Major kudos to Rafa, & more Roger being Roger ...

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  1. Colpo

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    These guys played another epic match yesterday - their rivalry is fast surpassing the Sampras/Agassi rivalry, in terms of the consistency of match-greatness (they're both always ON when they play each other) and their very different playing styles. What their rivalry lacks when compared to the game's greatest rivalry, Mac/Borg, is a black hat between the two of them. Mac being a jerkoff (and Borg being the opposite) is the difference.

    Anyway, Rafa's playing style and method continues to impress. Some of his winners were flat-out extraordinary. How about that FH up the line winner from a baseball catcher's crouch?! And to think he does it all with an extreme Western grip - he's special.

    By 'Roger being Roger', I refer to his by now oft-quoted post-match comment that he's getting closer to figuring out Nadal and beating Nadal on clay. Who but Roger would go public with this opinion AFTER YET ANOTHER LOSS TO RAFA AND A 1-4 CAREER RECORD AGAINST RAFA? It's true that Roger is never out of a match against Rafa, and you always have the lingering feeling that until the last point is concluded, that Roger could turn it around (like yesterday's second set) and take the match, but still ... the hubris on this guy! We get it: you're great, so why do you keep reminding us?

    Can't wait for what else these guys have in store, and kudos as well for the Tennis Channel's live feed and excellent coverage.
     
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  2. tennissavy

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    Nadal is further distancing himself from Federer. Federer is delusional to think that he is getting closer to beating Nadal. If Nadal hadn't blown some key points in the second set he would have easily won in straight sets. Fed was lucky that rapha again got nervous in the fourth set or he would have been b**** slapped. When Nadal stops getting tight, he will bagel roger.
     
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  3. Grimjack

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    Because the media keeps asking him, maybe?

    Listen, if you don't want to hear canned, cliched, inane, pointless blathering, don't tune in to sports star interviews. The media has been interviewing athletes for a century, and not a single one has said anything insightful yet. You know going in what you're going to get. You don't want it? Solution is simple: don't listen.
     
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  4. ATXtennisaddict

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    I seriously don't understand ppl who keep claiming statements like "I'm getting closer to figuring out Nadal's game" as arrogant.

    Nadal is unbeatable on clay, no one has figured him out completely on clay. Federer's working on it and letting you know his progress. Results are showing but Fed needs more court-time with Nadal, probably review tapes etc.

    What is wrong with that? I think you all are a bunch of sensitive ppl that read too much into general statements. Stop overanalyzing.
     
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  5. Colpo

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    I appreciate your cynicism, but that's not my point. My point is that Roger, rather than offering solely a canned, cliched pat on the back to his opponent, frequently breaks from tradition and pats himself on the back more often than not. It's not cliched if he's the only guy doing it. The media has by now picked up on Roger's recurring, not-too-subtle haughtiness, and their questions are tailored to grease out a token response. What struck me is that Roger's usually holding the trophy when he giggles away about his dominance - yesterday, he was runner-up!
     
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  6. Moose Malloy

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    Why is this thread in the match results section? This match is over 24 hours old!
    Should I put my opinion of the 1981 Masters Final in this section as well?
    Jeez...
     
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  7. Moose Malloy

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    Colpo, check out these comments. Fed sounds defensive-

    Q. Three losses in a row against Nadal. Does it mean anything?

    ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, I wish I could have won them, but they don't break down my will or hope or anything because what I care about is looking at the -- well, trying not to lose against him in Grand Slams, and then be ahead of him 2,000 points in the ranking, that's what I care about, and not really losing tonight. I made points against him, so he's under pressure.

    But, yeah, it would have been nice to beat him. But I don't know, you guys have to have more to write about than I have to talk about. So this is for me one night and then I'll be on the road and I'll forget about it, so...

    http://montecarlo.masters-series.com/en/players/interviews/stories/06_federer7.asp
     
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  8. Hal

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    Ok, so Roger loses to Nadal on clay (Nadal's best surface) and in Doha. However, where was Nadal at the Australian Open, Pacific Life, and the NASDAQ 100? So what if Nadal has Roger's number on clay, and is 1-1 on slow hard courts? Nadal needs to make the finals of some of these other (besides clay) big events where Roger is the favorite for me give him the nod against Roger. If Nadal takes Wimbledon or the US Open against Roger, then we can start saying he has Fed's number. Until then Nadal's just beating Roger on a court surface that suites his style.
     
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  9. wfudeac

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    I know Nadal beat him twice this year (Dubai, Monte Carlo) and last year (French Open, ???) and lost to him in Miami. What/when was Nadal's other win over him to go 4-1? Thanks!
     
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  10. oscar_2424

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    It was in Miami 2004, Nadal won 6/3 6/3
     
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  11. tlm

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    Nadal was injured for the ao,lucky for fed.Nadal is 2-1 on hardcourts,how many times do the hard headed fed fans have to hear it.Nadal is 4-1 against fed with 2 yes 2 victories on the hardcourts!

    I know they want to blame it all on clay,but is not true.Nadal owns fed on hardcourts also.Let me see before nadal would never win on hardcourt,so what is it now ,he wont win on certain hardcourts?

    That is pretty sad now we have to have certain surfaces for the god of all time tennis to beat a 19 year old kid.Look at it this way fed lovers i think you are only left with the grass surface.

    At least there is still some place left were fed can beat nadal.
     
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  12. Nictu

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    I don't see any problem with Fed's answer. He's not going to panic after a couple of losses. It won't change his goals. He knows he must play better on clay to beat Nadal and seems to like the challenge. As long as he keeps his lead in the rankings and eventually win some matches against Nadal, he'll keep his cool. But a lot of questions about the rivalry remain to be answered during the FO and the hardcourt summer swing.
     
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  13. superman1

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    Sorry, I don't think this rivalry is even close to Agassi/Sampras. Every time they play, Federer looks nervous and never seems to play well.
     
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  14. arosen

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    Rafa is a blessing to all of us tennis fans. He is the only guy that makes Federer nervous, he is the only guy that OWNS the top dog. He is a reminder to Fed that Fed has gaps in his game, mainly his BH that is a major liability against Rafael. Without Rafa Fed would go unchallenged, and that would make the game boring.
     
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  15. FEDEXP

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    Rafa doesn not really own anyone on hardcourts yet and it's quite laughable to call Federer delusional...
     
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  16. tennissavy

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    OMG, it's incredibly delusional of Federer to say that he is Nadal's equal on clay and that he is getting closer to beating Nadal. I Monte Carlo, Nadal was beating the feces out of Fed. The only reason that things became close, at times, was Nadal getting nervous and failing to close out Federer. Even still, it was a comfortable win. If anything, Nadal is increasing his superiority over Federer on clay.
     
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  17. FEDEXP

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    The simple fact is that clay is one of four surfaces. federer did not ay he was Nadal's equal on clay. You really do seem to have a jones for the teenager.Has anyone noticed that in the rankings Federer is still 2,725 points ahead of Nadal? If Nadal really proves himself on hardcourts then we have a battle.
     
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  18. oscar_2424

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    Yeah but dont forget Federer has been playing longer than Nadal
     
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  19. superman1

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    Uh, points are based only on one year. Otherwise Agassi would be #1 in the world.
     
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