Mantis PRO 295

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  1. Anton

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    Haven't played with rad mg 100 in a long time but similar in that big string bed feel, 295 is much more maneuverable and better feeling though.
     
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  2. Anton

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    I used it just fine at about 12oz :)
     
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  3. mrmo1115

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    Has anyone tried the 315? Opinions and any racquets that play similarly to it?
     
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  4. crosscourt

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    I play the 315. An excellent racket, very comfortable, fantastic control, does eveything. The only downside is that it is a low powered trad players racket. Closest comparison is a Dunlop 200 or Head Prestige MP.
     
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  5. mrmo1115

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    Does the frame have its own special feel? For example Donnay having its own unique feel and although specs might be ideal, it might not be for everyone. Is there that special Mantis feel that is unique to everything else? Spec wise the 315 looks fantastic
     
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  6. Anton

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    All Mantis I tried have a great feel to them and I'm yet to hear differently from anyone else - smooth, clean feel.
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    But the stock strung spec is only 11.1 oz. so you would have to add a heck of a lot of lead to get it up to 12.0 oz. I would probably have to add enough weight to get it up to at least 12.5 oz. for it to work for me. I demoed the Mantis Tour 315 and thought it was WAY, WAY too light.
     
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  8. Anton

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    But with that comes full range of weight distribution and balance customization you do not get with other rackets.

    It takes all of maybe 20 min to put the lead on if you have to take off the base grip - I don't see what the big deal is.
     
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  9. BreakPoint

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    I prefer not to have to play around with lead tape. It just seems silly to me to have to tack on layers upon layers of lead tape everywhere just to make a racquet playable. (And not to even mention the risk of lead poisoning.) Why can't they just make a racquet that's already heavy stock like they used to?
     
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  10. Anton

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    Well I like that shiny metal look and majority of lead can be placed under grommets and under grip.
     
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  11. crosscourt

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    I agree. I couldn't describe it though. It is softer, like a Head or Dunlop, than the typical Wilson feel.
     
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  12. TeamHumphrey

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    I haven't played with the Mantis 305 (or the Head Radical MG). I find the racquet to be comfortable, but I haven't tinkered with it enough to give you a ruling on the spin-potential. I finally cut out the string and replaced with a gut/poly hybrid, so I am getting closer to a verdict.
     
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  13. TeamHumphrey

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    With a leather grip, some tacky gum in the trap door, string, and an overgrip, it weighs ~334g (and is something like 10pts headlight) -- just add some head protection tape and you are at 12 oz with no lead required.
     
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  14. Tilde of Destruction

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    I ordered one about a week ago and it finally came in yesterday. I'm having a scrimmage/practice match against another high school today and I can't wait to try it out. Currently have it strung with some Yonex Poly Tour Pro 125 (16L gauge) at 55 pounds.
     
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  16. Tilde of Destruction

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    Well, I got to play with the 295 a bit today and I have to say that I really like it. I currently have it strung with some Yonex Poly Tour Pro 125 (1.25mm/16L gauge) at 55 pounds and it's the perfect racquet for me. Like most have said about Mantis racquets, it has a very crisp, clean feel and it's really easy to control where the ball is going. I felt that my shots became much more consistent compared to the old junior sized Wilson racquet I last used a few years ago (the strings on it move way too much and the tension of the string is too low).
     
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  17. counterpuncher

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    This seems to have disappeared from TW. Not sure if it wasn't selling well or just had a limited release?

    Got to hit with one briefly the other night and I must say, for 295g it is very stable. Along with my usual 310g - 320g (unstrung) racquets I have a couple in the 285g - 300g range and this beat those easily for stability, including a PS 100 (with leather) and a Pure Storm Team (with leather), which I think are great for the weight class.

    Serves were good with it, response was crisp, spin was good and maneuverability great. I'll be adding some lead tape to get some more power and stability and see how it compares with the racquets in my preferred spec range (310g - 320g unstrung, 325'ish SW and 6 - 8 HL).
     
