Mamba Tennis

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  1. davedomart

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    Stumbled across their website, and was wondering if anyone has any information about their Black Mamba string, or any of their strings. Comparisons appreciated. Thanx.
     
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  2. davedomart

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    Hellooooooooooooo? Also, how's the customer service?
     
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  3. pepka

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    There's only one Black Mamba... and that's Kobe Bryant ;-) As for the strings go, i don't think anyone tried them (if BigT can't help you, probably no one can).
     
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  4. Murray_fan1

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    I believe the strings offered on their site are made by Discho. Which from my understanding is the same Pro's Pro? They seem to get pretty decent ratings on stringforum. They were offering free samples for awhile but unfortunately I missed out.
     
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  5. fgs

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    i doubt discho is the same as pro's pro. some of the strings surely come from the same factory, but pro's pro is located in austria and discho is located in germany.
     
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  6. BigT

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    They are not the same as Pro's Pro. I have heard of them recently, haven't tried them, but if they want to send me samples they know where to find me.
     
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  7. tomp

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    I saw this Black Mamba string on a German website a week or so ago. From the pictures it looks very similar to RPM, would be interested to see what the results are on court.
     
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  8. Blade0324

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    I have a few sets on the way to try out. I am an RPM user so I am curious how these play. I'll update when I get them later this week and give them a shot.
     
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  9. hescobal

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    Just saw these as well. I'd be willing to try a reel, not sure which to get, unless all the poly strings are the same construction with different textures

    Price is pretty awesome too
     
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  10. Blade0324

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    I have sets up Black Mamba, Black Mamba Gear and Black spin coming so I'll be able to see if the overall construction is the same or what differences there are and compare them to my normal RPM as well as others that I have tried out such as Black Code, Mesquito Bite, etc.
     
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  11. Power Player

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    I have samples and simply am waiting to heal up my wrist before I try them out. Definitely interested in a cheaper version of b5e or even Black Magic.
     
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  12. nalvarado

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    Tell me how they play. They're sending me out a few as well. I'm really interested in their natty as well.
     
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  13. hescobal

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    Did anyone try there sets of strings yet? I received my reel of black spin. I strung it at the same tension as my usual setup and it worked great, but I could tell I needed to lower it to gain some power back for serves, going down 4lbs should do the trick!

    Once I dial the tension in, I don't see why I wouldn't use this as my main string, you can't beat the price for a textured string from germany. I also want to compare this to pro's pro black spin. I have a set and they look pretty similar
     
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  14. nalvarado

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    Keep us updated man! I'm very interested in this company.
     
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  15. hescobal

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    I restrung it 4lbs lower and it felt a lot better in terms of power and spin, but I might have to go up a pound or 2 to keep some control with new balls. Hit with it for around 2 hours

    I just need one more tension adjustment and I think i'll find my desired tension!
     
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  16. davedomart

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    Hescobal: Is it too soon to know the durability & tension maintenance? Thanks.
     
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  17. hescobal

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    I'll definitely have to get back to you on that one after I restring friday
     
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  18. nalvarado

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    For anyone who cares, Big Blue is the same string as Black Mamba, Green Mamba and O-Power, just different colors.
     
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  19. hescobal

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    played yesterday with the black spin setup I had earlier this week. I didn't increase the tension, but it still felt good. I didn't notice any noticeable tension drop like my other poly string setup and no problems with string movement.

    I will restring it tonight and will see how it plays in the morning at mixed doubles practice
     
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  20. Recon

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    ?? update? is it RPM repackaged?
     
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  21. Blade0324

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    So I have now tried a couple of sets of this and can give a bit of feedback.
    I strung up the Mamba Gear at 56-58 mains and crosses.
    My thoughts on the Gear are that it seemed pretty soft. Definately softer than I expected and I did not feel that I got much bite on the ball. Spin actually seemed a bit low both on groundies and on serve. Power was pretty hi and I felt like the stringbed really had a lot of trampoline effect to it. Directional control also seemed to suffer with this string as well. Overall I would give it 5.5/10.
    Next I tried the regular Black Mamba at 57/59 mains and crosses. Went up a bit to account for how soft the gear was.

    This string I actually really like. It feels very similar to RPM with just slightly more power and I mean very slightly. I felt I got good bite and spin on my shots and the results were predictable. Serves felt excellent. I had plenty of power but also enough spin to keep the ball in. Directional control was good. Overall I would say that this is just a very little bit softer than RPM and as a result just slightly higher powered. Tension maintenance is good so far. DST has only dropped about 4 lb. in 4 hours of hitting. For the cost this is a very nice string that I plan to give some more time to and see what happens.
    Thanks Mamba for the opportunity.
     
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  22. Bottle Rocket

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    Has anyone tried O-Power? I just got a set to play with...
     
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  23. Will Pilkinton

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    Its very similar. Maybe just a little more spin and power. I thought that both black mamba gear twisted and black ion rough. They are also like a fraction of the price of rpm. They also have a clone of rpm called rpm power instead of blast, but haven't tried it yet.
     
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  24. Deodorant

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    just ordered a reel of their black spin, seems like a technifibre black code copy. cant wait to try it out.
     
