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  1. mad dog1

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    unfortunately that's par for the course on this board, man...people questioned me when i liked Iontec. people questioned me when i said L-Tec 0S/4S was OK. people questioned my when i said BHBR didn't work for me.
     
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  2. mixedmedia

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    I don't remember people questioning you about Iontec in the same way they did about L-TEC or BHBR; Iontec was in a truly inquisitive manner and BHBR was only by one person. :)

    But, yup, that's the nature of discussion, of course.
     
  3. alidisperanza

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    HA. I was using/ still would use Gaucho!!!

    Yes, I'm sorry, let me qualify that. The majority of multis as a cross are garbage especially with respect to gut. I love what you do, Mike, but I simply can't get behind that bandwagon. The only multis I can play are the ones that have some sort of outer-coating. They stick too much to my mains and only let me hit flat :(

    I had no clue what you were talking about when you suggested iontec the first time, gave it a shot on a whim because they had free shipping and here I am having a reel arrive tomorrow. go figure
     
  4. mikeler

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    ^^^ You must be using the wrong multis as crosses then...
     
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    Perhaps we can make Iontec the new forum favorite? My Iontec black and Supra will be here Monday (thanks Ray!), so I can give the black my full opinion. The salmon was fantastic.
     
  6. Ramon

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    How comfortable is Iontec? Are there other popular strings that would compare to it? Also, how well does it hold tension?
     
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  7. mikeler

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    I think it is time for the world's first plaid string.


    Uh oh, this is what polys do. They keep sucking you back in. :)
     
  8. mad dog1

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    i find Iontec very comfortable - one of the most comfortable if not the most comfortable polys around. the performance characteristics of Iontec are alot like Technifibre Red Code only more comfortable, more feel, and better pocketing. and yes, it holds tension quite well.
     
  9. alidisperanza

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    I would love for you to prove me wrong :) Or rather, change my mind
     
  10. Wuppy

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    So I just strung up my K-Surge with Black Mamba 20 minutes ago. It definitely gives a certain bad-*ss look to the racquet but man, that stuff is like piano wire it's so stiff. Every weave was a hard weave. Looking forward to seeing how it plays ;)
     
  11. swfh

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    So, I chose to get the hexa 1.25. Just strung it up,and I will report tomorrow. Stringing it up was strange. It needed a lot less slack on my klippermate, and stretched more than bhbr.
     
  12. mad dog1

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    if you're weaving your crosses one ahead, every weave shouldn't be a hard weave. if you're not doing this, you should give it a try.

    not holding my breath since you are the same person who proclaimed that all polys feel and play the same. ;)

    .
     
  13. nadalex

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    enjoy

    10 char
     
  14. Wuppy

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    I can barely tell the difference between poly and nylon! :shock:

    I have my other Surge strung up with "TAAN" poly though it's getting loose now. :p
     
  15. alidisperanza

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    There is truly no hope for you...I'd rather string with twine than that stuff.
     
  16. fortun8son

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    Mamba can't be much worse than ZoTwist16 to string.
    Cut the tie on that and it jumps out of your hand and runs down the hall laughing.
     
  17. Wuppy

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    Well I played with BM and it plays great, feels remarkably like all other poly to me though :p

    We'll see how long it lasts. All polys die -- or rather, turn into trampolines -- after about 3-4 hours of play or a week sitting in my bag, whichever comes first, for me. :(
     
  18. mad dog1

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    i just strung up a hybrid of Thunderstrings TRIANGLE 3VOLUTION/Thunderstrings QU4TTRO in a PK Black Ace 95 (18x19 pattern) at 44/44#s. i must say, Triangle 3volution is the most unruly string i have ever dealt with. the coil memory of this was just abominable! hopefully it plays well because this took some serious effort to string up. Iontec Hexa 1.20 in the Black Ace 95 at 49/51# played amazingly well. the spin, heaviness and power were effortless. the feel of the thin ItH was just amazing in this stick. looking forward to seeing how this Thunderstrings hybrid performs in this stick.
     
