Many opportunities next year for No1e to earn new GOAT points!

[GoatNo1]

before each season I usually think of priorities for nole and give them some value. usually it's 1p for each slam and YE#1. and for me it's an OK season if he wins 1p, a good season if he wins 2 and an excellent season if he scores 3+ points.

this is how it looks, in my opinion, for the next season:

AO 1p
MC 1p - 4th GM
RG 1.5p - slam + 4th CGS
W 1p - slam + tie Fed's record
OG 1p - only big title he lacks
USO - 1p - slam + tie fed's record
WTF - 0.5p - record breaking (if he doesn't do it this year)
YE#1 - 1p

so total possible 8 priority GOAT points for nole next season!

 

[jl809]

… goat points??

 

[Mike Sams]

before each season I usually think of priorities for nole and give them some value. usually it's 1p for each slam and YE#1. and for me it's an OK season if he wins 1p, a good season if he wins 2 and an excellent season if he scores 3+ points.

this is how it looks, in my opinion, for the next season:

AO 1p
MC 1p - 4th GM
RG 1.5p - slam + 4th CGS
W 1p - slam + tie Fed's record
OG 1p - only big title he lacks
USO - 1p - slam + tie fed's record
WTF - 0.5p - record breaking (if he doesn't do it this year)
YE#1 - 1p

so total possible 8 priority GOAT points for nole next season!

He's not getting RG or Wimbledon or USO. Alcaraz will take the first two. And Djokovic won't defend USO. Probably a new winner for USO.

 

[DSH]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

 

[GabeT]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

Do you really want to continue making predictions?

Djokovic is not going to win RG or the US anymore, his last chances are in Melbourne and at the All England Club next season.
In 2024 his chances of winning there will be greatly reduced.
The Serbian could win a couple more Major titles at most, that would be his limit.

 

[ballamaz]

He said he's going for the slams and he seems to have the process down.

Hope he doesn't fall into the trap of picking every fruit he passes (Nadal 22) / burnout.

Alcaraz will likely take some of them as well.

 

[tennis_error]

He's not getting RG or Wimbledon or USO. Alcaraz will take the first two. And Djokovic won't defend USO. Probably a new winner for USO.

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

Not this same s.h.i.t again, please
Will you ever learn?

 

[nolefam_2024]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

People keep saying this. But the boy got beat even in Cincy. The goat is 28-1 on hc this year. Where is the kid.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Not this same s.h.i.t again, please
Will you ever learn?

They NEVER learn.

 

[tennis_error]

before each season I usually think of priorities for nole and give them some value. usually it's 1p for each slam and YE#1. and for me it's an OK season if he wins 1p, a good season if he wins 2 and an excellent season if he scores 3+ points.

this is how it looks, in my opinion, for the next season:

AO 1p
MC 1p - 4th GM
RG 1.5p - slam + 4th CGS
W 1p - slam + tie Fed's record
OG 1p - only big title he lacks
USO - 1p - slam + tie fed's record
WTF - 0.5p - record breaking (if he doesn't do it this year)
YE#1 - 1p

so total possible 8 priority GOAT points for nole next season!

Generally agree, and my slight correction would be:
- AO can't be same important as W and USO
- YE#1 can't be important as any slam as he already has record
- OG can't be that important (I consider it exco, not part of standard tennis calendar). But, it's important for Novak so I hope he won't win which will keep him playing 4 more years, lol... If he wins I can somehow see him thinking about ending/slowing career as he would win everything...

 

[Mike Sams]

Not this same s.h.i.t again, please
Will you ever learn?

It'll be true before you know it.

 

[tennis_error]

It'll be true before you know it.

Well, it was false for years but eventually will be truth, same as broken clock eventually shows right time...
But, till your broken clock finally shows right time Novak got all he ever wanted and more, lol...

 

[Mike Sams]

Well, it was false for years but eventually will be truth, same as broken clock eventually shows right time...
But, till your broken clock finally shows right time Novak got all he ever wanted and more, lol...

Of course. He's rightfully the GOAT based on records and accomplishments.
He's driven to win everything he can.
Can't really say the same for the rest of the tour who are more interested in living the high life.

