Manual or Automatic?

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Manual or Automatic?

  1. Manual

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  2. Automatic

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  1. retlod

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    Just curious...

    Not what you drive now, but which you would prefer to drive if every vehicle came with either and there was no price difference.
     
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  2. chollyred

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    I currently drive an automatic. Mainly due to the miles I drive in heavy traffic. I really love driving a stick shift. More sporty and fun to drive.

    I've been considering buying an old Miata or something similar just to have as a weekend play toy. Would have to be a stick shift convertible.
     
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  3. goober

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    I would only choose manual in a sportscar.

    It makes no sense for me in a regular sedan, minivan SUV where I am driving slow, in traffic and don't need precise shifting for acceleration.
     
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  4. mikeler

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    Same for me. Stick is more enjoyable to drive but definitely not in "stop and go" traffic.
     
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  5. tennismonkey

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    if there was no traffic or prospect of sitting in gridlock for an hour - manual all the way. it's more fun, more engaging.

    oddly the performance benefit of manual has mostly been mitigated by some really good automatics (7 and 8 speed) and automanuals.
     
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  6. LuckyR

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    Automatics are great for being transported, especially through heavy traffic.

    Manuals are great for those who like to drive, even in heavy traffic.

    The automanuals are good for launches and little else IMO, I would use them in auto mode and just listen to the radio.
     
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  7. quest01

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    I drive an automatic and I've only driven a manual once and that was years ago. I forgot how to drive a manual.
     
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  8. woodrow1029

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    My car now is a manual and I have had it for 12 years, and I love the car, but when I bought it, I didn't live in San Francisco.

    Now, I live in San Francisco, and unless I am buying a sports car, or something where I would really enjoy driving the manual, because of the hills and traffic here, my next car will definitely be an automatic.
     
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  9. chollyred

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    Yeah, Stop-and-Go traffic, paricularly on hills, is not fun.

    My first vehicle was a '61 Ford pickup with 3 on the tree, no parking brake, and a screwy clutch. On hills you had to use one foot on the clutch, and the other on both the brake and accelerator. Get stuck on a hill in traffic and it was like juggling chainsaws to keep from rolling backward onto someone.

    But if you could learn to drive that thing, you could drive anything! My father made us all learn to drive that before we could get our regular license.
     
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  10. Pacific lefty

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    Although automatic is not suited to narrow crash prone Irish roads it is easy on the arm if you have to drive with the steering on the right hand side (and you are left handed)...
     
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  11. Mick

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    manual for me. All of my cars have been manual. I enjoying going through the gears. to me, it is like playing tennis versus watching tennis being played.
     
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  12. jmverdugo

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    Currently only automatic but we used to have only manual cars. Withe heavy traffic automatic can save you from some leg cramps !

    It would also highly depend on where you are. In south america most people drive manual cars, traffic or no traffic.
     
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  13. ollinger

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    The subtext here is "how do you feel about being replaced by machines that are more efficient and more effective than you?" Every car I've owned for decades was a manual, until my current car which has a dual clutch automatic. Works great, shifts are literally imperceptible (I wouldn't know it had shifted without looking at the tach) and it gets better fuel economy than the manual versions. Easy to see why fewer and fewer cars are being sold in the US with manuals (even Ferrari only sells dual clutch automatic in the US now), and some auto writers predict they'll be virtually unavailable in 5-10 years or so.
     
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  14. LeeD

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    Had an even split most of my years.
    You can pushstart a manual, you call CSAA with an auto....:)
    You have fun driving a 5-6 speed. Your left knee thanks you for owning an auto.
    Woodrow1029. I left SF in '85, after living there 35 years. What district are you living at?
     
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  15. Xisbum

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    Was a stick man all the way til my clutch knee got so cranky. Now I'm the little old grumpy from Pasadena. :-(
     
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  16. OrangePower

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    Manual all the way. More fun to drive, plus as an added bonus, my wife can't drive stick... so my car stays all mine :)
     
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  17. Andres

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    Manual. In fact, maybe it's a matter of lack of market down here in Argentina, but I haven't seen an automatic car in my life, let alone drive one.
     
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    Manual of course :)
     
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  19. Peters

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    In the UK, it's nearly all manual anyway. The only person I know who drives an automatic is my brother, because of a partial disability in his left leg.

    Manual's are great - never liked automatics. Feels like too much is taken out of your own hands.
     
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  20. bad_call

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    owned manual drives for decades...still do. was fun when renting a small 4 door in London and driving around visiting castles and the such. shifting gears with the left hand and driving on the other side after visiting the pub had the group of us laughing a bit. fun times were had in the "mother" country. :)
     
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  21. woodrow1029

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    North Beach.
     
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  22. LuckyR

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    Apparantly due to cell phones etc, automatics are all the rage nowadays. Priorities...
     
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  23. thug the bunny

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    I much prefer the control and response of a manual. And these auto-manual hybrids just don't work. But, alas, now I drive a full size pick-up so my manual days are done unless I get rich so I can afford a play car.

    I had a 5spd Tacoma that I brought from the flatlands to the Bay Area when I moved, and got real good on my clutch work driving around SF.
     
