Luke Jensen is dillusional......

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by NoBadMojo, May 31, 2006.

  1. NoBadMojo

    NoBadMojo G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    11,915
    Location:
    Parts unknown
    Anyone catch Luke Jensen verbally challenging the US players to get in better shape to be able to do the grind at the French Open? First of all, I think the top US players are about as fit as they can be without some/more juicing, and have mostly the problem of not practicing on the dirt and learning how to play on it, but he had the bravado to cite his DOUBLES victory there as being some sort of amazing accomplishment of discipline, dedication, and fitness..I thought that was a pretty ridiculous thing to say
     
    #1
  2. JRstriker12

    JRstriker12 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    Messages:
    3,367
    True, Jensen rides that French Open Doubles victory pretty hard! But he's paid to have wacked out opinions so that people talke about it - see Brad Gilbert as exhibit A.

    As for fitness, I think Blake and Roddick (when his ankle doesn't cave in) are pretty fit guys. I can't speak about the rest of the men's field though.
     
    #2
  3. travlerajm

    travlerajm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,416
    Yeah. He kept saying how "I won the French Open Championship," without ever mentioning that it was doubles, or that he had a partner that helped him do it.
     
    #3
  4. Count Grishnackh

    Count Grishnackh Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2004
    Messages:
    397
    The Americans are gonna stink on clay for at least another 5 years. No juniors right now look like anything special. I would say that Roddick and Blake are the only Americans to look fit and will most likely carry the flag for the next 5-7 years. After that, the next bunch better be good or tennis coverage in this country may shrink.
     
    #4
  5. hoosierbr

    hoosierbr Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2005
    Messages:
    1,837
    I don't think fitness was the right word either, unless he's talking about Dent or Gimelstob! I think besides not spending enough time practicing and learning how to play on clay, not even from from a young age, American players seem to have an enormous lack of patience at Roland Garros. I haven't seen anyone who's willing to grind three, four or five hours to win a match.

    Jensen's doubles championship isn't something I'd keep touting over and over again. After all, Patrick McEnroe won the doubles at the French too.
     
    #5
  6. Free_Martha

    Free_Martha Guest

    #6
  7. HollerOne5

    HollerOne5 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    May 9, 2006
    Messages:
    644
    I was cracking up when he was mouthing off all this junk last night. Didn't the Bryan twins win doubles last year on clay at the French Open, yet he doesn't point out they were easily able to do what he did back in 1993, even though they are American?

    Doubles on clay and singles on clay aren't even close to being the same thing. In fact, I'd say singles on clay versus singles on grass is a closer comparison. What a joke.
     
    #7
  8. ACE of Hearts

    ACE of Hearts G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2005
    Messages:
    13,949
    I think u can play a baseline game on clay, look at Agassi but nobody's Agassi.Also some of these guys cant slide on the stuff.I think Blake can go far in this tournament if he puts his head on straight.
     
    #8
  9. inquisitive

    inquisitive New User

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2005
    Messages:
    79
    Luke needs to stick to his instructional videos instead of worrying about other pro players.
     
    #9
  10. VGP

    VGP Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2005
    Messages:
    6,311
    Location:
    Location: Location
    It's not a lack of fitness. It's a lack of familiarity with the surface.

    Ship off some juniors to Spain to train like a lot of other countries.

    As to the ESPN article, it puts too much emphasis on the serve itself.

    I'd agree though that the average American player does feed off of a match not taking too long. Longer points, games, sets and matches? That's so not American. It just doesn't feel like a proper ass-kicking.

    Take a page from the Agassi-Gilbert relationship. Not until Agassi learned to use his spinning kickers and grind it out running his opponent did he get to hoist the Coupe des Mousquetaires.
     
    #10
  11. 35ft6

    35ft6 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,557
    Can't see this happening. Blake, at his best, plays very high risk tennis. On clay, he'll have to hit 4 or 5 shots to get the same results he'd get with 2 shots on hard courts. Can he play that consistently? Doubt it. He hits a pretty flat ball.
     
    #11
  12. 35ft6

    35ft6 Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,557
    There aren't any real specialists on the WTA tour. The women who win tend to win on all surfaces.
     
