Man Of Steel (2013)

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  1. VAMOSDNA

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    Most of the film is on Earth but don't be surprised if 20-30 minutes is on Krypton at the beginning (and the film's running time is 148 minutes). That's what I've been told. This is like a biopic that explains everything, and that includes Jor-El and Zod and the history of why Zod cares about Kal-El. Remember the first Superman film began on Krypton. So will Man Of Steel, and this will be a lot more detailed about the relationship between Jor-El and Zod and there will be a lot of action on Krypton. Just because they don't have 'powers' on Krypton it doesn't mean they won't be killing each other. Man Of Steel will be all about action, because Warner Bros ordered this reboot because Superman Returns didn't have enough action. And Snyder's Man Of Steel has no relationship with the Donner universe. Krypton is at war when Kal-El is sent to Earth, and Zod's eventual threat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QkfmqsDTgY will be based on the war between Jor-El and Zod. It won't be a simple case of the Phantom Zone. You can see the Superman symbol in Zod's video-
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    It will do until PACIFIC RIM comes out!!!!! That will be the movie of the Summer!
     
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    Wow, a 70% on Rotton Tomatoes?

    It was labeled a 'Generic Blockbuster'?

    Dammit Snyder!!

    I guess I better go see the movie myself..
     
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    I'm going to see it,,, Marvel comics were my favorite though
     
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    No doubt...Pacific Rim is a must-see for me. I loved giant robots when I was a kid - can't wait to see how this looks in a live action film with modern film effects. Honestly I don't care if the characters aren't developed or the dialogue sucks, etc etc. It'll be a riot just to see my childhood toys in action up on the big screen

    although I have to say the title makes me think of an asian p*rn flick...
     
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    If nothing else I'll have to RedBox it in a month or three.
     
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    I think the superhero genre is en route to an inevitable over-saturation.
     
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    getting tired of seeing cities destroyed non stop for 30-40 mins to end these types of movies(Transformers, Avengers etc)
    Boring.
     
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    Wait, Snyder is the guy behind Sucker Punch?

    Never mind, I'll wait until it releases on Netflix during November/December.

    For goodness sake, when can we ever see a DECENT Superman film?
     
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    I saw it last night. I'm puzzled how more than 50% of the critics are giving this postive reviews. This was not even a so-so movie. This was a god-awful movie with terrible script, terrible directing, pointless action scenes with plenty of punches thrown against unpunchables characters. Also, how come when bullets bounce off the person you're shooting at, the shooter is dumb enough to reload and keep shooting bullets. Multiple times in the movie this happened. I want my money back. The only good thing about the movie is that this will launch Cavill as a big star - will probably be the next Bond.
     
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    Irony: Superman's motto was: To fight for Truth, Justice, & The American Way. However, Cavill is British?

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    * There's nothing wrong with UK actors.
     
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    Irony: Superman's motto was: To fight for Truth, Justice, & The American Way. However, Cavill is British?

    :confused:

    * There's nothing wrong with UK actors.
     
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    Close enough really. Brits are pretty much North Americans with funny accents
     
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    it is remake but apparently the special effects saves the day. Greatest Superman movie ever made, states many critics.
     
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    Eh... not really. Try and tell a British person that and see how they react.

    :roll:
     
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    No, it doesn't. Advanced CGI doesn't make a good movie.

    The best Superman film in all technical areas is Superman 2.
     
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    I thought it wasn't bad, saw it last night. The part on Krypton was actually pretty cool, that was never really explored in the previous films.

    With that being said, the second to last scene wasn't needed at all, Snyder just HAD to make a little political statement.
     
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    The guys who made Battleship would argue with you. lol
     
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    American are Brits with funny accents, we came first ;)

    If anything it's closer to an Australian accent.
     
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    MAN OF STEEL set a new June record.
    MAN OF STEEL also set a new Father's Day record.
    MAN OF STEEL is the most successful origin ever.

    U.S. OPENING WEEKEND-
    Man Of Steel $116.7million (and if you include Thursday 7pm-midnight, its $128.7million)
    Spider-man $114.8million
    Iron Man $98.6million
    Thor $65.7million
    The Amazing Spider-man $62million
    Batman Begins $48.7million

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    Yeah, Micheal Bay copycats. :)
     
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    Nolan produced this? Wow, that's sad.

    They will make sequels because of how much they made. Such crap.
     
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    We are lucky Nolan didn't direct MOS. Did you see how pathetic the fight scenes were in his Batman trilogy? He knows his limitations, and wisely brought in Snyder.

    MOS is the greatest spectacle I've ever seen in my life. First film I've ever given 10/10.

    And I'd only ever give one film 9/10.

    Man Of Steel 10/10
    Black Swan 9/10
     
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    Ok giving Black Swan a 9/10 is nuts!!!!! That should disqualify you from EVER reviewing any film again!

    MOS was awesome..........loved the darker tone and Cavill is the perfect Kal El........

    I hated those Donner Supes movies from the late 70s - early 80s - campy junk.
     
