Mantis PRO 295

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  1. TeamHumphrey

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    Hi all, I just wanted to see if anyone else is still loving their Mantis Pro 295. I have been loving the racquet and am currently platooning 4 of them in a heavily polarized config around 350g strung.

    Has anyone tried modifying the newer heavier version? I am curious as to whether it is the same frame with just a heavier grip and/or something already in the handle.
     
  2. shamaho

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    eheh platooning 4 of them ? :) wow...

    Well, I'm still playing with them (when I do find the time to play) and no reason to change weapons, not looking over other models nor brands, not even the RF97.

    After long experimentations with the the customization I seem to finally have found my preferred setup, which is very little added weight to 3 and 9 o'clock - something like 2 or 3 g total, then adding 4 to 5g a little below the top of the grip something like 1,5 inch or so - also the grip has been replaced with a leather one.

    Add to that a really good multi to the mains (crossed with even a cheap poli) and I got a near perfect setup in terms of maneuvarability, power, control and feel, fits really nice with my all-court style of play.

    I really enjoyed playing with that setup.
     
  3. shamaho

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    I'm interested in hearing stringuing feedback and string recommendations from Mantis 295 users out there.

    Do you feel (like I do) that with monofilament strings one has to string them way lower than comparable 16x19 98 sq inch rackets ? ie with comparable tensions the stringbed feels stiffer...

    hoping to hear from you.
     
  4. SCRAP IRON

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    Due to the lack of weight in that frame, you should go with a lower tension assuming they are polyester strings. I had played with that Mantis racket, but I definitely added weight. I put on a leather grip and placed 8 grams at the top of the frame. It is a very customizable racket. I remember using Solinco Tour Bite Soft in the Mantis strung around 50lbs. It performed very well. You have a good frame, it just needs more weight to stand up to some heavier hitters.
     
  5. shamaho

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    Hi, thanks for your reply and feedback.

    However :) My question was of a different nature. That if others also feel like I do, that stringbed stiffness is somehow higher in this racket than in other comparable rackets 16x19, 98 sq inch. Thus the need to string at lower tensions.

    Anyway, I got that stick because it was highly customizable (and because of its quality, confort, price oh and aesthetics).

    As such I did replace the grip for a leather one, and added 4 g near top of grip, plus 2g at 3 and 9 - I might fiddle a bit more with them.

    Concerning stringuing:

    If using polis I string it at 18Kg (thats 39 lbs) only because I can't go lower with my stringer.

    If using a multi/poli hybrid I generally go to 20/18Kg (44/39 lbs)

    If using gut/hybrid I generally go to 22/19 Kb (48/41 lbs)


    Lets hear it from the other Mantis 296 users shall we ?

     
  6. robbo1970

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    I have been looking at these racquets and I think I am settled on going for the Pro 295.

    Or am I......

    I keep thinking about the 310 and I really can't decide.

    The 295 comes in stock with specs very similar to my Bio 300. The Pro 310 comes in with a static weight of 325g and a SW of 315.

    I play mostly doubles so I'm leaning towards the lighter manoevrability of the 295 but I'd really appreciate it if anyone had used both in stock form and could give me some idea of any core differences in feel. I can't demo them so it's a case of buying to find out if I like it.
     
  7. eugenius

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    Has anyone play tested the pro 310 or 310II?
    I currently use the tour 305 leaded up and silicone in handle to 335 g.
    Really excellent racket but better for my FH than 1hbh( still a bit unstable)
    Can't decide whether I should go the above route or the head graphene prestige pro route?any suggestions or experiences of these two rackets head to head
    Thanks
     
  8. TfReAk

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    Just got two Mantis Pro 295 from the used section at TWE (€50,- each). From what I know the 310 is a 295 with a leather grip (more or less). The headsize of the 295/310 is slightly larger than the 305 and the 295 is a good racket to customize.

    The 295 (in stock form) is very to swing. I haven't played with Graphene PP, but older versions of the PP had a high SW which didn't help my ohbh. Though if you prepare in time, this shouldn't be an issue :D If you like to tinker with your rackets, than I suggest the Mantis.
     
  9. robbo1970

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    I generally don't tend to tinker with my frames. I try and get one in the stock form I like and stick with it.

    I have tinkered in the past but found that adding weight to certain areas of the head just pulled the sweetspot around and messed with the balance and feel.

    I do know the specs of the 295 and 310, both 98's. The 295 is 310g strung with a SW of 302. The 310 is 325g strung with a SW of 315. They look like an identical mold, just one slightly heavier.

    The 305 is a 95 with a strung weight of 320g and a SW of about 304. That sounds nice but I think I prefer a 98.

    Even though the swingweights are relatively low, they are reported to be very solid feeling for their weight category, which interests me a lot. I do like the specs of my stock Bio300, although I do know it doesn't always feel very stable but I don't want to add weight to combat this.

    Ideally I'd want to test the 295 and 310 side by side in stock form, but there's nowhere I can find in the UK that offers these two as a demo.
     
