ithe final set to 5 all, you could almost see Angus' thoughts of " I was up 5-2 in this match and now it's 5-5 all. Chen went up 6-5 at the changeover and Angus looked puzzled and like he was beginning to crack. angus saved on match and brought the final game to duece, but Chen earned another match point and that one proved to be all he would need.

    Tough loss for A&M with their last BIG 12 conference meeting with in the rivalry. (unless of course they meet again in the BIG 12 Championships in 2 weeks). In many ways A&M's team was playing bettr tennis. And Ore after he lost the first set in #1 Singles he looked for every opportunity to smack that big lefty forehand, but he was going for a little too much and many of them connected with the back fence rather than the court.

    Saw Ryan Harrison in the stands along with a lot of top level juniors form Newk's. Future Longhorn Harrison Adams was also in attendance.
     
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    unbelievable. Lose to a sorry Texas Tech team. How can you lose 4 singles matches to Texas Tech?
    I hate having to be reliant of these stupid live stats when match is on the line
     
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    I thought the big win over A&M with the great Chen moment would catapult the team too a ahigher level. But rather it has sunk them. Disappointing.
     
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    It might change. Things change in different ways for different reasons.

    As a UT alum, many of us are tired of LOTS of things going on regarding athletics on the 40 acres. Checks stop flowing in, programs are cut.

    In the mean time, UT tennis is dead to me & virtually all parents of 4 & 5 star kids in central texas. The tennis camps look like a day care for kids who ride the short bus, & all you hear at Pennik Allison during matches these days are crickets.

    hound <---loves most things foreign (including family members), but wants to cap it to ONE non-american per team. Recruiting a 21 y/o freshman is beyond ridiculous.
     
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    I posted previously that the new age limit and eligibility restrictions went into effect in August of 2011. The other day I read that they don't go into effect until August of 2012. Not sure what the true story is. But, at the very latest, this coming season will see some differences in terms of lost eligibility for older newcomers, domestic or foreign.
     
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    Hook`em Horns
     
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    Eligibility changes don't start till this year 2012, that is if they can manage/track all the foreign education systems. At least for those with U.S. juniors, hope is there are less 20+ year old freshman coming in, there are plenty on this year's rosters.
     
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    They've got six American kids on the team, and five of them are from Texas ? That's pretty good for a top 20 program.
     
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    Well, if misery loves company, you can take some solace in the fact that BCS tennis scholarships are virtually non-existent for all 4-stars.......it's not just a central Texas thing
     
  44. Clemson_tennis

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    Not to mention 3 Texans coming in next year
     
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    More mis-information regarding international student athletes. Thanks to the posters for clearing it up. The xenophobia about this matter is stunning. With all the continued mis-information continuing to spew on this matter it can only be that or idiocy.
     
  46. Misterbill

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    But I don't think they are from Central Texas
     
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    Oooh, can't have that.
     
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    Yes, because all athletes for a college team should be central to the area that the college is located... Brilliant.
     
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    Living proof that attempts at humor do not always translate well on message boards...........or dlesser has no sense of humor.

    So, to be clearer, I have no problem with the nationalities represented on the Texas men's or women's teams. I think the men in particular have done an exceptional job recruiting in-state, if that is important to anyone. I think another poster's complaint that 4 stars from Central Texas are shut out of U Texas is.....well......frivolous
     
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    To be clear I did get your joke MisterBill.
     

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