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  24. El Diablo

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    The more socially responsive move these days is the automatic, as they've overtaken manuals for the most part in fuel efficiency in the past decade (combination of smarter programming, more gears -- as many as 8 in some cars, and more direct linkage replacing fluid drives). It's one of the reasons manuals will continue to disappear in the US, as they make it harder for the companies to meet the new higher CAFE requirements.
     
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  25. LeeD

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    Ah living in NBeach, where they're gonna film for "Alcatraz" retracing the Bullit chase scene. Taylor to Lombard.
    NBeach Playground my weekend home years '78-80, when I was almost considered a serious threat at CNationals. At least to make quarters.
    Where little cable cars, climb halfway to the stars...... and Rice a Roni.
    And more resturants and bistros than can be believed.
     
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    Do you know when they are going to do this?
     
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    In my opinion, one of the best neighborhoods in the world for someone who likes to eat! Chinatown, Little Italy, Fisherman's Wharf, etc. all within a 10 minute walk. :)
     
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  28. LeeD

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    On Channel 2 news last night, TODAY, thru Friday, on Taylor jumping the intersections going down, two modern black cars, one Mustang, and the other a black Challenger (?). I don't know how they're gonna close Union.
     
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  29. ArliHawk

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    I thought this was about watches when I saw the subject of the topic.
     
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  30. FlamEnemY

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    Ah. Yes.

    Love that feel. :) I feel like some kind of a pro when performing such maneuvers.
     
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  31. LeeD

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    Drove in SanFrancisco from 1965 to 1985.
    Toe on brake, heel on accelerator pedal, other foot on clutch.
    Lazy guys use the handbrake.
    Had a hip cast in 1971. Crutch on clutch, left arm
     
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  32. woodrow1029

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    I went home for lunch today, and no filming set up yet. With my luck it will be going on between now and when I get home from work, and I will miss it. Apparently I was at work when they were filming "The Bachelor" (not that I like the show, but they were skiing in bikinis on manmade snow on the hill on Greenwich St.).
     
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  33. LeeD

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    Episode airs March29th.
    They say filming this scene needs to be completed before the weekend, as weather is predicting clouds and cold next week.
    Scenes to be filmed were the TaylorSt. downhill, 2nd choice the DeHaro twister down to 23rd, on the W side of Bayshore. Could they have problems getting the closing street permits?
    Hope you catch it.
    I was one of the zombies in Village of the Damned, filmed in PtReyesStation, in the mid '90's.
     
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  34. BigServer1

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    Manuals are more fun to drive, but if you'll be driving in traffic, you'll want to kill yourself.

    I've got an automatic with sport shift, but it comes with paddle shifters on the steering wheel. Those make an auto more fun to drive.
     
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  35. Mick

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  36. chrischris

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    Manual.. its part of the experience :)
     
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    As it is people dont have enough hands to text, apply makeup, eat a sandwich, grab coffee, all whilst driving an automatic. You can imagine how it would be with a manual.
     
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  38. chrischris

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    They would be fitter and better tennis players...besides better drivers.
     
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  39. max pl

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    not just south america, but most of the world.

    the US is one of the few countries, or possibly only country, thats dominated by automatic.
     
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  40. Mick

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    i don't know about you guys but two of my favorite activities are playing tennis and driving my weekend car (which happens to have a manual transmission) :)
     
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  41. THESEXPISTOL

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    Manual. If any of you ever gets a ride from me then you would understand why [​IMG]
     
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  42. CaldwellYSR

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    I drive stick and I hope to continue driving stick forever. Unfortunately it seems like they're phasing out :(

    That being said everyone should at least know how to drive stick. In case of emergency.
     
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  43. Jay_The_Nomad

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    Dual Clutch Transmission all the way...

    In tennis terms, it is kinda like using a game improving racquet...

    With the DCT, it is like cheating when you go drag racing with a stick shift driver... there's no way they can win cuz the computer assisted gear shifts are more efficient than the human.
     
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  44. Janne

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    Manual. So much more fun as others have pointed out. The only instance when I prefer an automatic is when driving in the city where it takes an hour to drive a couple feet.

    I think that if you can only drive an automatic, you can't really say that you can drive a car.
     
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  45. ollinger

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    ^^ you will have to, as manuals will be gone in perhaps a few years, maybe longer. Automatics are now more efficient than manual, manufacturers can't meet the new CAFE standards with manuals. Population growth will also kill off manuals, as they're not "more fun" to drive in heavy traffic.
     
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  46. jmverdugo

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    ^^ also, it is really hard to text and drive a manual car...
     
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  47. The_Question

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    Of course, manual. Auto is for sissies who doesn't know how to drive a proper car.

    That excuse of driving a manual in traffic is a sorry excuse. When one knows how to drive, shifting in traffic is not an issue.
     
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  48. jmverdugo

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    the problem is not "knowing" how to shift in traffic, the problem is having to do it 100 times in 5 minutes.
     
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  49. LuckyR

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    I don't like automatics, I prefer revolvers.
     
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