Discussion in 'Strings' started by TW Staff, Mar 25, 2010.
Is it me, or is this post making any sense?
I think they're trying to say that low tensions will only work with a stiff frame when returning fast balls.
It got so heavy because the coats of white and then green added way more than i thought. The black was 2-4 grams but this was more like 20+. brass ring was needed to make it playable. The 15 oz gold version was better
Ah the good days.
That's a fat, round grip too! What's going on there?
Yep. I think it may have been fairly round. Now adays I have more square grips, that measure the same at 5 1/4" I start with a stock 3/8, wrap a Wilson Shock shield replacement grip over that, cut another Shock Shield grip into 4 strips and place them on bevels 2,4,6,8. Then I wrap with 2 gamma supreme OGs. It ends up roughly at 5 1/4 and bevels 2,4,6,8 are much smaller giving a squarish handle. I would try a different shape handle to see, though fwiw I can play with any shape and there were some with little bevels at all like the one on the prince in the pict.
The square nature though and the size mean I don't have to squeeze hard at all and can hit really loose, and no blisters at all, and no callouses either, because I dont get any blisters.
And since most pros use 4 1/2- 4 5/8" overall mine is not that much bigger.
Awesome! I'm def gonna give this a shot
Seems that the hype is gone. Six years now and no more reports in the blog.
That you, Shaq? Are you a giant or just prefer heavy racquets with huge grips
Shaq would eat me for breakfast
5'10 210 with hands that measure for a 4 1/2
I had te back then and the heavy sticks really helped
It was always just an experiment. Chris, et al, must play test dozens of rackets a year, and have no choice but use the strings and string tensions people more commonly use for their feedback to be relevant.
I would expect an elt to work better, as in much more of a difference on feel and less noodling, with a stiffer racket. But I think it largely depends on the strings, specific racket and the player. I found an ELT with a stiff poly is great in a pog, but not so good in a PD. But perhaps the newer PDs take to it better. Mine is an older one.
I suppose the hype has died down about ELT, but like anything new and controversial, there is a lot of initial excitement about the possibilities. With tennis, everyone would like to have a quick edge to improve their game. Many give it a trial yet revert back, some are opposed and will never try it, and some will convert or keep it as an option. I've tried it in numerous racquets and have reverted back a couple of times only to find something missing. Like O ports, polys and extreme open patterns, ELT isn't for everyone, but it has created another interesting offshoot in this sport we love, and while it may never take off like polys, it has changed conventional thinking to a degree.
As for what racquets it works best in, I'm not sure how much flex has to do with it. It has made every racquet I've tried it in feel better to me, but the racquet specs weren't for me. I've hit ELT in a 7g, Silver Ace 110, POG 100, and APD, and all of them felt better for it. The obvious problem is those specs are all over the board which kept me from digging in with it.
I've currently found a tremendous setup for me with BHBR x Blackzone @ 30 lbs in a POG 100. It suits my style and preferences perfectly, so I think I'm holding for a while. The POG is fairly flexible, but it is heavier (like most of the racquets I tried) which I think might be a bit more important. Not sure how a 10oz racquet would react. Just a thought, but I'm really not sure. All I know is my current setup rocks.
Anyway, just wanted to add something to the discussion.
weight should help.... there has to be something as a foundation for the strings to complete now a longer stretch/shorten cycle... all my rackets are 12oz minimum, so maybe I took the weight for granted... but I can imagine mass on a more flexible frame will help.. a player's swing will be a factor too.... does the swing release at the same time as the strings? then you get good power. on the other hand, if one has a quick snappy swing forward while the strings are still moving backwards (relative to the frame), then you get very poor power.
only experiments can find the what suits a particular player, like many things other than the ELT
in a way, ELT or not is similar to what shaft a golfer chooses... the shaft release timing needs to match the player's swing speed... take 2 extremes... if you ask a pro man to use a senior shaft, the swing will complete way before the shaft has a chance to kick (release), if you ask a 80 yo golfer to use a extra extra stiff, then the kick will be way before the swing gets to the ball.... either one does not work.
I strung my Prestige MP at 35 with a poly/syn hybrid. It was great for an hour or two, but then the strings started to fray, and became completely dead to the point that I couldn't hit with it anymore.
I then strung the same racquet at 35/38 with all poly, and it played even better and it lasted a lot longer. I used to string my racquets at 52, and it was not a difficult transition to drop down to 35. It immediately gave me more power and spin without having to swing very hard. There isn't too much loss of control either.
This has been my experience, too. The transition was very easy, and the results have all been positive.
Did anyone try ELT with Wilson Revolve strings?
I'm really curious to give it a try. Revolve is my favorite poly and wanted to have feedback before I possibly waste a perfect set of Revolve at 30lbs...
I think ELT is no different than non ELT tension when it comes to personal preference. I find I like my ELT with mains at 38-40 and the crosses in the 35/36# range. I can really swing out, and as long as I put good topspin on the ball, they stay in. Yet the feel is still crisp with a full swing. Control is phenomenal.
That sounds a lot like my experience. Durability is pretty surprising.
I think if you want a hybrid to work, you have to bump up the syngut's tension quite a bit. My brother has had good results with something like 45 lbs for the poly and 55 for the syngut, but you still have to match the poly and the syngut a bit. I tried similar tensions with different strings, and the results were pretty poor.
Just tried yonex tour spin 17 in an extreme at 40x36 and it lost so much tension so fast, it was nearly unplayable after one match. It now has less power than any racket I have tried in decades. But control is excellent... Er..
40x36 with cyber flash silver is excellent in my 27.25" babolat pure control tour. It was too mushy for me at 30. I think you give up no extra spin, but gain more power and feel at 40#.
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