 

[Federev]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

he's doing stuff that Federer and Nadal didn't do at his age.

with no clear ATG in the whole field certain to stop him. - and only one around to boot.

why would he be stopped now?

 

[Fabresque]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

Your track record on here is so bad that I’m inclined to believe he’ll hit 30 now that you’ve said he’s finished next season.

Keep making predictions, fella!

 

[joshuayuan]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

 

[Mike Sams]

Seems like every single Djokovic fan posting on here and elsewhere is Serbian.

 

[Mike Sams]

he's doing stuff that Federer and Nadal didn't do at his age.

with no clear ATG in the whole field certain to stop him. - and only one around to boot.

why would he be stopped now?

He got stopped at Wimbledon 2023. Why wouldn't he be stopped in 2024?

 

[James_Bolt]

he's doing stuff that Federer and Nadal didn't do at his age.

with no clear ATG in the whole field certain to stop him. - and only one around to boot.

why would he be stopped now?

Federer did great stuff at current Djokovic age:
- In 2017, the year he turned 36, he won 2 Grand Slams (AO & W) and 3 Masters1000.
- In 2018, the year he turned 37, he won 1 Grand Slam (AO) and reached the finals of 2 Masters1000.
- In 2019, the year he turned 38, he had match point at Wimbledon, reached the finals of 2 Masters1000 and won one of them.

Federer had chances at GS or Masters1000, but covid disrupted ATP Tour as many tournaments were cancelled, including Wimbledon.

 

[nevermind]

If I could "pick" slams, I would like him to win a couple more Wimbledons and US Opens(at least one more each). These two are most prestigious slams, tying Federer's count there would be pretty nice. He also deserves at least one more YE #1, he was robbed of many weeks at #1 because of covid(and some slams and masters, of course). He's won enough of AO and RG, I wouldn't really mind if he never does win one of them again.

One more Montecarlo title would be really nice for a Triple Golden Masters + Triple Career Grand Slam combo, but that doesn't seem realistic and it won't happen. He doesn't care about masters at all at this stage of his career. And, of course, Olympic gold singles medal, but it's too late for that also. And, it doesn't have a significant meaning in tennis(never did) because of how rarely the tournament is played. It also has tough, weird place in the tennis calendar - after RG and Wimbledon and just before US Open which makes for a ridiculously busy, exhausting summer.

 

[James_Bolt]

He got stopped at Wimbledon 2023. Why wouldn't he be stopped in 2024?

He can be stopped but the probability of him getting stopped remains low.
Predictions are about probability not possibility. Is it possible that Murray win another Wimbledon? Yes. How is the probaility? Very low.
In the current top10, the players who can trouble Djokovic are Alcaraz, Medevedev and Zverev. So the factors that will be very important are the draw and one of these players losing early in the tournament.

 

[aldeayeah]

… goat points??

 

[James_Bolt]

Federer did great stuff at current Djokovic age:
- In 2017, the year he turned 36, he won 2 Grand Slams (AO & W) and 3 Masters1000.
- In 2018, the year he turned 37, he won 1 Grand Slam (AO) and reached the finals of 2 Masters1000.
- In 2019, the year he turned 38, he had match point at Wimbledon, reached the finals of 2 Masters1000 and won one of them.

Federer had chances at GS or Masters1000, but covid disrupted ATP Tour as many tournaments were cancelled, including Wimbledon.

In 2019, Federer also won Dubai, Halle and Basel.

 

[DSH]

He got stopped at Wimbledon 2023. Why wouldn't he be stopped in 2024?

They make fun, but after his fetish Major tournament, Djokovic is going to fall finally.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Federer did great stuff at current Djokovic age:
- In 2017, the year he turned 36, he won 2 Grand Slams (AO & W) and 3 Masters1000.
- In 2018, the year he turned 37, he won 1 Grand Slam (AO) and reached the finals of 2 Masters1000.
- In 2019, the year he turned 38, he had match point at Wimbledon, reached the finals of 2 Masters1000 and won one of them.

Federer had chances at GS or Masters1000, but covid disrupted ATP Tour as many tournaments were cancelled, including Wimbledon.

Lol the guy was out of the tour with another knee surgery. He lost nothing. It was Nole's tournament to win. Federer wouldn't even come to the tour till late 2021 and then he was out in just 3 tournaments. It was THAT bad. Don't make fake claims that he lost ANYTHING due to covid. In fact his rivals lost almost half a year and Nole lost more than a full year worth of time to create more records so don't spread lies.