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  25. nadalex

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    I have a reel of it and im just about to finish. I love it. but dont string too low in my opinion keep it around 50-52. I tried it at 48 and it became a rocket launcher at 4 hours.
     
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  26. Dan - FSU PTM

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    Their Black Mamba string is actually really good. It was easy to string and provided good control and power, also it wasnt hard on the arm. Their customer service is really good too. I emailed them to see if I could get a sample of it and they sent me one free of charge right away. I might switch to that string once my IsoSpeed runs out
     
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  27. Larrysümmers

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    ditto. I'am thinking of trying their natty gut and use the black mamba in the mains and the gut in the crosses.
     
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  28. Blade0324

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    I wanted to jump on here and provide an update as I have had the pleasure of trying a variety of strings from them. First off let me say that they are a great company to deal with. Ray is first class and the shipping has been lightning fast!!

    I've tried the Black Mamba, Mamba Gear, Mamba Penta, Mamba spin. I used to play RPM Blast at about 59 mains and 61 crosses and did not care for the Mamba strings in this tension range. At the suggestion of others on the board as well as Ray I have lowered my tension and am now stringing these at about 47-49 mains and 45-46 crosses. I have to say that at this lower tension they really seem to shine.

    About me I am a 4.5 player that uses a lot of spin off the FH and Serve (slice and kick) and hits a pretty flat 2HBH. I have been using Head TGK238.2 but have recently been moving towards the BLX Blade98. I find that this string is really quite exceptional in this frame. I think at present my favorite is the Mamba gear despite my not liking it on my initial try. I have also converted a couple of teammates over to this that used to be RPM users and I string for them.
    I'm happy to answer and specific questions any of you have about specific strings as well.
    And before anyone asks, no I am not affiliated with Mamba in any way.
     
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  29. mad dog1

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    if you guys like black mamba and mamba penta, you should give IonTec a try. i liked mamba penta and then tried IonTec...loved it so much that i bought a reel and haven't looked back since.
     
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  30. Bhagi Katbamna

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    I have been using Mamba Black Ion Rough in my Head Extreme Pro for the past 2 weeks.
    It is a really good polyester string. Ball pocketing is really good. Spin is good too but not crazy spin. I normally use Kirschbaum Pro line II and this string is at least equivalent.
     
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  31. davedomart

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    Which strings is most similar to RPM Blast?
     
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  32. Larrysümmers

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    i agree, powerful, yet soo spinny
     
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  33. Staarr

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    My husband strung my racquet with the Mamba gut and it plays fine - it's a little thicker than the name brands so a little lower tension is better. I liked playing with it but wouldn't want to use it all the time.
     
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  34. mad dog1

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    yeah, plus the great ball pocketing and incredible feel. one of my biggest gripes about poly is the lack of feel which IonTec seems to have in spades. and it's very comfortable.
     
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  35. BlxTennis

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    How about IonTec Hexa? May be just a bit more spin version of it?
     
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  36. mad dog1

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    haven't tried IonTec Hexa, but i'm thinking about trying a set next. i asked Ray about the differences between IonTec vs Hexa and he said you gain a bit more spin at the expense of a bit of comfort (Hexa is a little stiffer given that it's a shaped string) and a bit of feel/touch (given that it's a stiffer string). IonTec already provides plenty of spin but i'm always curious to see what else is out there.
     
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  37. Will Pilkinton

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    I have tried black mamba gear twisted, penta, dynasty control, premium gut, black ion roughand am getting more and this is what I think of them.

    BLACK MAMBA GEAR TWISTED- Pretty soft for a poly. Generates great spin and feels almost exactly like black widow
    BLACK MAMBA PENTA TWISTED- A little on the stiffer side. A little more spin than gear twisted. Feels similar to barbed wire.
    BLACK ION ROUGH- This is a really nice string. Feels almost exactly like RPM Blast ,but it gets more spin. At first it sort of seems to get a little side spin because of the way it is textured. Great string.
    PREMIUM GUT- Good string. Similar to most sheep gut, but just a lot cheaper. Price vs. Performance is great

    Other than that, they have fast shipping and the best customer service that I haver seen. And of course there prices are the best.
     
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  38. rudester

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    Mamba Premium gut has performed very well as a cross string. Have been stringing mains with VS, this works really well. I agree that the fast free shipping is superb and great customer service.
     
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    wow, so after a good 3 days of hitting with mamba black spin, it is an exact copy of technifibre black code in the spin and feel factor, tension maintenance isnt so bad at all. going on my 4th day and its only seen minimal loss. i'd also second what nadalex says and dont drop tension to low, just string at your regular tension. im starting to think if this company just repackages the strings that other companies throw away due to bad quality control..........due to things like to short or too thin/big.
     
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  40. 000KFACTOR90000

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    Wow - that was a backhanded compliment :)
     
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  41. mctennis

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    I'm waiting for the gut in a 17g to come out. I saw that the 16g is sort of thick to get through some grommets. I'm not sure the 17g is out quite yet.
     
