Mantis strings enter the market place

Discussion in 'Strings' started by LafayetteHitter, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I will soon have a package of Mantis strings in shipment from Europe. They look to be a new brand using a unique process on their strings.

    "MANTIS Comfort Polyester is an exceptional string that has been developed with a proprietary chemical treatment. This produces a softer feel for excellent comfort without compromising on the high level of power expected of any polyester."

    It's always nice to see technology of strings move forward and new companies entering the marketplace. I am anxious to try these out.

    http://www.mantis-sport.com/us/
     
    #1
  2. jayserinos99

    jayserinos99 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,883
    Alright, I'll bite. I'll email them and ask for some of their power strings.
     
    #2
  3. Kick Server

    Kick Server New User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009
    Messages:
    11
    I live in London and was introduced to the MANTIS range by my local retailer in Wimbledon. I am a big string breaker as I hit with a reasonable amount of spin and have consequently tried the full range. In my opinion there is something for everyone and it is just a case of finding the right set up for you personally. I simply love the Power Polyester and the Power Synthetic when used as a hybrid!
    The overgrips are fantastic too! (especially if you like an overgrip with a slightly tacky feel)
    My understanding from the guy I spoke to at my retailers is that they are looking for distributors in Europe and are in discussions with a company in the USA.
     
    #3
  4. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I am awaiting my test strings and I will post feedback here along with pics soon. It's always nice to see an innovative new company introducing strings.
     
    #4
  5. DEH

    DEH Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2009
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Arvada CO

    How powerful is this hybrid setup? I am getting a low powered racquet and I am looking for some high powered strings and not natty gut.
     
    #5
  6. Kick Server

    Kick Server New User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009
    Messages:
    11
    [DEH] - in aswer to your question, it is hard for me to put a "power" value to it but I am really happy with the power level myself. The advantage is that although you feel you have real power you don't feel that the ball is going to 'balloon' off the strings without control.
    As I mentioned before I hit with quite a bit of spin and the main thing I love is the 'grip' you get on the ball. I assume that this is also because of the thin gauge.
    I would suggest you try them if possible as I always find this is the best way to really find what works for you. In the UK the retail prices are superb so I had a go with everything to see what worked best for me.
    Hope that helps.
     
    #6
  7. ace0001a

    ace0001a Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2009
    Messages:
    751
    Are they offering samples? The website link just seems to their own online store.
     
    #7
  8. skyzoo

    skyzoo Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,461
    Compare this poly to something along the lines of msv focus hex or luxilon alu power.
     
    #8
  9. drummerdan

    drummerdan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    461
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    Which company most likely manufactures these strings?
     
    #9
  10. uk_skippy

    uk_skippy Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    2,047
    Location:
    Waterlooville, Hampshire, UK
    I've just tried a hybrid of the Power Poly & Prince syn gut 17. I strung at my usual 53/56lbs, the same I string ALU Power & syn gut.

    I found the string easy to string, nice and comfortable to handle. It felt softer than other polys.

    I had a short hit with it tonight and it played ok. I found that some shots were going long, but overall a good hit. I didn't think it was as softer feeling, IMO, as my ALU Power/syn gut set up. Next time I may go up a couple of pounds.

    Overall, the initial hit was good, and I found it was more to my liking than Cyberflash. So I may start to use that for my customers instead of Cyberflash.

    I'd like to try the poly with the power syn gut, but the cost of the syn gut is, IMO, overpriced.

    Regards

    Paul
     
    #10
  11. skyzoo

    skyzoo Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,461
    Thanks for the quick review
     
    #11
  12. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I've been using Cyberflash in full sets for the last couple weeks. I am hoping the Mantis strings coming in are a little better at holding tension.
     
    #12
  13. tenniscoach07

    tenniscoach07 New User

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2009
    Messages:
    59
    mantis strings info

    here is what mantis replied to me:

    Details are as follows:

    1 set of Power Polyester (17g / 1.22mm) - Comparable with Luxilon Alu Power or Luxilon TiMo. This has been very popular - especially when used as a hybrid.

    1 set of Comfort Polyester (16g / 1.30mm) - Comparable with Luxilon Big Banger Original (but my string has a softer feel) or Babolat Pro Hurricane.

    1 set of Power Synthetic (17g / 1.22mm) - Comparable with Babolat Conquest (due to the construction – mono core with mono wraps). This has been selling well in the UK.