    #12
  13. arosen

    arosen Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,101
    Jensen is a goof, that's his job. Both Roddick and Blake are super fit, it's the injuries that hamper them. Look at Gasquet, he says his legs gave up on him, and that's after 3 sets of clay tennis? Roddick's match against AlAnaoui at AO to me is forever a standing example of fitness and dogged determination. If anything, Roddick is extremely fit.
     
    #13
  14. topspin_05

    topspin_05 New User

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2005
    Messages:
    42
    I'd have to agree that Luke Jensen is, for most purposes, a complete tool. I didn't even know Patrick McEnroe won the French mostly just because he doesn't ever say that he did. How many former players are like "yeah i won that, that's right, i did it." Not many. Luke Jensen can't even talk right when he's covering a match: "Smash and crash" and all that nonsense. It looks more like a chip than a smash to me...dumb@$$. Anyhow, he's dumb.

    The biggest thing I think is patience. American tennis players i.e. Roddick want to hit the big winner instead of rally for 6-8 more shots. I don't understand this more than other people might because I have to rally alot too to win points, that's just how I play. I'm more of a grinder right now than a shotmaker, but it gets the job done. People that are used to playing 5 shot points and hitting winners just aren't going to do as well I think on clay, and unfortunately that's how American tennis is right now.
     
    #14
  15. @wright

    @wright Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    3,567
    Hey Mojo! I agree. Since Luke didn't do much as a pro, it seems that he is trying to do SOMEthing that people will talk about. I remember when Federer one a slam (I think it was this last US Open), Luke was on sportscenter explaining why Federer is definitely the greatest of all time. I'm thinking "was this guy even born when Laver played?"
     
    #15
  16. BabolatFan

    BabolatFan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2005
    Messages:
    790
    Location:
    East Coast
    I won't disagree with you on this. There won't be another agassi. Rigthnow though Federer seems to be getting into the swing of things. Brad Gilbert, being goofy, made a good point that US players should seek out sliding coaches. Blake's in pretty good form on clay and Roddick's fit except for his nagging ankle pain. Ginepri didn't look like a solid player on clay. Some folks made comments that Americans will suck on clay another 5 yrs. I'd say don't jump the gun. I guess it depends on the individual's will power and his/her burning desire to win the FO. If he/she trains with discipline, they will get it. Look at Courier and Agassi. These guys could play and win on all surfaces. In conclusion, USTA also should promote clay court tennis nationwide, so more american players become more second nature to clay.
     
    #16
  17. skip1969

    skip1969 Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2005
    Messages:
    6,447
    Location:
    Pleasantville
    luke jensen . . . now THERE'S a waste of air-time if ever there was one. the guy did didley-squat while he was on the tour. why he's even on tv is beyond all logic. i guess they want someone with 'energy' to be on the broadcast team. but being enthusiastic about tennis doesn't mean you have to act like a fool. what an imbecile! (there's no better word for it)

    babbling on about his (ahem) accomplishments. puleeze. guy probably sits around with his drinking buddies bragging about the time back in high school when he scored with the cute head cheerleader. well, he TRIED to bag her . . . but she ended up laughing herself to death before he could get his fly undone. muppet!
     
    #17
  18. !Tym

    !Tym Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    1,697
    I actually like Luke and Murphy Jensen, because I think they're genuinely good people at heart. Luke sacrificed for Murphy, even though everyone told him not to. At the time, Murphy was "lost," and Luke actually was thought to have at least some potential and Murphy none at all. People thought he was crazy to take on his brother as a doubles partner at the time, but he valued blood above all else. I think they're great personally, because they're not tennis elitists in the sense that that they do a tremendous ammount to help grow the game in my opinion at the grass roots level, and more importantly, they're great with kids and also have that "real person" lower-middle class background where to the outside observer they help a lot in the sense that they don't give off that "blue blood" or "priveledged" type feel. I think tennis NEEDS that kind tv "personality" to help make the sport feel more inclusive to a whole 'nother demographic.

    Look, it's not like they're literally in your face all the time, they're used more as on the side, Entertainment Tonight, type personalities. They play their role, and I think it's a necessary role, and they do it well. But above all else, it all comes down to do I think a person is a fundmanetally good person. And when I see the way the other players react around goofy Murphy on that little show he does, I think they genuinely do like the guy.
     
