loose strings

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  1. hadaron

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    I have tried do string my second racket on my gamma progression 200.
    The mains came out so loose that I had to cut them (54 lbs). What am I doing wrong?
    Also, after I cut the strings of the first racket i have strung, I saw that I can move the knots(wilson pro knot). Is It normal?
     
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  2. Maui19

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    It is highly likely that your clamps are slipping.
     
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  3. oest10

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    There's multiple things that might be happening. Check the most "obvious" and probable reasons first:

    -Clamp Base slipping
    -Clamp Teeth slipping
    -String slipping through the tensioner
     
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  4. hadaron

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    I use flying clamps. I tried to adjust the clamps and I don't think they were slipping because there were biting marks on the string(they were to tight). i didn't see any slippage in the tensioner. I don't understand what could have caused it.
     
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  5. Irvin

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    You need to get an experienced stringer do a 1 on 1 session with you.
     
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  6. hadaron

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    I don't know any stringers. should I just continue to string?
     
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  7. Chotobaka

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    If the strings came out so loose that the racquet was unusable you should surely be able to visually identify what is going wrong in the way of slipping. Are you reaching correct tension with the drop weight?
     
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  8. struggle

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    Are you sure you have the weight "reading tension" on the correct side?

    As in, one could possibly read the tension set on the bar either above or below the weight. I don't even remember which is correct and it may depend on the machine as to which side it's supposed to be adjusted to.

    Just a thought, if all else seems right maybe this is the culprit.
     
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  9. lionel_101

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    I suggest you look on Youtube on how to string with the Gamma X-2. There are quite a few. However..

    1. When I was stringing the mains on my first racquet with my X-2 the mains felt very loose. This was because I hadn't done the crosses yet. Once you put the crosses in, everything will be tight.

    2. If you cut the strings, of couse the knots will move, as there is no tension on the strings anymore.

    3. If it was the tensioner, flying clamps or miss reading the bar setting, then the crosses will be loose as well.

    I would think it is just new user error, so go to YouTube.
     
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  10. hadaron

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    thanks everyone!
    I have just finished stringing the racket(with new strings) and it's better. Still, I find the strings a little loose, but not to much.
    It will probably be tighter after some more training...
     
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  11. ten11

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    Did you finish the whole job before you cut it out? how do you know it is too loose?

    I have used Klipmate for few years. I will pay attention to few more things.
    1. check the mounting is correct. if the mounting is not correct, it not only can cause loose string, it will cause damage to racket. (Believe me, I made plenty of mistakes there. My racket was moving while tensioning. luckily, no damage to the rackets.)
    2. take a close look at the flying clamp when you start the main to make sure it is not slipping. After that, you should be fine because two string pulling in different direction. For some oily string, it is very difficult to start the main.
    3. clamp close to the frame if possible.
    4. make sure it is not slipping in tension head, I don't think that will be a problem. wait it leveled and stay there before clamping.
    5. tie a good knot.
    6. get a starting clamp. this will solve the problem to start the main and tie a good knot. this is the number tool you should have other than a cutter and awl.

    You might find the main is looser than you expected but it does not tell you anything unless you finish the cross.

    I will also suggest to buy a cheap reel to practice. practice and pay attention, that will help you. do NOT stop stringing.

    Good luck.
     
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  12. hadaron

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    Okay thank you
     
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  13. oest10

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    If you really want this solved; Videotape yourself while stringing and post a link. I suppose 10 min video of you stringing and tensioning the mains should do.
     
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  14. Maui19

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    I string on a Progression 200, and I always mark the strings with a sharpie to check for clamp slippage at the beginning of each string job. In my experience, clamp marks on the string don't tell you anything other than there are clamp marks on the string.
     
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  15. hadaron

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    I think I know what I am doing wrong. I set the tension so that the upper side of the weight touches the correct number.
    Should it be the lower side?
     
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  16. oest10

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    Yes. Haha :)
     
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  17. hadaron

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    :-?Haha I feel so stupid
     
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  18. oest10

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    Well if you dont know any other stringers it seems a real easy mistake to make! Good for you that its such an easy fix now!
     
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  19. struggle

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    exactly what i was suggesting above, in my last post.

    it happens alot, no worries. you're good to go now.
     
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  20. Irvin

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    When all else fails read the instructions:

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  21. hadaron

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    One last question: I tied Parnell knots and they move a little. Is it OK?
     
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  22. oest10

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    What movement? I dont think my parnell knots move in any way. Make sure you tighten "the loop" real good before you pull it through and finish the knot.
     
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  23. hadaron

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    I just cut them and then they didn't move.
    They probably moved because of the tail...
    thanks anyway
     
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  24. Irvin

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    There are two sections of the Parnell that need to be tightened. When tightening the second part if you allow the string to twist it will be difficult to tighten the second portion properly and it will not keep back pressure on the first half hitch when you release the clamp. Also remember to keep some pressure on the tag end of the string when you release the clamp.

    EDIT: I doubt it makes any difference but the knot itselft should not move even slightly when the clamp is released.
     
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  25. hadaron

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    Yes, I did that and it looks just fine.
     
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