    1 set of Comfort Synthetic (16g / 1.30mm) - Comparable with Wilson Sensation or Babolat Xcel Premium. A nice soft string with very good power as well.



    Please note that the comparisons are based on feedback so far and you may find alternative strings that you feel are closer to my range. These are just for an initial reference.



    The MANTIS strings can also be ‘mixed and matched’ in different hybrid combinations to find the best set up for you personally.



    There will also be a MANTIS Performa Tac Overgrip. These are very similar to the Wilson Pro Overgrip but have a bit more ‘tack’. These are proving very popular!
     
    #13
  14. Ash_Smith

    Ash_Smith Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    3,855
    Location:
    A green and pleasant land
    ^^^

    I received the same when I was speaking to Martin from Mantis last night - looking forward to giving them a try.
     
    #14
  15. saffers

    saffers New User

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2
    Mantis Power Hybrid

    I'm in England, I'm a coach(used to be a pro player) and have been using the MANTIS brand for a few months now. As 'kickserver' said earlier, the hybrid of MANTIS power polyester as main strings and the power synthetic as cross strings is fantastic. When i am playing any tournaments i use this hybrid, and i feel it is as good as any thing i used when playing on the tour. When coaching i use the polyester on its own, it lasts forever!!!! Give it a try guys, you won't be dissappointed!!
     
    #15
  16. jayserinos99

    jayserinos99 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,883
    Hmm, I'm waiting for test sample to arrive any day now and was considering going with a straight up power polyester setup but the power poly/syn hybrid is definitely intriguing to me.
     
    #16
  17. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I saw a picture of the Mantis bag and it was the best looking bag I have seen in a long time.
     
    #17
  18. jayserinos99

    jayserinos99 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    2,883
    I saw the bag too, definitely classy looking without all the need for flash.
     
    #18
  19. Net Wizard

    Net Wizard New User

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2009
    Messages:
    8
    I live in Berkshire (England) and play at a big indoor club. The guy who strings my rackets introduced me to the Mantis range and I am absolutely delighted he did! The strings play really well and feel very nice (although I admit I am not a top standard player so my feedback may be less relevant than others on here). However, in my view they are excellent value for money.

    I think the owner of Mantis may live locally as I have seen a few of the thermo bags around as they are being used by some good coaches and juniors who are being sponsored. As mentioned previously by others, the thermos do look really nice - classy looking but not too flashy.

    One thing I can give a valid opinion on is the overgrips. They are superb and feel great. They may not work as well if you sweat heavily or play in humid conditions but in cold England they are tops!
     
    #19
  20. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Hopefully i'll get overgrips to try out as well. I am a long time fan of the Wilson Pro but I am always willing to try a new overgrip out.
     
    #20
  21. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    I've got these strings lying in my bag.....
    I'm gonna try ALU rough with the Comfort Synthetic on one stick
    Then I'll put the Power Polyester with the Comfort Synthetic
    I've also got MSV Focus-Hex in my Bag....
    which combos should i try?
     
    #21
  22. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    #22
  23. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    To get free samples you need to apply for
    the sponsorship thing
     
    #23
  24. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    #24
  25. Lex

    Lex Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    293
    My doubles partner just hit with the Power Poly.

    He said overall it played like the Lux he was previously hitting with (I can't recall whick Lux string he was using). He liked it and said it had plenty of power.

    Martin, from Mantis, sent me a starter pack of the strings. I'll try the Comfort Poly soon.

    Any other reviews??????
     
    #25
  26. Kick Server

    Kick Server New User

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009
    Messages:
    11
    I have tried the full range. My favourite is the Power Polyester combined with the Power Synthetic as I find full poly's a bit too hard on my arm.

    However, I did try them all individually just out of interest! My thoughts are as follows:
    Power Polyester - as good as any poly I have used (and far better value for money). You really feel that you have good grip on the ball.

    Comfort Polyester - felt soft to me for a poly. Some people I know love this option while others love the Power Poly. Rarely do people love both.

    Power Synthetic - good power level but still with excellent control. Very easy and comfortable to string

    Comfort Synthetic - very comfortable playability. The strings started to move a bit. Probably best for players with stiffer or oversize rackets. Or maybe as a hybrid.

    Performa Tac Overgrip - excellent and brilliant value for money

    Hope this helps!
     