 

[Terenigma]

… goat points??

See, when you finish the game and win. You go back to play for achievements. Djokovic is on the hunt for 100% completion.

 

[thrust]

Seems like every single Djokovic fan posting on here and elsewhere is Serbian.

OF COURSE- LOL!

 

[Cortana]

before each season I usually think of priorities for nole and give them some value. usually it's 1p for each slam and YE#1. and for me it's an OK season if he wins 1p, a good season if he wins 2 and an excellent season if he scores 3+ points.

this is how it looks, in my opinion, for the next season:

AO 1p
MC 1p - 4th GM
RG 1.5p - slam + 4th CGS
W 1p - slam + tie Fed's record
OG 1p - only big title he lacks
USO - 1p - slam + tie fed's record
WTF - 0.5p - record breaking (if he doesn't do it this year)
YE#1 - 1p

so total possible 8 priority GOAT points for nole next season!

AO 0.5p
MC 0.1p
RG 1p
W 1.5p
OG 0.5p
USO 1.25p
WTF 0.2p
YE#1 0.2p

My list. Just in context of Djokovic now, not general.

 

[James_Bolt]

Lol the guy was out of the tour with another knee surgery. He lost nothing. It was Nole's tournament to win. Federer wouldn't even come to the tour till late 2021 and then he was out in just 3 tournaments. It was THAT bad. Don't make fake claims that he lost ANYTHING due to covid. In fact his rivals lost almost half a year and Nole lost more than a full year worth of time to create more records so don't spread lies.

Where did I ever say that Federer lost something? Where did I ever compare how covid impacted Federer versus Nole?
My response was in fact to defend Djokovic following the posts from DSH and Federev

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

he's doing stuff that Federer and Nadal didn't do at his age.

They were saying that Djokovic will be old and it will diffcult for him to reach GS finals.
My response was to show that Federer won 2 GS the year he turned 36 (Djokovic just won 3), 1 GS the year he turned 37 (why Djokovic can't do the same?), had 1 match point in GS the year he turned 38 (why can't Djokovic do the same?) and he could have been competitive (it's what I meant by "had chances") even at 39 at Wimbledon, but we will never know because it was cancelled due to covid.
All I was saying is that, Federer could have been competitte at 39!!! But because of covid we didn't get to see.
If Federer was still very competitive at 38, 2024 and 2025 won be a challenge for Djokovic as he's the one who has better managed his body and achieved better results past 30 yrs old amongst the big3.

So which lies am I spreading?

 

[GoatNo1]

Where did I ever say that Federer lost something? Where did I ever compare how covid impacted Federer versus Nole?
My response was in fact to defend Djokovic following the posts from DSH and Federev




They were saying that Djokovic will be old and it will diffcult for him to reach GS finals.
My response was to show that Federer won 2 GS the year he turned 36 (Djokovic just won 3), 1 GS the year he turned 37 (why Djokovic can't do the same?), had 1 match point in GS the year he turned 38 (why can't Djokovic do the same?) and he could have been competitive (it's what I meant by "had chances") even at 39 at Wimbledon, but we will never know because it was cancelled due to covid.
All I was saying is that, Federer could have been competitte at 39!!! But because of covid we didn't get to see.
If Federer was still very competitive at 38, 2024 and 2025 won be a challenge for Djokovic as he's the one who has better managed his body and achieved better results past 30 yrs old amongst the big3.

So which lies am I spreading?

I guess we know that. during W20 fed was injured and would not race regardless of whether it had been held or not. it's another big missed chance for nole as he won 2 previous and 2 subsequent Ws while his biggest rival there was out of the game. raz was no threat on the grass in 2020.

 

[James_Bolt]

I guess we know that. during W20 fed was injured and would not race regardless of whether it had been held or not. it's another big missed chance for nole as he won 2 previous and 2 subsequent Ws while his biggest rival there was out of the game. raz was no threat on the grass in 2020.

I agree that Djokovic was the main favorite for W20. That was not the point!
The point was to show that if Federer had been competitive until 38 years old, Djokovic will even be more competitive than was Federer at that age.

