Looking for a "neutral" synthetic gut for cross

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  1. Minion

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    Hi, I've been using Luxilon ALU Power (silver) in my Bio F2 Tour's. I don't live in the US, so getting the strings are hard, and expensive, but not impossible. I've tried other poly's and co-poly's, but I prefer the ALU's.

    However, it seems a bit of a waste in a full bed, not to mention expensive, so I'm looking for a synthetic gut (not a multifilament) to use as a cross string - that would "interfere" with the ALU's characteristics as little as possible, if that makes sense?

    Any suggestions?
     
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  2. Steve Huff

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    I'd try Head Syn PPS or even Gamma Syn.
     
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  3. Lukhas

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    Tecnifibre S-Gut. I didn't even wat to use that but that was what was on my frames when they arrived. Really neutral, not dead but not crisp, not powerful but not weak, not spin friendly but not totally dead on that side either. It made me realise the strengths and weaknesses of my frame. Going to cut it anytime soon, too neutral for my liking.

    But s-gut has one problem, it moves a lot. It isn't really slick, so the mains don't snap back properly. I'd rather search a slick cross string than a neutral one.
     
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  4. Shangri La

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    How about a cheap poly?
     
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  5. Lukhas

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    Better idea.
     
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  6. Minion

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    Thanks for the suggestions, i like the sounds of the Technifibre S-Gut. I'll have to check at my local shop what they have. Only thing is, i will have to go through their inventory myself, the guy there is convinced syn gut is the same as a multi, and there are no differences between the other strings - except for the color:)
     
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  7. Lukhas

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    ^Yup, but it isn't really slick. Well I play on clay, so besides poly, no string is slick. It'd be better to find a slick cross to maximise the proprieties of the Luxilon main. Or maybe stringing at lower tensions.
     
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  8. drgchen

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    I would put in a cheaper polyester string. Signum pro poly plasma as a cross to Alu power should work as a neutral string. It is a fraction of the price (reels of it are probably $80-90). It has a similar feel to ALU.

    Based on what you say about the tennis shop, you may be better off stringing yourself, it saves you money.
     
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  9. Minion

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    Thanks, i will look what they have in stock - they do have a decent range of strings available. I wish i could string myself, i'm still considering it, but the stringer there is good - its just the guy in the front that doesn't know the difference between a guitar string and a tennis string:) He also firmly believes that Djokovic, Murray, Berdych etc.. actually plays with the racquets they "endorse" - because the Head rep said so:???:
     
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    Pros Pro synthetic gut @ 19 euro's per reel. Very dead feeling syn gut and pretty slippery. It is prestretched so it feels closer to a poly.

    If you want a cheaper poly as cross look for discho strings. There is a thread called mamba tennis if you want to know more.
     
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  11. Stardust

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    If there is some Pro's Pro rep. around, since this brand is not so wide spread everywhere, I'd mention and some of their well slippery polys in thin gauges for crosses - Red Devil, Vendetta, etc. - $30 - 40 per reel.
     
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  12. Lukhas

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    ^I have lots of Pro's Pro the French internet (with one site that ships to England I think, dunno for other countries). Just not in the USA it seems. I think there's one US site who has some, but I don't remember which one.
     
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  13. Power Player

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    If you want a crisp feel - go with Prince Origial Synth gut or Gosen OG Sheep Micro.

    If you want to soften it up a bit - Forten Sweet.

    My choice after using all 3 extensively is Forten Sweet. I consider it to be the best possible string you can purchase, and I also notice more control and spin with this string (I have used it in a full job and hybrid).

    Full Forten Sweet in an 18x20 pattern is one the best setups you can have IMO, and is insanely cheap.

    As a hybrid in an 16x19, it is wonderful.

    I used gut/poly in the past, and to me that is the best setup, but the price and longevity is not worth it to me. Poly mains and forten crosses give me tons of spin and control at the cost of less than $10 a string job.
     
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  14. Stardust

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    The man wants not to soften or change in some way the Lux Alu Power's poly feel of the string bed but just to divide into half the cost of a full set of Alu.
    From this point of view, IMO, the best solution is another but a bit softer, thinner, slippery and as cheap as possible poly... or I don't catch something?
     
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  15. Power Player

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    Yes you missed the fact that there is no "neutral" syngut string that doesn't have it's own characteristics.

    You also missed that he wants to save money, and syn gut is less than half of what any cheap thin poly (like MJSV Cofocus) would cost.

    So it is better to describe the characteristics of the most popular crosses rather than pretend that what he is asking for actually exists for $3.
     
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    I completely agree with Power Player. So far, I have tried PSGD, GSM, PPA and Forten Sweet as cross strings with Poly Mains. Forten Sweet is the best. TourBite17/FortenSweet17 combo at 50/53 is working really well for me. No arm discomfort, lot of spin, feel, retains tension for decent time.
     
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  17. netguy

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    Another vote for Sweet :)
     
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  18. Minion

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    Thanks for the advice:) I have tried Pacific Powerline 16l in the past, and although it is a great cross string, it is a bit too powerful. I like a more control oriented setup, so I can take full swings without worrying about hitting the building next to the courts:)

    On my list to try is:

    Forten Syn Gut Sweet 16
    Gamma TNT2 Tour 16
    Gosen OG-Sheep 16

    These seems to be the most popular syn guts. I might also try them in a hybrid with WeissCannon B5E - seeing as it's also a Co-Polymer. I've used it in the past in a full bed and was quite impressed. I'm not sure about all the technology in strings but I do prefer the Co-Polymer to a Polyester for some reason:confused:
     
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  19. Shangri La

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    To use in the crosses, I'm pretty sure you can find a co-poly that does reasonably well for a lot cheaper than B5E.
     
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