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  19. luishcorreia

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    A friend has one of those. A few weeks ago I hit some balls with it. Really nice feel. The frame looks great. Great cosmetics. It has a muted feel, but in a nice way. I was very impressed. Needs more weight. 310g unstrung would be perfect
     
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  20. BreakPoint

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    Still way too light. At least 330g unstrung at a minimum before I consider it. :shock:
     
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  21. cluckcluck

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    So put some lead on it. I've found with most Mantis sticks, they're all mostly a great foundation for customization.
     
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  22. BreakPoint

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    Then why not just get a heavier racquet to begin with and avoid the risk of lead poisoning?

    Besides, adding tons of lead tape all over the racquet to get it up to where I like it would ruin that nice paintjob.
     
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    All you have to do is thoroughly wash your hands with soap.

    That is a nice paint job though.
     
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  24. counterpuncher

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    Leather grip + overgrip would get the ball rolling on adding weight.

    I need to check the butt cap to see if it's foam filled, as silicone / putty / lead inside the handle might be another option, before adding lead to the hoop. Mine is over spec on the swing weight, as it feels about 315, so I won't be adding much to the hoop, as it'll take it too far out of my preferred spec.
     
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  25. cluckcluck

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    Problem solved: http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage-BBALTAPE.html?from=this

    Tungsten Tape.
     
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  26. cluckcluck

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    Yes the chambers are hollow (no foam).
     
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  27. counterpuncher

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    Thanks checked mine last night and found packaging foam in one of the chambers. I'll have to inspect further and see if anything has been shoved underneath it, as it was proving difficult to remove because of the butt cap staples.

    I also confirmed that it has a pallet system. I might take off the butt cap and see if the dimensions are close to Head pallets, as I have some TK82s pallets in my grip size that might get a run.
     
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  28. snoopy

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    I had a demo a while back and it also had foam in one chamber. Good racquet.
     
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  29. TeamHumphrey

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    I have added loctite putty in the handle of mine.
     
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  30. Tilde of Destruction

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    I've noticed that too. I was eyeing it for a bit after purchasing mine. I was just hoping it's only out of stock since it's a great racquet.

    Agreed. It's a bit light.

    At first, I wasn't used to the racquet since the last one I used was around 8 ounces light which is ridiculously light. Now that I've gotten somewhat used to it, it feels pretty light.

    As for the muted part, I feel that it's a bit too muted but at the same time my strings have broken in a bit and I've noticed that I have them strung at a tension a bit low that I'd like. At first, 55 pounds was fine for my strings (Yonex Poly Tour Pro 1.25mm) but it began to lose tension quickly since one of my friends hits very, very hard and I'd give it around 3-4 hours of use every single day (high school tennis these days). Thinking about getting it restrung with the same string at 60 pounds or going with Yonex Poly Tour Spin at something like 45-50 pounds.
     
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  31. Tilde of Destruction

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    Seems the Tour 305 is gone too.
     
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  32. counterpuncher

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    Okay so I confirmed that the hairpin is close enough to a Head racquet that you can use Head pallets.

    I took off the L3 pallet and put in place a set of L2 TK82S pallets. The only issue is that I've seemed to have lost 5 grams in doing so.

    I'll have to play with the weight a bit, but a leather grip, over grip and some lead at 12 will be my first trial.
     
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  33. Anton

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    wow awesome, so head pallets fit mantis rackets.
     
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  34. tennisegg

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    Sort of a shame if TW stops selling Mantis rackets... I got a Tour 315 recently and like it a lot. Great option for those looking for a lighter player's stick, especially for the price.
     
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  35. Tilde of Destruction

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    Agreed. I also wish they would start carrying Mantis's new replacement grips. I love their overgrips, possibly a bit better than Yonex Super Grap.
     
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  36. luishcorreia

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    I got mine today. Will post photos tommorow. Im n the ipad now. Does anyone know how I can upload photos from the ipad!