  19. instantrice1

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    I have emailed Mamba Tennis twice two weeks ago (from 2 different emails because I thought one might have been counted as spam) and they haven't replied back. Didn't 99% of the people say that one of their best characteristics was great customer service?
     
  20. mad dog1

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    i usually receive a reply to my emails within 1 day. maybe they had some emergency. :confused:
     
  21. MambaT

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    Hi, I am very sorry if we missed something. I am not aware of any questions that have not been addressed, but I don't have your contact information, so it is difficult to check.

    We do get a lot of emails that say something like "Hey, can I have some free string?" and it can be the most polite thing to just let those go without response. I think that we are very generous with samples, but sometimes it depends on how we are asked.

    Please try again and put your TW screen name in the message and I will be on the look out for it.
     
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    Iontec Hexa 1.25

    I just played with the ith 1.25 for 2.5 hours. All I can say is WOW!!!
    Compared to my go to string, bhbr, i think that this is better overall.

    Groundstrokes: With bhbr, the spin is off the charts, but it does not penetrate the court. ith has less spin, but the ball goes through the court more; it doesn't sit up.

    Volleys: i agree with what everyone is saying. the feel with these strings if amazing for a poly. I was able to to put away volleys, and the ball felt like it stayed on my racket for hours.

    Serves: this is where i saw the biggest improvement in my game. There was a lot of power on my serves, and I was able to place the ball where I wanted. There was plenty of kick as well.

    I strung this as 48 cp, and it makes me wonder how the 1.20 would play in my 4d 300 tour (18x20). I liked what i have already, but should I go lower?
     
  23. mad dog1

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    ^^ glad you like ItH 1.25. i encourage you to give Iontec 1.25 a try now. :) even more feel. :D It and ItH are the real deal. but even so, it's not a string for everyone. some may find it too soft.

    compared to BHBR? what can i say other than it's just not a fair comparison. you don't bring a knife to a gun fight. ;) although i can see where BHBR can work well with the right hybrid string in the right racquet setup.
     
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  24. tomseek

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    Hi, Mad dog,

    Would you say that It Black 1.20 mm has more or less power than the MSV CoFocus 1.18 mm? The reason I ask is b/c I play with CoFocus as a cross at 48# and am hoping you can give me some guidance on string tension for ItB.

    After reading your high praise for ItB, I decided to order some ItB. Now, the ItB is at my door, so I am just waiting for some input from you, if you've played with CoFocus.

    Tom
     
  25. swfh

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    I would, but I need the spin. Think I can still get it?
     
  26. nalvarado

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    I also sent you an email around a week ago but it seems it did not go through. Not a big deal as it was about acura control and mikeler is apparently testing it in the future.
     
  27. BlxTennis

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    I just strung up Mamba Supra Natura gut main(59lbs) and Iontec cross(57lbs) on my BLX Tour 90(16x19). I got the Supra 16G but it seems to be larger than 16G in some area. In some section, it had a difficult time pulling through the grommet. And when it did get through, I can see it started to fray a little(Strands getting loose in that area). In any case, it took longer than stringing any multi or poly. I hope I get to play with it next week and report back.
     
  28. mad dog1

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    hi tom, i've only tried CoFocus Hex before when it came already strung in a racquet that i picked up. i subsequently strung up the stick w/ ItB 1.25 and felt the power levels were about the same.
     
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  29. mikeler

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    And you can thank Ray for the playtest to come.
     
  30. nalvarado

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    Haha, I figured he was behind the quick change of heart! Thanks Ray!(and Mikeler)
     
  31. TLy963

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    How is the tension maintenance of the normal black mamba compared to iontec?
     
  32. mad dog1

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    i'm not a big fan of structured shaped strings and even less of a fan when twisted. never had good success because they take away alot of feel. when i lose feel, i lose control so i actually went into this playtest w/ very low expectations.

    while triangle 3volution was the most stubborn string i have EVER strung, at least it well worth the effort. even at 44#s, it was very low powered, so i was able to take huge cuts at the ball without worrying about hitting long. talk about easy access to spin...whoah. with the massive amounts of spin the twisted triangle shaped mains generates, i could smack the ball really hard and they'd still drop inside the baseline. what surprised me was that i could feel what the string bed was doing. tonight was an abbreviated session so i only spent about 30 mins w/ it but i'm very impressed so far. also comfort was quite good for such a stiff cross string. i had previously tried qu4ttro in the vantage BC20 (16x19) in a full bed in the low 50# and found it very stiff but at 44# in the tighter string pattern Black Ace 95 (18x19) hybrid'd w/ this triangle 3volution, it wasn't overly stiff at all. at will be sure to provide updates on tension maintenance and durability.
     
