Low power string but NOT harsh?

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  1. borgpro

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    I am confused with all the new strings!
    Some of them that I tried are way too powerfull for my classic long flat strokes.
    Which string will give me LOW LOW power without being harsh/stiff, but remaining touch?
     
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  2. mikeler

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    Mantis Comfort Synthetic is low powered and is the softest non-natural gut string I've ever hit with. The downside is durability for me, but if you have flat strokes it may last much longer.
     
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  3. scotus

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    That's easy. Head rip control.
     
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  4. mikeler

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    Mantis Comfort is softer than RIP but both are low powered and are very unique compared to all the other multifilaments out there.
     
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  5. bfactor61

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    i found kirsch competition to be very low powerd
     
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  6. SteveI

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    Thats the one I was thinking of...
     
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  7. Keifers

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    Maxim Touch is low-powered multi and has excellent pocketing, feel and touch. I would highly recommend it to flatter hitters.
     
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  8. J_aces

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    WC b5e for a poly
     
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  9. Tennis100

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    Dunlop black widow, it is actually the softest poly on the market, and it doesn't have that much power.
     
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  10. Steve Huff

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    I agree with the Rip Control. However, I don't like the feel of it. I prefered the FXP. But, it is low powered, and it isn't harsh.
     
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    sppp.......
     
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  13. borgpro

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    Thank you all for the suggestions!


    which brand is this? I do not see it at TW at least..?
     
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  14. borgpro

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    And what about the new Wilson NXT control I just saw on the TW webstite, what do you think? Will it be lower powered than the wilson sensation I have now in my frame?
     
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    Pro Supex.......google it

    (Also, just use a 16 gauge nylon...good enough for most purposes)
     
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  16. lefty10spro

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    Prince Recoil is a sweet playing low-powered multi that stays in place!
     
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  17. mikeler

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    This is one of the highest powered multis I've tried.

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=352048


    Wilson NXT Control is an excellent control string and very soft.
     
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  18. SteveI

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    I picked up a reel of Gosen ProForm Tuff 16 in nat. That stuff is low powered.. crisp and not harsh. Also a reel can be had for $25.00. Forten Nylon in 16 or 15G is also an nice option. Great for flat hitters. If you are trying to create a ton of spin.. not the best option.
     
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  19. Keifers

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    No disrespect to mikeler and his excellent work in the linked thread... That's not been my experience of MT at all. And I haven't read that from anyone else here.

    Just for reference, I'm comparing with multis such as NXT, NXT Tour, NRG2, SuperNatural Pro Stock, Gamma Professional, Gamma TNT2 Pro Plus, TF Multi-Feel, Yonex 850 and 850 Pro...

    MT is also very reasonably priced. Highly recommend the op give it a try.
     
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  20. tlm

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    I agree mt is a low powered string, i dont care what
    what anyone else says. I would have to say that anyone
    whos says it is one of the most powerful multis, has no
    idea of what they are talking about.

    I have been staying away from polys for a few years now
    for health reasons. So i have checked out a lot of multi
    strings, one of my main concerns is control. Believe me there
    are not that many out there that have enough control for me.

    But mt does have very good control, it has a built in limited
    flight. My complaint is that i dont get the bite+spin out of it.
    But it has very good control+comfort, makes a great x's in
    a hybrid.

    When people say that rip control, isospeed are control strings
    i agree 100%. I am not saying they are great strings, but
    definitely have good control. Other multi's that have good
    control are nxt tour, nxt control, k-gut, laserfibre pro stock.
     
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  21. mikeler

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    No offense taken. What gauge are we talking about? I've only tried 17g but want to try out 16g soon.


    Some offense taken.
     
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  22. tlm

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    Sorry but if you are saying that mt is a powerful
    multi i just cant imagine what you would classify
    as low powered.
     
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  23. mikeler

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    The ones you mentioned like RIP Control and Isospeed Control are low powered. Mantis Comfort is the lowest powered multi for me. What gauge MT were you using? Why does your formatting look so weird, are you posting this from a phone?
     
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  24. JT_2eighty

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    HEAD RIP or HEAD Intellitour. Soft and high control, muted feel, not lively or powerful at all; great for flat strokes and touch shots; as close to gut for comfort that I have used, and quite durable for multi as well. Very unique multi, using ribbon construction instead of typical multifilament fibers... the ribbon tech seems to aid durability and also "mutes" the feel so that it plays soft yet low powered, with no harshness. Pain to string though (for a multi). For pure arm heaven, gut mains, Head Intellitour crosses.
     
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  25. mikeler

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    I forgot about Intellitour. Quasi Gut also seemed fairly low powered to me too.
     
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  26. tlm

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    I tried mt in both gauges, also strung it fairly tight. But it played with very good
    control, not saying it did not have any power. But it had that built in restricted
    flight which i look for in a string. I liked that part of it, but it lacked good bite +
    spin.