    #26
  27. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    #27
  28. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    YES, I've just tried the comfort synthetic in the crosses with MSV in the
    mains. The string is a multifilament. FORGET TECHNIFIBRE X-one
    this is such a good alternative, and it doesn't have a big price tag either.
    It's a very...springy string giving LOADS of touch and feel...almost
    gut-like. It provided all the feel i needed, msv feels very "dead" so
    this really helped. my search for a spin and feel friendly string is over.
    this combo is HEAVEN!
     
    #28
  29. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    I have a set of the comfort synthetic and the comfort poly on the way to try. It will be a hybrid also similar to LafayetteHitter so it will be interesting to see if we come out similar as a review.

    Given SixOne's comments here also I will give it a try with Focus Hex mains also.

    I am thinking to try the comfort poly with NRG2 crosses to try and compare.

    As I'm away a lot on business at the moment this will take a while but I'll update as I go along.

    Cheers, Orig

    Edit: Incidentally they were cheaper from the shop I got them than from Mantis directly ??? Not by much though but....
     
    #29
  30. Ferocious Forehand

    Ferocious Forehand New User

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    6
    What I like about MANTIS is the simplicity of their range.
    There is a power string (in poly or synthetic) and there is a comfort string (in poly or in synthetic).
    The prices are so good that you can try each one individually and then start mixing and matching hybrid combinations. A number of my hitting partners use MANTIS but there are different combinations that work for different game styles etc.
    From my experiences so far, they also offer excellent customer service over here.
     
    #30
  31. Mister Goulash

    Mister Goulash New User

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2010
    Messages:
    54
    I too have tried out the MANTIS range. Below is my personal feedback (I strung the synthetics at 58lbs and the polys at 52lbs on a Dunlop 4D areogel 200):

    Comfort Synthetic
    Just like the label says a very comfortable and easy string to hit with. It had probably had the most “luxurious” feeling from all the strings that I tried. I could however start seeing a little bit of wear on the strings after playing with the strings - which is only to be expected with such as string.

    Power Synthetic
    Definitely the most lively string of the bunch. The string felt very responsive and you could definitely tell the difference between the two synthetics. The ball felt more explosive coming off the racquet as opposed to the Comfort Synthetic. This string really rewards players that will go after their shots.

    Comfort Poly
    This was the softest feeling string out of the bunch. It really felt like the ball was being absorbed into the strings. I was still able to generate enough power on my shots – so that was not compromised at all. I do however think that if this string was available in at 17G, it would be even that much better - I just felt a little bulky with my small frame – for wider stringing patterns it would be just great.

    Power Poly
    Before I say anything else I think this will turn out to be the top selling string. Overall this string offers everything that I am wanting to get out of the playability of my string. Good power, solid feel and felt very responsive when trying all different types of shots. Just like the PS above this string is best when accelerating through your shots.

    Lastly the overgrip – I normally use the old blue tounagrips so when I first put the MANTIS one in my hand it felt like glue – very sticky and tacky. Not that that is a bad thing at all – I am just used to a different grip. I can however say that the more I played with it the more I adjusted and the more comfortable it became – in fact I will even go as far to say that I enjoy it now. However above all my personal feelings this grip is constructed with incredible quality – I mean the sticky/tacky feeling is still there after all those hours hitting but the most impressive thing is that it still looks brand new – no wear what so ever. If this was a tournagrip I would have gone through 2 of them by now.

    My overall all assessment of the MANTIS product line is that very high quality has gone into the construction of these products. At no point did anything feel cheap or that corners were cut. I think that you have done a great job with your products and I did take a brief look at the prices of these products and they appear to be very reasonably priced according to the market around them. With the strings offered I believe there is something for everyone’s game available while at the same time there are not 50 different choices like some of the other companies (which gets very confusing and I personally believe undercuts their quality since they are just trying to saturate the market and cover every single element some players might be looking for).
     
    #31
  32. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    Hi guys,
    My strings broke today (both of them) :(
    I'm gonna try power poly with comfort synthetic....
    will post my review soon
     
    #32
  33. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    And there's a possibility MANTIS will release Natural Gut
     
    #33
  34. Bud

    Bud Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2007
    Messages:
    31,165
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Just pray your mantis strings arrive quickly :)
     
    #34
  35. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    Many thanks for the reviews. This is a very interesting comment, you felt the comfort poly played softer than the synthetics? Including the "comfort synthetic"?

    As an aside how was the tension loss on the polys? What would you say was the "playable time" in hours as a guesstimate?

    Cheers, Orig
     
    #35
  36. Mister Goulash

    Mister Goulash New User

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2010
    Messages:
    54
    Yes - that ploy did feel softer than the synthetic. I had my stringer string up 4 rackets at the same time so when I tried the strings I could alternate between them and judge the differences between the strings that way.