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  33. mad dog1

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    from my experience, iontec holds tension better.
     
  34. pvaudio

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    MUAHAHAHA! Out for delivery: Iontec Black and Supra Gut :D :D :D
     
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    Microfibre is a very very good multi. Great stuff. I need more time with it, but it does not match a gut/poly setup so will not be overtaking that setup.

    The gut poly is just very predictable for me. The way the ball comes off the strings is very the same everytime and the spin is incredible.

    The microfibre has very nice feel and plays well, but I am spoiled.

    Supra gut will be next after my pacific classic breaks.
     
  36. mad dog1

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    PP, i recommend you try Thunderstring QU4TTRO as the poly cross w/ your gut mains. it's very crisp which i think is something that would match up well for you.
     
  37. heartattack

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    Love those mamba dampener giveaways.. performs better than any other dampeners stuff i tried b4. thanks Ray!
     
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    I don't like crisp in the PDR though. I love cofocus since it is soft. I had a crisp setup with tourbite and NVY when I got the racquet and I hated it.
     
  39. mikeler

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    May have to give the gut poly another go once you try out the Supra with Co-focus.
     
  40. mad dog1

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    TB (stiff & crunchy) + N.Vy (crisp) = stiff, crunchy, & crisp (crisp overload). :mrgreen:

    Gut (soft) + Qu4ttro (stiff & crisp) = soft to offset some of the stiff & crisp (perfect) :cool:

    that's my thought. :)
     
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    mad dog, its not a bad thought, but that string is $15, which is way more than I want to spend on a cross..especially with cofocus out there.

    Mikeler, I really think you will love it. I will post impressions on the supra. So far I have used VSTouch, Pacific Classic and loved both.
     
  42. mikeler

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    What kind of durability are you getting out of that setup?
     
  43. Power Player

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    I am on hour 12 so far. I am hoping for 16-20 hours which is what I got out of it when I had the 6.1 95 and string savers.

    I have played 2 hours on clay, the rest on hard court.
     
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    but how much worse/ of a difference is black mamba in this aspect?
     
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    Ray: YOU GOT MAIL!

    Ray, I sent you an email re: Storm Metal / Quattro.
     
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    Can anyone comment on a hybrid of iontec black(1.20)/ ogsm 17 or normal black mamba(1.23)/ ogsm17 compared to a full bed of the poly?
    (tension stability, playability, what tension?) THANKS
     
  48. mad dog1

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    sorry, just saw this...i haven't compared ItB and CoFocus side by side. i had them in my Yonex RDiS 100 MP at different times and felt that they seemed to be pretty close in power levels. CoFocus may have a tad more. i would recommend the same tension or 1# lower for ItB. i've been stringing iontec at 46# for a 85 sq in racquet, 48-51# for a 95 sq in racquet and 54-57# in a 98-107 on a electronic constant pull machine.
     
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  49. mad dog1

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    Hexa gives me a tad bit more spin, but i feel i get enough spin w/ the regular Iontec already.
     
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    i've now got about 4 hours on this hybrid and the mains have started moving all over the place, but surprisingly enough, it's still generating a ton of spin. the mains have notched about 1/3 of the way through now. i estimate that i'll get about 6-8 hours total before the mains snap, but since i'm still able to get very good control and excellent spin, i'll continue hitting with this.

    hit again w/ this string bed for about 1.5 more hours bringing the total play time up to ~5.5 hours now. mains are moving even more now. spin is still good, but doesn't jump as much after the bounce. mains are notched almost 1/2 way through. overall the string bed is feeling pretty dead even though it remains playable.
     
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