Mantis Comfort Synthetic vs. Premium multis

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  1. Boricua

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    Just got a set of MCS to use as a cross string.

    Without considering price, how does this string compare as cross string with premium multis such as Excel Premium, NXT Tour and Biphase?

    Does MCS have the same quality as the strings mentioned or is it just good and cheaper?
     
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  2. BreakPoint

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    MCS is a premium multi. Just about the most premium and highest quality multi I've ever used.

    When it comes to strings, price is totally irrelevant.
     
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  3. tennisinoc

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    There is a saying that goes something like: "another man's garbage is another man's treasure"

    And Mantis Comfort Synthetic is MY Garbage. I would not even use this string if it was given to me for free. I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt, but after trying 3 sets, the conclusion and result were the same. Horrible durability of ANY string I have ever played with. And this is including basic Nylon strings. Each time the string cracked within 20 minutes of playing. I would not put it in the same category of Biphase or Xcel.

    But this is just my experience and opinion.
     
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  4. MavsTennis

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    I have a reel of Mantis Comfort synthetic and love it. One of the best I've played with.

    And I'll have to agree with Breakpoint about the price not equaling to quality. You have strings like Gosen OG Micro that sells for ~$2 a set from a reel that beats strings that cost up to 7-8 times more.
     
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  5. BreakPoint

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    When I talk about "quality" and "premium", I'm strictly referring to the feel and playability. MCS just feels like a premium high quality string. I don't really care about durability since I'm not a string breaker and I string for myself. Some high quality and premium polys like Luxilon also die within a couple of hours so it's the same difference.
     
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  6. fgs

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    tennisinoc,
    i have no problem whatsoever with you not liking the mcs. strings are very personal as they directly relate to "feel" and therefore YES, one man's treasure is another one's garbage.
    i find it quite peculiar though that you state a durability of 20 minutes! i have suggested this string (as a cross to round poly) to some futures players, lads that really are quite athletical and do really hit the ball, moresothey tend to hit a rather spinny ball as they are coming from clay, and without exception they got a heavy hitting training session out of the string, this being 1.5 hrs.
    the string is definitely not a very durable one, which i can confirm, personally (and i'm 47) i "only" get about 7 hrs of play out of it, but 20 minutes is something i have big difficulties to believe.
     
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  7. mikeler

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    It's a great cross string to soften up poly mains. I was getting about 12 hours of match play before it would break. As a full job, I'd get about 5 hours out of it. Just don't use it as a main string with some other stiffer cross because you may be lucky to get 2 hours out of it.
     
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  8. Power Player

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    I hate multis..really do..but MCS is an incredible one. I love the feel of it, and it makes strings like NXT feel like total garbage to me.

    The durability is not that great, but as a cross string MCS is an ideal option if you need to soften the string bed more than a syn gut can do.
     
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  9. parasailing

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    I guess we are in the minority on this particular string. I hate the strong chemical smell of the string and thought it was just average compared to X1 and Xcel Power.
     
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  10. mikeler

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    That gluey smell is awesome, guess you did not sniff enough of it. :)
     
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  11. tennisexecutor

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    i fall into the same camp as this fella insofar as the durability of mcs is concerned. i wasn't able to get more than roughly 45 minutes of playing time before it snapped on me. however i only ever tried mcs as a cross in a poly hybrid.
     
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  12. fgs

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    what mains did you use?
    i have played it with round mains, poly of course, and if you use a very rough poly i can imagine that you go through it in 45 minutes of really heavy hitting (but then you should be at a really high level of playing so you get truly a lot of repetitions in that time span).
    i haven't tried it with any rough or shaped ones, but some time soon i'll do so.
     
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  13. tennisexecutor

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    genesis black magic and wc b5e. both strung at 24/27 kilos in an open 16x19 98 sq. in. frame.
     
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  14. BreakPoint

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    Polys will saw through just about any multi like a hot knife through butter. I would never hybrid a poly with a multi.
     
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  15. mikeler

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    I'm getting about 12 hours out of MCS as a cross. Something tells me this is a guy that hits REALLY hard. My game is more spinny.
     
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  16. Up&comer

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    I thought it smelled more like crayola water paints that came in those little trays. It was so nostalgic.
     
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  17. archman

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    I love MCS. I tried many of the more common synthetics as a cross with SPPP and decided to go with MCS for the softness.
     
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  18. tennisinoc

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    I tried both Mantis Polys (Comfort & Power), they are both round, and the Comfort Synthetic was coming apart within the 1/2 hour.
    (And I am not a string breaker)
    Using X-1, NRG or Xcel, I can get about 10-12 hours of play.
     
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  19. MavsTennis

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    I did notice a weird scent to the MSC.
    String durability doesnt really bother me that much. I'm not much of a string breaker and I actually enjoy stringing my racquets now that I've learned to.
     
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  20. whomad15

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    odd scent... hmmm... I got an ignite off of someone here in the classifieds and the frame smelled a bit like turtle wax. It was strung with MCS, perhaps it was the string I was smelling then.
    Didn't mind the smell at all here.
     
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  21. rufusbgood

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    Agree.

    I picked up 3 sets of MCS 16 recently. The first set lasted me 2 hrs which is about the worst I have ever experienced. Even TNT 17 lasted 3 hrs. I have 2 more sets to go but I think it's unlikely I will putting them in my own racquets.
     
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  22. Winners or Errors

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    Exactly why I am looking at MCS threads... Can you offer a review? I find SPPP a bit harsh full-bed or with synthetic gut crosses, but I love the spin and control.
     