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  42. Lsmkenpo

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    They also have a yellow 1.25mm poly called spin monster this is a hidden gem, it is a little livelier than all of the black mamba strings, and plays very consistent for an extended period of time. Well worth a try for any player looking for a livelier poly that doesn't go dead fast or suddenly become a rocket launcher hit to hit.

    It may be the best price to performance poly currently produced.
     
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  43. mad dog1

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    ^^ have you tried IonTec yet? if so, how does it compare? reason why i ask is because i'm generally not a big fan of shaped or twist/textured strings. i've tried some Mamba, Penta, Penta twist and found Mamba and Penta to be pretty good, but IonTec was the best of any poly including other brands i've tried to date.
     
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  44. BobFL

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    Gut 16g looks awful. Very low quality. Gauge is from 1.13 to 1.36 on the sample I saw.
     
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  45. Lsmkenpo

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    Yeah, I have played Iontec, Poly premium, Black spin, Black mamba, Black Mamba Penta Twisted and Spin Monster.

    Iontec is petty unique it is a prestretched poly but still soft and low powered with a large emphasis on control without the need for a lot of topspin to keep the ball in play. The string kind of makes your racquet feel like you are hitting with the control of a denser string patterned racquet while maintaining a soft feeling string bed. No poly that I have ever played really feels like it. It is a unique string that players will either love or hate.

    Spin Monster is much livelier than Iontec, it offers more power and spin, the extra spin is what gives the control with this string. If you have the racquet head speed and hit with a lot of topspin you can hit a really heavy ball with this string. It is not as heavily textured as the various Black Mamba strings, I would call it more shaped than textured. I usually have to restring with most polys after a long match or a hitting session but spin monster doesn't seem to go dead very fast or become a surprise rocket launcher next time you hit with it.

    If you are more of an all court player or a flat ball striker you may prefer the control and feel of Iontec, if you are an aggressive base liner with a lot of racquet head speed and topspin strokes you will probably prefer Spin Monster or Black Mamba Penta Twisted over Iontec.
     
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  46. lstewart

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    I ordered a couple of sets of their 16g gut, and have used it once as a cross for a poly main. It was difficult to string, but seemed okay once in the frame. I don't really care for it, but I think it is just the gut feel, and not the brand of gut. I recently ordered a couple of sets of one of their multi's, Acura Control. It seemed to be made with the same material Isospeed and Head use.... which I've had some interest in... again as a cross string with poly. Have it in a frame as a cross now, but have not hit enough with it yet to have an opinion. Their customer service seems to be very good, at least with general communications.
     
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  47. mad dog1

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    thanks for such a detailed comparison! this is awesome! i might have to order a set of Spin Monster to try. I just love IonTec. I don't find a lack of power from it, but i definitely think it's just middle of the road in terms of power for polys. for a poly i think it really excels in the feel and control department which i really value. i just can't hit w/ strings that don't have any feel. i think the control comes from the amazing feel rather than huge spin potential as you mentioned although i can get some really good spin from it as well. not Tour Bite levels of spin, but still very good spin. i wouldn't mind a little more spin or power so Spin Monster might work well for me. i tried Penta Twisted and it just didn't work at all for me. just didn't get a feel nor did i get any more spin. i far preferred Penta over Penta Twisted. i also love that IonTec is available in reels which Spin Monster is not unfortunately.

    btw, did you string both IonTec and Spin Monster at the same tensions? what tensions did you use? i'm stringing IonTec in my Vantage BC20 at 51.5/49 and in my PS85 at 47.5/46.

    also have you tried IonTec Hexa? if so, can you share how it compares to IT and Spin Monster?
     
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  48. Lsmkenpo

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    IonTec has a lot of stretch for a poly which enhances feel, to get more feel with the various black mamba strings you can drop tension considerably and not lose control. Don't be afraid to go to a much lower tension with them, the feel is much improved and you will still have plenty of control. I would suggest trying at least 5lbs less than your normal tension if you still don't have enough feel, drop tension 3lbs and try again.

    If you try the spin monster I would recommend stringing it at your normal tension the first time, than you will get a feel for the strings characteristics in your own racquet with your strokes. Than you can adjust accordingly. I personally string it at 55lbs, which is around mid tension for my frame. In the same frame I would string Iontec at 50lbs. I don't want to lead you astray you wrote "feel" is an important string characteristic for you. I would rate spin monster as mid level in feel for a poly it is not extremely stiff nor is it as soft as Iontec.

    Sorry, I haven't tried the Hexa yet.
     
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  49. Lsmkenpo

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    Which gut did you try, they have two, the premium which is cow gut and the supra which is sheep gut.
     
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  50. mad dog1

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    really appreciate your recommendations here. i actually tried Penta Twisted at 47/43 in the BC20 which was 5 lower than the tension i string IonTec at. maybe it still wasn't low enough.

    got it. thanks again for being so detailed.

    i'm really intrigued by Hexa. the BC20 is such a flexy, comfy frame i can afford to go w/ stiffer strings. i'll share my impressions of Hexa after i try it. while i'm at it ordering Hexa, i may as well try a set of Spin Monster, too. your feedback has convinced me to give it a shot. thanks again. :)
     
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