 

[DSH]

Where did I ever say that Federer lost something? Where did I ever compare how covid impacted Federer versus Nole?
My response was in fact to defend Djokovic following the posts from DSH and Federev




They were saying that Djokovic will be old and it will diffcult for him to reach GS finals.
My response was to show that Federer won 2 GS the year he turned 36 (Djokovic just won 3), 1 GS the year he turned 37 (why Djokovic can't do the same?), had 1 match point in GS the year he turned 38 (why can't Djokovic do the same?) and he could have been competitive (it's what I meant by "had chances") even at 39 at Wimbledon, but we will never know because it was cancelled due to covid.
All I was saying is that, Federer could have been competitte at 39!!! But because of covid we didn't get to see.
If Federer was still very competitive at 38, 2024 and 2025 won be a challenge for Djokovic as he's the one who has better managed his body and achieved better results past 30 yrs old amongst the big3.

So which lies am I spreading?

You see it from a linear point but sometimes there are curves that prevent you from predicting probabilistic results.

 

[James_Bolt]

You see it from a linear point but sometimes there are curves that prevent you from predicting probabilistic results.

That's true.
Declining due to age is linear and Djokovic is managing well that part. That's why he is skipping many tournaments he used to play.
"The curves" will be injuries, a new pandemic, a war/politics (it prevented russians from playing W21), a doping scandal, etc.

 

[Federev]

He got stopped at Wimbledon 2023. Why wouldn't he be stopped in 2024?

He was unstoppable at 3/4 slams.

Why would we expect he’ll get stopped now?

 

[Federev]

Where did I ever say that Federer lost something? Where did I ever compare how covid impacted Federer versus Nole?
My response was in fact to defend Djokovic following the posts from DSH and Federev




They were saying that Djokovic will be old and it will diffcult for him to reach GS finals.
My response was to show that Federer won 2 GS the year he turned 36 (Djokovic just won 3), 1 GS the year he turned 37 (why Djokovic can't do the same?), had 1 match point in GS the year he turned 38 (why can't Djokovic do the same?) and he could have been competitive (it's what I meant by "had chances") even at 39 at Wimbledon, but we will never know because it was cancelled due to covid.
All I was saying is that, Federer could have been competitte at 39!!! But because of covid we didn't get to see.
If Federer was still very competitive at 38, 2024 and 2025 won be a challenge for Djokovic as he's the one who has better managed his body and achieved better results past 30 yrs old amongst the big3.

So which lies am I spreading?

Dude - I agree with you 100%.

That was my point.

Novak is doing even better than Fed did at 35-36 in terms of accomplishments.

I don’t expect him to slow down much next year.

 

[Mike Sams]

He was unstoppable at 3/4 slams.

Why would we expect he’ll get stopped now?

He's pulled out of the Asian swing and given up the fight for the #1 ranking. At 37 next year and with Alcaraz getting stronger along with Zverev and Medvedev and others also starting to find strong form and consistency, is he going to stay ahead of these guys for much longer? He got a gift draw at USO and 1 crucial point could've changed the entire final. He had a great season but other than being lucky from a cramping Alcaraz at RG and the clown draw he got at USO, I'd say he's hardly unstoppable. Alcaraz could be the one who will dominate in 2024.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Dude - I agree with you 100%.

That was my point.

Novak is doing even better than Fed did at 35-36 in terms of accomplishments.

I don’t expect him to slow down much next year.

A lot will depend on alcaraz. If he can go to next level he can take over. It remains to be seen though.

 

[HashDump]

Djokovic will be 36 years and 8 months old when he plays the 2024 Australian Open, his last Major at 70% capacity.
When Roland Garros arrives he will already be 37 years old, his level will have dropped, which will be very difficult for him to reach more GS finals and from that moment on Alcaraz should no longer lose a match against him.

What will you say if Djokovic wins AO 2025?

 

[DSH]

What will you say if Djokovic wins AO 2025?

37 is the beginning of the end and 38 is the definitive end for a tennis player to win Major titles.

 

[ark_28]

He got stopped at Wimbledon 2023. Why wouldn't he be stopped in 2024?

He got “stopped” at US Open 2022 and Australian Open 2022 but wasn’t in 2023