love and hate relationships in the 70´s and 80´s rivalries

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  1. magnut

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    i suspect they had common interests in the way of being the figurehead of tennis for their country. both had rabid followings in their homelands. thats about the only thing that makes sense IMO.

    i think henman was a pretty mature and intelligent fellow from early on and saw through a lot of the BS backtalk that surrounded rios. Rios was a pretty nice guy deep down he was just an extreme introvert and liked his space. i have never heard rios speak ill of other players. he is quite frank and comes off as abrasive sometimes. he doesnt really fake anything and I have never heard him give a scripted answer to a question.
     
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  2. kiki

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    For all the harrasement Lendl got in his heydays, few have been brightest at press conferences.Many journalist I know from that time just rushed in.
     
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    What about Okker v Nastase? Nastase hated that Okker had such a good record against him and called him names and tried to rattle him before a match and on court but in the Seniors they became friends and played doubles together.

    Okker liked by most people. Is still friends with Marty Reissen, Frew McMillan, Bob Lutz and Ismael El Shafei. Was a great friend of Arthur Ashe. Learned a lot about art from Wojtek Fibak but not sure if they are still friends
     
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    No, Nastase and Okker used to play a lot together when at their prime

    Nastase used to call him cheese ( not jew, BTW) because netherland´s most famous product is cheese.

    Okker and Nastase probably got along fine always

    BTW, Ilie called Kodes " The Russian", but it was a long time joke between both.When The CCSR played the SU in DC, Nastase travelled to Prague to support the czechs.He and Kodes were friends and both hated the Soviets, quite understandable in those times...
     
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  5. Tennisknowledge99

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    I see Laver has some respect for Roche but Roche seem doesn't want to be involved with Laver

    Connors and Mac is weird relationship, they had a lot of heat argument but they actually practiced together, in 1992 USO, Connor said that his attitude, along with Mac and Borg are kind of classic and made a triangle between them while he mocked and said Lendl out of the rivalries. Connors and Lendl are really torrid rivalry. Both are very hot-head and prideful

    Lendl and Mac become closer today but I think Mac still has some hard feeling, probably he still not get over their 1984 FO match
     
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    Were there two players more competitive than Evert and BJK? They intimidated a lot of opponents in their day. Their rivalry at Wimbledon was pretty sweet. 1978 and 1982 semifinals come to mind. They both looked tight in 82 which I thought was weird for two of the most experienced slam competitors. BJK looked like she threw the third set and I remember her chit chatting at Evert after the match, but Evert wouldn't even look at BJK much less talk to her.
     
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    Ashe was a loner. That was understandable given the circumstances, but it was a personality trait as well. Somewhat ironically, Ashe was an establishment guy when it came to the ATP and always came off a little self righteous, especially when it came to conduct. The feud with Connors had been beaten to death, but I never had the feeling that Ashe was involved in any big rivalry with any player. He was a pretty good guy that stuck mostly to himself. Pretty non-threatening for a #1 ranked player.
     
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    Ashe was also a huge misogynist who made numerous disparaging comments about women's tennis, saying that they didn't deserve any prize money, belonged in the kitchen etc, plus he was a player off the court (more so than Nastase actually), but then again so were many of the best players in the 60s and 70s.

    His attitudes incurred the wrath of BJK on numerous occasions.
     
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    This is very true..weird huh? I remember one year watching Mac and Jimmy hitting for about an hour in Armstrong stadium. It was a hoot. That was an insiders secret....hang out after the matches are done and the big kids come out to practice. They had a very odd relationship; Mac even said as much in his bio.
     
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    totally agree....Ashe is worshipped nowadays, but there was a side to him I never really cared for..
     
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    I never got the sense that Mac and Connors hated Wilander and Edberg...it wasn't a love fest, but hatred? I thought Connors and Edberg had a pretty good rivalry even tho' Connors was reaching the age of Social Security eligibility.
     
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    Becker and Mac are/were buddies. Often pratised/still go out to dinner
     
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