    #18
  19. LowProfile

    LowProfile Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,441
    I don't really care what Luke Jensen says. Any man who can fire off 120s on his serve with either his right or left hand is in my mind, the greatest tennis player that ever lived. After of course, all the world number one's and grand slam winners and consistent top 20 players and Fabrice Santoro (he gets his own little section).

    Really Luke Jensen is a nice guy and says some very insightful things sometimes. It's his brother Murphy that's a total fool on his own little show on TTC.
     
    #19
  20. superman1

    superman1 Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,243
    Luke is the one who appears on the TTC all the time, right? He's one strange dude, but I know other people like that. A little too friendly, too soft-spoken. Makes you uncomfortable.
     
    #20
  21. NoBadMojo

    NoBadMojo G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    11,915
    Location:
    Parts unknown
    Hey Stranger! Good to have you back on here man...the board has changed <more than cosmetically> since you've left dont you think? ;O

    The USTA built an ad campaign around the jensens' remember? 'Rock and Roll Tennis'...I am not diagreeing with Tym..i think Luke is good for the sport and it's great he does charity work and gives back..but i thought it was obvious he didnt have any sort of right to proclaim himself superior in any way to someone who has had success on Tour in singles.

    on a side note, I had the pleasure of meeting Luke in Cincy one time on an adjoining practice court (actually 2 courts over)....he said 'what's up dude? to me'. he was working out with Murphy and they got into it, each gettng pissed at the other...Luke ended up grabbing Murphy's frames and throwing them and when Murphy said 'I'm out" and gathered up his stuff and was walking off court, Luke was hitting tennis balls at him....it was pretty funny. i can conform that Luke can indeed serve well both as a lefty and righty
     
    #21
  22. Kaptain Karl

    Kaptain Karl Hall Of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2004
    Messages:
    5,236
    Location:
    The High Country of Colorado
    HollerOne5 said it very well....
    What had me laughing was ... nobody in the studio *called* Luke on his sillyness. And Murphy must have wondered, "Hey! What about ME!!???"

    Hmm @wright. I seem to remember that guy.... Good to see you haven't *totally* disappeared, friend.

    - KK
     
    #22
  23. IvanYentl

    IvanYentl Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2004
    Messages:
    393
    Agree, Jensen is an idiot, and, as the French would say, etourdi. But I will say there is some entertainment value to be mined from viewing this circus freak studio team of Suzy "from rags to X-games to nose job to football expert to car salesman to tennis expert" Kolber and Luke Jensen, who seriously looks like a space alien and talks like he's got a mouth full of marbles.
     
    #23
  24. NoBadMojo

    NoBadMojo G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    11,915
    Location:
    Parts unknown
    Luke is looking like Beldar from Remulac.............
     
    #24
  25. JRstriker12

    JRstriker12 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    Messages:
    3,367
    Actually I think that's his twin bro - Murphy.
     
    #25
  26. LowProfile

    LowProfile Professional

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,441
    Yeah Murphy is the one on TTC. He's a total fool. Luke Jensen knows what he's talking about. He just goes too far sometimes trying to be funny. Murphy is the one who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
     
    #26
  27. @wright

    @wright Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    3,567
    You guys remember me! It seems like some of the usual characters aren't here anymore...
     
    #27
  28. Max G.

    Max G. Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    4,357
    Yeah... lots of them have vanished. Phil, Deuce - don't see their bickering too much on Pro Player Talk anymore.

    !Tym is still here though, :), still writing his essays. Still as good a read as they were before :)
     
    #28
  29. Rabbit

    Rabbit G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    12,573
    Location:
    at the bottom of every hill I come to
    Great post. I've met them and they are about as unassuming as you could find.
     
    #29
  30. North

    North Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2005
    Messages:
    937
    Well now, that takes me back. I grew up in NYC, so got to see SNL actually live a number of times. Beldar was even more of a dork in person - lol!

    Agree with just not playing on the clay as the main reason Americans don't do well at the FO. I recently got to play on grass and red clay, each for the first time. I have to admit, I enjoyed the grass a lot more and adapted to it more than the red clay (I usually play almost exclusively on hard courts with very rare forays onto HarTru).
     
    #30

Share This Page