  10. TfReAk

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    I think there is still one mantis 295 left in the used section of TWE for €50,-...
     
  11. eugenius

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    I hope the 310 isn't just a 295 plus leather grip!!
    I hope someone has tried or owns a 310 and can compare it to .... Well anything!!!
    I looks like it was released on another planet as there's not ONE play test review or feedback comment that I couldn find on the 310!
     
  12. robbo1970

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    I can't find a review for the 310 either.

    The 310 looks like an identical mold to the 295, but is definitely weighted differently.

    The grip on the 310 is a leather coloured synth grip. It's 15g heavier unstrung and has a strung SW of 315 (Mantis told me this directly).

    So they will look the same but the weight is different. Both appear to be good platform racquets, depending on how much weight anyone would want to add.

    However, the 295 gets good reviews in stock form and the reviewers I have seen have said that it feels surprisingly solid and stable for it's low SW. Which is good for me because I do like a low SW most of the time.
     
  13. eugenius

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    I play tested the 295 vs the 305 and decided on the 305 at the time.
    Hope the 310 is more stable on the backhand ... If it is then it'll be a good option for me
     
  15. robbo1970

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    The 310 has a higher SW than the 305, so will feel more solid as it comes through on your backhand. The 310 is a heavier racquet overall than the 305, but obviously not overly heavy at all.
     
  16. eugenius

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    Well, I've taken a plunge into the unknown to buy the 310 I I blindly , will probably have it out on trial in a week or so!
     
  17. robbo1970

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    Nice one. I'm after a lighter version so I'm going for the 295.

    Let me know if you have any questions about Mantis, I'm in touch directly with the owner. Really nice guy.
     
  18. robbo1970

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    FYI - Mantis have an interchangeable pallet system on their racquets. Worth knowing, for those who like to tinker with their pallets.
     
  19. eugenius

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    How do you mean interchangeable?
    I do like the standard pallet shape on the 305, but does this mean you can change the shape of it?
     
  20. robbo1970

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    From what I understand, you can change them for different sizes and shapes if needed, but I'm not sure if you would have to source your own pallets. I'll ask my Mantis guy, leave that with me.
     
  21. counterpuncher

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    Mantis racquets take Head pallets, as the pin shape and size is very close. I had TK82S (Head Speed) ones on my 295 before I sold it off.
     
  22. eugenius

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    Would that include the more classic rectangular pallet of the prestige line as well?
     
  23. robbo1970

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    There's quite a few options on the bay from what I can see. That said, I believe their standard pallet is the more rectangular shape anyway.
     
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    All Head pallets will fit, as the internal shape and dimensions are the same. It is the exterior's shape and size that changes.
     
  25. eugenius

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    Well,my 310 II has arrived and is strung up with plain old Babolat synt gut at 58 lbs.
    Will have my trusty 305 tour leaded up to 334 g there as well(strung with my usual Volkl synth gut at 58lbs)
    Lets see how tonight's little practice session goes.
    Hope the 310 stock does not disappoint tooo much,but even if its not perfect,can always (and probably will)modify it slightly.
    Here's to having a good first impression......
     
  26. robbo1970

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    I hope it goes well and I look forward to seeing your feedback.

    Every review I have seen for Mantis racquets is positive. They seem to be one of the brands that is keeping their racquets straightforward, with a good solid feel and good comfort.
     
  27. eugenius

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    Well ,i had 3 sets of doubles last night so until ive played a singles match,im likely to reserve my opinion.
    However,i had a very good match last night and it was easy to adapt from the tour 305.
    One thing that surprised me was the difference in feel(which might be due to the bab synth gut vs volkl synth gut),with the 310 feeling signiificantly softer that the rated RA of 66(identical to the tour 305)
    My wrist and arm felt fantastic the whole night compared to one week ago when i really had a lot of discomfort with the 305.
    Ill try and post a more complete revewi at some stage ,but a few things stood out already from a playing perspective.
    1)The sweetspot on the 310 is much bigger and its much more forgiving on off centre hits.
    2)The flight trajectory is much lower that the 16X18 tour 305.
    3)Its much easier to slice and hit over the 1HBH with the 310,but its more likely to sail long if you connect it "too well"
    4)The 310 is more solid on volleying.
    5)The tour 305 is more manoeverable,even leaded up to 334 g(which i might be able to change with a bit of tinkering)
    6)My forehand was a bit more lethal with the tour 305,due to ease of generating swingspeed and more open string pattern.

    Overall so far:Tour 305 has one advantage only so far:the forehand.... everything else is better with the 310,which is more stable,comfortable.
    Ill post a more complete review later.
    Happy times so far with the new acquisition!
     
  28. shamaho

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    Great to see newcomers to this fine racket.

    It doesn't have a big user base yet, so it remains one of those hidden jewels.

    For me it resembles very very much the pro staff 6.1 classic but in a more modern and maneuverable frame.

    Remember that it takes a while to fully adjust to a new racket
     

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