    Regarding tension loss - I only played with the comfort poly about 20-25 minutes and noticed nothing. I prefered the power poly which I have used for maybe 4 hours. The string felt slightly looser (I would be guessing maybe a pound or 2 - I really have no idea) than when it was freshly strung but you adapt to this as you are playing and didn't affect anything. Personally I would be fine using the string until it broke rather than cutting it out of the frame after a few hours - it still felt fine to me.
     
    #36
  37. lew.m.f.tennisfan

    lew.m.f.tennisfan New User

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    85
    when coming out
     
    #37
  38. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Tennis warehouse should be playtesting it soon and hopefully they will pick up this great line of strings. I am loving the Comfort Poly.
     
    #38
  39. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    Just tried the Power Poly with Power Synthetic
    Gr8 combo....sticking with this....i hope i don't have to switch AGAIN!
    My mains were strung 4lbs tighter, generating alot of spin and power.
    When i put a dampener, i regained some of the control which i lost.
    Freshly strung, they play great....after a while...........
    they played even better!
     
    #39
  40. PROTENNIS63

    PROTENNIS63 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,722
    I am going to try their poly and see how it plays.
     
    #40
  41. Mr. Blond

    Mr. Blond Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2006
    Messages:
    816
    Lafayettehitter.....got my package in today. Maybe we get some warm weather our way we can give this stuff a run ay?

    I am still loving the Solinco Tour Bite I have installed, but would not mind stringing up my back up with this mantis stuff and give it a go.
     
    #41
  42. LafayetteHitter

    LafayetteHitter Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    2,954
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Sounds great, shoot me a text or call me and I will come over for some court time anytime this week.
     
    #42
  43. origmarm

    origmarm Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,207
    Location:
    London
    I received a package of comfort poly and comfort synthetic yesterday.

    The first thing that struck me about the "Comfort Synthetic" is that it is VERY visually similar to Weisscannon Explosiv. To the point where I would say visually they are the same string. Interested to see if it plays similar.

    Anyone else notice this?

    I'm wondering if the comfort poly also resembles anything from the Weisscannon brand (it does not resemble either Scorpion or Silverstring) but I can't think of one.

    Additionally would be interesting to see if the "Power Poly" resembles Silverstring. I bet it does...

    Regards, Orig
     
    #43
  44. drummerdan

    drummerdan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    461
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    I just rec'd the 4 different strings from Mantis and strung up the comfort poly in the mains and comfort syn in the crosses. The syn is VERY soft feeling during the stringing and almost feels like a rubber band. I pre-stretched the string (syn gut only) and double-pulled every cross. Both were very easy to string and it looks like I'll get a chance to hit this weekend.

    More later...
     
    #44
  45. drummerdan

    drummerdan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    461
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    After a 2 hr hit today: The first 15 minutes were not impressive. It was pretty typical of the polys I have had. Crappy string to start and gets better after a while. I could also feel it in my elbow a bit. I went back to my Gaucho Gut racquet and my arm felt better instantly. However, the gut broke and I went back to the Mantis setup. After a while, the feel and play was much improved. Also, my arm felt fine this time. Hmmm...? The spin improved but still not up to other polys I have used and certainly not my normal gut setup. More info later.
     
    #45
  46. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

    Six.One.Tour.90FAN Professional

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2009
    Messages:
    1,030
    Location:
    wiltshire, uk
    what setup is this??????^^^^^^^
    I haven't tried the comfort poly....
     
    #46
  47. drummerdan

    drummerdan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    461
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    Comfort Poly (main) / Comfort Syn (crosses).
     
    #47
  48. Ash_Smith

    Ash_Smith Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    3,855
    Location:
    A green and pleasant land
    Drummerdan - the power poly generates way more spin than the comfort poly. I agree that they need a little settling in period though, I have found the same thing with both the power and comfort poly's.
     
    #48
  49. drummerdan

    drummerdan Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    461
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    Did you string the tension down in the power poly? How much? The Mantis site doesn't recommend anything.
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2010
    #49
  50. Ash_Smith

    Ash_Smith Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    3,855
    Location:
    A green and pleasant land
    @ drummerdan

    yeah, about 55lbs in my prestige - though next time i'd go a couple lower again - as it softened off it got better - initially had a few twinges in the arm (never had that before) but now all clear and playing great.
     
    #50

Share This Page