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  23. gsuede

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    MCS was nothing special i would use NRG or MF. Maybe all these guys own Mantis because I used it for one hour and it felt soft but had no other good qualities
     
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    Most people tend to really like or really hate MCS and RIP Control. I recommended MCS to 2 locals and neither of them liked it. To me, NRG2 was quite underwhelming for the price. MF is a better multi but lasted me 1 set less than MCS usually lasted. MCS is one of the few low powered and incredibly soft strings. Those 2 qualities are hard to find together. If you need durability, this is not the string for you.
     
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  25. gsuede

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    I have been following your reviews thanks so much for doing them but Mantis and NRG is the only place we differ. I guess thats why they make so many strings because we all feel something different and we all play different. I will try mantis again I used to use weiss cannon and I dont think its the same string color and thickness is different but they both use the resin which is why they smell the same.
     
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  26. mikeler

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    Are you sure it was Mantis Comfort and not Mantis Power?
     
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    I thought Mantis Comfort played okay, but I'm used to a 17 gauge string---for some reason, MCS only comes in a 16. So I'm sticking with TF MultiFeel 17.
     
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  28. gsuede

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    Yes positive have the wrapper in front of me.
     
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  29. mikeler

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    Interesting stuff. There are times when softer strings do bother my elbow more but definitely not with MCS.
     
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  30. Up&comer

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    Yeah like mikeler said, mcs is both soft and low powered, which can feel kind of awkward. However, it is a very good string, but I like more pop from my multis.

    I like it as a cross, but in any other circumstance it isn't good for me.
     
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  31. The Big Kahuna

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    I played with Techinifibre NrG and X-1 Biphase and Wilson NXT for years and I loved Mantis Comfort as a cross string when I went to a poly/multi hybrid a year or so ago. It feels more like gut than any other multi I have hit with.

    According to MANTIS, Comfort Synthetic has been specifically developed to provide a soft string with gut like feel and playability whilst the special double coating enhances durability. Thousands of micro fibres are compressed and then nano coated to provide a core with superb feel. This is covered with highly durable monofilaments before the string is coated by a special elastic resin bonding process.

    It's a bargain at $9.00 a set.
     
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  32. 86golf

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    String smells like Lysol but plays ok. Not sure why all the love for this string, but like others say, string is personal. My personal take is that the performance is in line with the price.
     
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  33. fortun8son

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    I think it smells like a freshly opened Band-Aid.
    Low powered AND comfortable is hard to find and I don't think any multi can be considered durable.
    Of course NXT and X-1 Biphase are superior playing strings.
    After driving the Audi, it's hard to go back to the Toyota.
     
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  34. mikeler

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    Totally agree with this post. Gut like softness with low power, name another string that does this. Durability is poor but you can't expect everything from a value priced string.
     
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    Since I got burned by that bad batch of TF Multifeel recently, I'm now hooked on Mantis Comfort. Even when it's fraying and about to break, it still plays great. I just bought a reel of it.
     
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  36. mikeler

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    I bought a reel of it when I was coming back from an elbow injury. Even in reel form, it does not last long for me but man you can't beat the comfort.
     
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  37. fortun8son

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    I have a number of older clients who are more concerned with comfort and price than painting the lines.
    MCS works well for them and if they need more power, I use Fibergel Power.
    No complaints yet. Durability is not really an issue for them.
     
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  38. GS

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    And I'm a picky guy who's used to a 17 gauge string! But Mantis Comfort is a 16, and I have no complaints. (No, it doesn't look like a 17 when it's strung up---maybe like a 16L.)
     
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    I hated the MCS, I strung it on my AST GT at 54 LBS, and it was still stiff! WTF?! I normally use Technifibre X-1 Biphase 17G at 54LBS and it's perfect.... I recommend you using MPS (Mantis Power Synthetic)... it was so much better than the MCS....
     
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    It looks very close to 17 strung up. I'm sure measured it is likely 16L.
     
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  41. Up&comer

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    Huh. I have never heard MCS be described as anything close to stiff. I find it very interesting you thought so.
     
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  42. Frankc

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    Recently strung MCS and seemed quite unique to me - very soft and stretchy on a drop weight. Reminded me on some last generation BlueStar (Fibregut) that I enjoyed before it was phased out.

    In a 18X20, mid sized, relatively soft frame, it plays uniquely for me. Play a flat game with old school grips and much variety - very lively, great feel, and great ball pocketing - alot of what i call controlled string power. Many hours later - playing well - tad less tension but string has lessened in zip - so, it evens out. Very impressed - easy power and comfort... for this neutral grip swinger...
     
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  43. fortun8son

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    This thread was started in July and we haven't heard back from the OP.
    Think he got his answer?
     
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  44. Frankc

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    Months later - Back to MCS, in a full bed, I switched back to vintage, smaller frames and the MCS came along for the ride gladly. For this neutral gripped player, a full bed, was durable, consistent, and nicely lively in a smaller modern frame at 58 lbs or so - a great string. Well, it shines brightly in a softer vintage frame at 50 lbs or so... Just great feel and life in a quality multi... In both cases the liveliness is great in low powered frames - imho, may not be a good match for open patterned frames and more extreme gripped, higher swing speed games as a full bed...
     
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  45. SteveI

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    Great Price/Performer....:). I can get reels for a great price.. and the string plays very soft and with great control. I string for myself.. so I can re-string anytime.. so not an issue for string breakage.. and I am not the string breaker.
     
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