Marian Vajda: Defeat from Melzer was turning point in Djokovic career

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  1. Djokodal Fan

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    source:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/te...-Djokovic-turned-himself-into-a-champion.html

    Interesting read and good thoughts by Marian Vajda

    Now please don't turn this to a Doping thread or idol bashing thread. Thank you
     
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  2. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    And Nadal defeating Djokovic at RolandGarros2012 was another turning point in Djokovic's career. A turning point in the wrong direction. :p
     
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    Yea since then Nadal has won 1 single match in a major against Bellucci at Wimbledon while Djokovic reached a semi, final and won the AO recently. You can clearly see which one of the 2 took went the wrong path.
     
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    Rosol beating Nadal at last yr's wimby was a turning point in Nadal's career.
     
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    Watson: What is it you people say here? Powned? Or something like that ;)
     
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    Come on man, you're slipping again. When you troll, you need to post facts and then twist them with trolling logic. Simply posting absurd things outright isn't trolling.
     
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    And some people have reading comprehension problems apparently.

    I requested not to turn this thread to a doping or idol bashing....please!
     
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    We'll see if ole "Gimpy" can achieve the same against the Serb this year. Enjoy the past my friend is all I can say :)
     
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    Ouch! So much ownage!
     
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    guys, don't be so harsh with 6-3 6-0: the nadal won his first tournament on carpet last week !
     
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    There is many notables in playing career, Nole has made several.
     
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    The 2010 French Open loss to Melzer was the last time Djokovic failed to make at least the semis of a Slam. Since then:

    2010 Wimbledon (semis, lost to Berdych)
    2010 US Open (final, lost to Nadal).
    2011 Australian Open (final, beat Murray).
    2011 French Open (semis, lost to Federer).
    2011 Wimbledon (final, beat Nadal).
    2011 US Open (final, beat Nadal).
    2012 Australian Open (final, beat Nadal).
    2012 French Open (final, lost to Nadal).
    2012 Wimbledon (semis, lost to Federer).
    2012 US Open (final, lost to Murray).
    2013 Australian Open (final, beat Murray).

    So in terms of his subsequent Slam performances, that 2010 FO quarter-final loss was indeed a turning point for him.
     
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    the Melzer moment: “When Todd came it was counter-productive. We were splitting the weeks between him and me. This process didn’t go well. Somehow Todd didn’t recognise Novak as a holistic person.
    "The chemistry wasn’t there. I was back-stage. I was waiting. I didn’t want to leave because I understand that coaching is a process. I stayed patient because I know with Novak’s talent he wanted to try so much, and he is open. He had a great base but he just wanted to adjust some small things.
    “Even after he came back to me I wanted to work more and he was sometimes escaping. But then when we came to the court, he was focused, he was winning the important points, basically he was a fighter, he would never give up any ball. And then, after he lost to Melzer from two sets up in 2010, he looked at himself. Since then, he has had the momentum.”
    (see OPs quoted article above)

    Think this explains perfectly why Vajda is coaching.
    Nothing against Todd, he was a solid player but I believe he was just tinkering/testing the waters as it were:
    I recall watching them on an outside court at Wimbledon & wondered what the :confused: he was doing with Novak's serve.

    Importantly it has to be 1 message & both the player/coach have to believe, want it. I think this was a turning point for both of them.

    Novak had to be patient and so did Marian - just clearly look at his Major's record as posted by Mainad:
    5 wins 8 finals from 11 outings.
    Boss
     
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