    Anyway, i weighted the racquet strung in stock form and got 311g. I added a Gamma leather grip and an overgrip and got 330g. Exactly what i wanted.,i currently have vantage racquets weighing 340g. I need something lighter.

    I found 2 things very strange. The grip seems bigger than my l4 on my vantage. I wrapped an overgrip around it and used a pen to mark it. Than did the same thing on the vantage racquet. The grip on the mantis frame is definitely bigger. Anyone noticed this?

    Also, the mantis racquet is smaller in length (about 0.5cm) than my vantage frame. Specs say they are both 27inches. I will measure it tomorrow to be certain.
     
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  37. luishcorreia

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    Also the grip format is different than what i am used to. Will it be possible for me to replace the pallets with a set of pallets from vantage racquets?
     
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  38. counterpuncher

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    I don't know if the Vantage pallets fit, but the Head ones are close enough as I mentioned earlier. You can use the standard TK82 type or the more rounded TK82S Speed pallets, as I have done on mine.
     
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  39. luishcorreia

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    What is a tk82? Are there standard shapes? My vantage was bought with the standard D (Dunlop) shape. You can also customize it to be wilson (more rounder) or head (with a larger big bevel)
     
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  40. counterpuncher

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    TK82 is the standard current Head pallet shape and the TK82S is the more rounded version (not quite Wilson) that is found on their Speed models.

    The Vantage pallets may have similar shape and dimensions on the hair pin, enabling you to use them, but I don't know.

    The Head pallets definitely fit, as I have changed them on mine.
     
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  41. Tilde of Destruction

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    I don't think you can upload photos onto a forum using vBulletin (forum platform) on mobile devices without the help of Tapatalk or something similar.
     
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  42. Tilde of Destruction

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    Also, for those who want to know when the Pro 295 will be back in stock:

    So this is a bit unfortunately. I believe Guts and Glory still has these racquets in stock.
     
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  43. luishcorreia

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    In Portugal I can put you in contacto euro the oficial Mantis resealer
     
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  44. High street sw19

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    Are Mantis pulling out of the US already?
     
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  45. Anton

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    It looks that way.

    On Mantis US section of the website all they have is 285 and 300 for sale and they raised the price too.

    I'm hitting with my super polarized 285 a-la-nadal and loving it, too bad they are wrapping up the show. :(
     
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    I have had a couple of email exchanges with the INT. Sales Director of Mantis Mantis USA, who stated 'Tennis Warehouse will not be re ordering the MANTIS Frames, and we just took over the USA'.

    I take it that there are some independent tennis shops in the US that stock Mantis frames (he indicated one such shop in Suwanee, GA - I am not familiar with this shop).

    Bummer. I was really hoping to demo the Pro 295 thru TW's demo program, vs doing it via credit card from an unknown (to me) source.
     
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  47. tiebraek

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    Using the 305 tour..I have a L2 grip and feels like L3 and that without an overgrip!! Also the shape of the grip is not what I'm used to..very wide and kind of round.I didn't like that!I haven't tried changing pallets but good to know that there are options..
    The head size feels also bigger than 95.I wish it was more like Wilson 95 head size..
    I like the feel of the racquet, nice and clean. It kind of reminds me my old wilson HH.
    Very hard to find these racquets in the usa..TW was one of the few places but they won't have them no more. I'm very disappointed!
     
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  48. Ferocious Forehand

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    MANTIS are NOT pulling out of the USA. I took a look on their website and contacted their US distributor who confirmed that they are continuing in all countries and are actually looking to expand.
    Give him a call/e-mail - he's a nice/helpful guy.
     
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  49. Tilde of Destruction

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    This is very nice to know. I love my Mantis.

    I played with a Babolat AeroPro Drive 2013 the other day and I'm appreciating the cleaner response of my Pro 295 even more now. The AeroPro also felt fairly stiff as most people usually say when not hitting the sweet spot.
     
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    Here are the photos I promised.

    Weight without the grip.
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    Weight after putingin the leather grip (Gamma) and overgrip (Pro's Pro).
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    Some more pics
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