    I have never tried mantis comfort, i will give it a go. I am now trying out
    wilson nxt control which seems like it might be the string i am looking for.
     
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  27. hoodjem

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    IMO Isospeed Professional 17 (Classic) is soft and low-powered.
     
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  28. Keifers

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    I've only used 17ga (1.25mm).
     
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  29. Keifers

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    JT,

    How would you compare gut mains/Intellitour crosses with all gut. Or gut mains and other crosses?

    Is it the softest combo, for instance? And what do you give up?
     
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  30. mikeler

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    Wilson NXT Control is a very good string. Almost as soft as Mantis Comfort and Babolat Xcel Premium. You may find that the Mantis is almost as good and much cheaper so I think it may be worth your time to buy a pack and try it.
     
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  31. Boricua

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    Is RIP much more durable than Mantis Comfort?
     
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  33. Boricua

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    So, what would be your two best multis that are low power and good for big topspin hitters?:) Or would it be better to hybrid poly with gut to get a similar soft feel?:)
     
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  34. mikeler

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    Yes.


    NXTC gets pretty good spin for a multi.
     
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  35. Boricua

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    So, what would be your two best multis that are low power and good for big topspin hitters? Is NXTC one of them? What about Biphase?:)

    Would it be better to hybrid poly with gut to get a similar soft feel?:)
     
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  36. JT_2eighty

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    I haven't tried as many multis as Mikeler, but comparing full toughgut to toughgut/intellitour cross, the comfort is equal. Now, the comfort of Toughgut is not as plush as VS, but I've even done VS/Intellitour crosses and that was BUTTER. Thing is, I like a good control setup, and VS is more powerful than Tough. VS/Intellitour was good power & spin, Toughgut/Intellitour was good control & spin (other benefit to Intellitour's cross is that it has low friction qualities that allow for efficient snap-back). Compared to gut/poly, it is the closest you can get in similar feel with much more comfort. VS too much power for me, and pricey, so Pacific guts are my go-to gut.

    So, anyway, Intellitour crosses help tame the power of gut without sacrificing ANY comfort. But, keep in mind this is using the "RIP Feel" crosses, found in Intellitour hybrid pack (means you will waste the RIP Tour mains, which are a slightly stiffer version of RIP Control... I used to string RIP Tour full bed for a friend but he switched to NXT, anyways...).

    Ok, if this isn't confusing enough, I'll go on...

    Gut/poly is better spin than any of the above, but also is the *least* comfortable of the 3--full gut, gut/rip, gut/poly (of course... this should be obvious as there is no hiding the fact that poly is stiff, even as a cross for gut). Other multis I have not hybrided with gut... so, take my words for what they are... BUT, having used full VS, full Toughgut, full PClassic, full BDE Rallye, and gut/syn gut... I found that crossing gut with Intellitour crosses is just as comfy as full gut, with lower power (better control).

    Hope that helped. As far as multis, I've tried Alpha 2k, Gamma Revelation, Intellitour, RIP Control, NXT tour and NXT, X-1 17 (in a demo, so rough comparison), and a few others I can't remember.

    Oh, and if it helps, many say that RIP Feel (Intellitour cross) is the same or as close as the same thing to Isospeed Professional Classic 17. Both are Ribbon coreless polyolefin string. If you look them up on RSI, they have similar results, yet Intellitour Cross 17 remains the softest of the list. But, so you aren't wasting RIP T mains, try ISO... to which you may then notice that all I've described is a modified Mojo Rig (gut/iso pro classic).

    Oh well. It is quite good.
     
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  37. JT_2eighty

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    I'd try Head Intellitour. No discomfort of poly with 90% of the benefits. Low power and comfy... quite muted/dead in feel, but the playability and comfort is great.

    To be clear, no multi I've tried comes close to the potential of poly, but if comfort and control are you concerns, it is a good string.

    For pure spin, Mikeler will be better source it sounds like he uses more spin than this indoor hard courter :)
     
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  38. Boricua

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    Would Intellitour mains and gut crosses make sense?:)
     
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  39. JT_2eighty

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    Not really, the gut is great in the mains, better to modify it through changing your cross. Otherwise multi main with gut cross is going to be small change from full multi. Something about gut mains just imparts better feel, touch, spin, etc.
     
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  40. Boricua

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    How many more or less hours of playing time do you get from gut mains if compared to

    1)all multi

    2)poly/gut

    Sorry all, this is not part of the thread.:)
     
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  41. tlm

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    Whenever you add poly you are going to lose the soft feel of
    a full multi. I would say the best multi's for topspin hitters
    would be wilson nxt tour, prince premier lt is pretty good
    also wilson nxt control which i have only used once, still
    checking it out. I was using kgut which is now discontinued+
    was hard on the arm for a multi. Laserfibre pro stock was the
    best, but it is unavailable also. It is not easy finding a good
    multi that has the control+spin.
     
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