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  28. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I thought giving Man of Steel 10/10 would disqualify him from ever reviewing another film.

    Don't get me wrong, I was entertained by the movie, but 10/10? Please. For one, I was thoroughly annoyed by all the flashback scenes throughout the movie. Dedicate an entire sequence for it, but not every other 15minutes. I thought it just killed the rhythm and flow of the movie.

    The Dragon Ball Z inspired fight scenes were entertaining, but the end was very un-Superman like. He doesn't kill, period.
     
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    Even Doomsday?
     
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  30. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    hmmm, you have a point there. But I was just shocked at the way he killed. It was assassin-like?

    Anyway, back to my original point: Man of Steel is not a 10/10 movie.
     
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    See I disagree - I thought the whole scene was great! What he did and why with the follow up is perfect. Remember his reaction to what he did - he did what he had to.

    I always hated the wussy Superman..........this man of steel has cajones (great big steel ones!)
     
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    Fair enough, I thought his "reaction" had overacting written all over it though.

    Although I don't think this was a 10/10 movie, it was entertaining nonetheless. And I particularly enjoyed the Krypton part and Russell Crowe as Jor-El.

    Now for the sequel, no more interrupting flashbacks every 15mins please.
     
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    No. Cavill is not the best Superman.

    Cavill is the male Kristen Stewart. There's no emotion in his performance. Also, there was no chemistry between Lois and Superman.

    Uh... the 70s and 80s had to work what they had...

    The CGI crapfest from Transformers/Iron Man/ Battleship doesn't always work.

    The dialogue was baffling. S doesn't stand for Superman?

    The multiple biblical allusions during the movie was a clear message by Snyder & Co. that they believed this movie was going to be epic... but it wasn't. Another generic Superhero film that was over-saturated in plot development & action sequences.
     
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    I thought it was a harsh 4/10. Even Crowe couldn't save this mess.
     
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    ^^ Letterman already clarified this. The "S" on his suit stands for "suit."
     
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    If you read the comics, Superman always hold back from using all of his power in a fight.

    In this film, he was not portrayed correctly.
     
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    Ya, that's the knock on most movies of this genre. Too much plot development.
     
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    If plot development turns you off, you can always go see monster trucks crushing volkswagens.
     
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    Mmhm.

    I just hope Snyder takes the criticisms from fans and critics and fix these issues in the next movie.

    Irony: Superman Return was slammed because it was boring, Man of Steel was slammed because it turned into a Bay film.
     
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    You misunderstood my point. There were plot holes as big as the Bermuda Triangle.

    There's nothing wrong with plot development, they simply didn't explain alot of things during the film.

    I wanted a scene where dozens of scientists try to study & explain Superman's Kryptonian physiology, but NOPE!
     
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  41. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    That's what I thought too. Superman believes there is good in everyone, so he never finishes off an enemy. On top of that, he's always distracted in fights because he needs to deal with collateral damage as well.

    He'd punch a fool, then catch someone falling off of a building, and then gets blasted by a bad guy while he's trying to save an insignificant innocent civilian.

    Lastly, he doesn't kill an enemy like an assassin would.
     
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    Wait a second. You guys are serious? Superman is what passes for "too intense plot development" these days?

    I haven't seen the movie, but is this "plot development" something like the "plot development" in Lord of the Rings, etc? ("Oh no, it the Orks....now its the trolls....oh crap, its the Orks again.......(9 hours elapase)......Christ, still more stupid Orks").
     
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    I know Superman can't save everyone, but he did alot of boneheaded decisions during the film ( kissing Lois while surrounded by wreckage while thousands die).

    Another dumb scene: Enemies were shooting Superman ( he doesn't get hit) and they reload!!
     
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    Snyder basically TRIED to develop the film as an epic like LoTR.

    Seriously, there were scenes when Superman was portrayed as Christ. He was trying that hard.
     
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    I was not pleased with the development (actually, the lack of) between Superman and Lois.
     
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    Yeah, Amy Adams was a waste.
     
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  47. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I'm ok with Amy Adams as Lois, I just had a problem with her relationship with Clark/Superman.

    Superman in the comic spends his lifetime living through his alter ego of Clark Kent, and hides the side of Kal-El. Lois finds out after three 5minutes meetings.

    Superman puts considerable thoughts into having a relationship with Lois in the comic, fearing that his life as Superman/Kal-El would put her in danger. He tries to hit that after three 5minutes meetings as you stated.
     
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    guess it didn't take long to change your mind about seeing it.
     
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    Have you read LoTR? Asking because, "orcs" is probably the easiest of 4-letter words to spell :) .

    BTW, orcs are the descendents of elves that were corrupted by Morgoth many hundreds of years before the LoTR story began. There's some plot development for you, but it's in a book you haven't read ;) .
     
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    Meh, I'll wait for the movie. :)

    I tried to read the books in Jr. High but just couldn't get interested.

    I didn't see the movies until earlier this year (and I really wish I hadn't wasted my time). I seriously thought my DVR was stuck in an endless loop, showing the same scene over and over (and over.....)
     
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