Mark my words, Andy Murray will win the 2009 French Open

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  1. pricey_aus

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    I will revive this thread at the conclusion of the French Open so that I can prove to everyone that I was right!

    Let the pricey_aus bashing begin!:twisted:
     
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    I would love to see this and I dearly hope you are correct, however with Nadal in the mix it will be difficult.
     
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  3. Lionheart392

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    I think a lot of people saying how Murray sucks on clay may be proven wrong this year seeing as he was a far inferior player during the clay season last year. But then again maybe his clay season will be no better this year. I think right now it's totally up in the air and will be very interesting to see. Regarding Roland Garros, I very much doubt he'll win and I wonder how much you honestly believe he will too... :)
     
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  4. wilsondude

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    Thanks for the laugh. I think djokovic can pull it throug if he gets his mental act together.
     
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    Now thats a laugh.
     
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  6. jamesblakefan#1

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    Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is gonna beat Nadal at the French, at least not for the next 4 years if he stays healthy.
     
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  7. wilsondude

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    See i thought so but its not like he doesnt have the skill. he just had a little slump but he won a title this year and just made a final, so it doesnt look too unrealistic.
     
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  8. flying24

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    That is an even bigger laugh than Murray doing it at this point.
     
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  9. cadillac303

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    the only reason nadal would not win the french would be because he was bored and lost focus.
     
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    Get real. Djokovic doesnt have anywhere near the game to beat Nadal on clay even at his best. He also isnt playing nearly as well as he was a year ago while Nadal is only playing even better, and even last year he couldnt beat Nadal on clay, and the only time he came close was a visibly tired Nadal in a best 2-out-of-3 match on fast clay which he still couldnt win.
     
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  11. deltox

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    now thats a huge stretch with the upcoming talent in the field currently.

    personally it hink nadal has a 60%
    fed 15%
    djoker 10%
    Murray 10%
    none of the above 5%
     
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    see, everyone is so confident in Nadal. But this year it is going to be different. Wether Murray plays Rafa in the semi's or final, he will beat him. He has the game and he is alot mentally tougher than last year, where he let Jonathan Eysseric take him to five sets. Sure he wont beat Nadal in the lead in tournaments, but I sense a upset in the making. I am telling you right now, that semi or final, Andy Murray will beat Nadal
     
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    What up coming talent. Name one player who will be able to beat Nadal at the French in the forseeable future.
     
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  14. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    Nadal could be amputated from the knees down and still win the French Open without dropping a set.
     
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    be patient and watch this year develop. it means nothing that i keep saying monfils name. but watch him this year, nobody has the wheels this kid has on court on any surface
     
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  16. rubberduckies

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    Murray is underrated on clay, to be sure.
    People who point to his lack of accomplishments or poor record on the surface don't seem to get that he didn't have accomplishments on any surface prior to his breakthrough last year.
    He will definitely be a factor on clay, and it will be interesting to see how he stacks up.

    That being said, there many players who have the game to beat Nadal on hardcourt. So far, nobody has demonstrated the ability to handle him on clay. I believe Murray will suffer the same fate as Fed and Djoker. They had decent confidence against Nadal before having to play him many times on clay. Murray has that confidence now, but he will likely get humbled in the coming months.
     
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  17. gj011

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    Chances of winning RG 2009:

    Nadal 98 %
    Djokovic 1 %
    Federer 0.6 %
    Murray 0.3 %
    Other 0.1 %
     
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  18. cadillac303

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    I think you're just being a little silly now, but Nadal's chances do have to be around 90% forsure.
     
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    Those odds are ridiculous. Nadal has won the last 4 French Opens, has lost 2 matches on clay in the last 3 years I think, is now playing better than ever which sees him winning big titles on hard courts even, and is only 60%!?!?! Crazy.

    Now looking at some of the others also crazy. Federer is 1-9 vs Nadal on clay lifetime, 0-4 at the French. He is currently struggling even on hard courts, and last year Nadal was far more dominant both overall on clay and at the French vs Federer than ever before. Yet he somehow has 15% chance even vs Nadal himself, let alone winning the French altogether.

    Djokovic at 10%!? Djokovic is 0-5 lifetime vs Nadal on clay, 0-9 sets vs Nadal at the French. Djokovic is playing worse tennis than a year ago and Nadal only better. Djokovic does not even have close to a 10% chance to beat Nadal at the French, let alone win the French altogether with a # of guys who can beat him on clay- Federer, Ferrer, Davydenko, Nalbandian.

    Murray may have improved alot but has shown nothing on clay yet to put him at 10% chance to win the French.

    More realistic odds:

    Nadal 95%
    Federer 2%
    Ferrer 1%
    Djokovic 1%
    the rest combined (Murray included) 1%
     
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  20. charliefedererer

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    The big question about the French Open really is: Can anyone take a set off Nadal?
     
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    Hmmm those are not too bad. We actually agree on something for once. I am not a Nadal fan but the odds of him losing to anyone at this French Open are next to none.
     
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  22. fastdunn

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    It is very clear Murray will improve his performance on clay season this year. His rise started from Wimbledon last year and had relatively poor results on last year's clay season. With his improved fitness and strength, he now returns lots of balls and he will do well on clay season.

    By the end of Roland Garros, his ranking points might rise over 10K.
     
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  23. GameSampras

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    Nadal aint losing the French for another 2 years anyways. After that who knows
     
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    klol..........
     
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    Ha, ha, ha, and ha!
     
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  26. flying24

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    I think that depends mostly on his body. Even in the clay court field improves Nadal is so incredible on clay now he wont lose unless his body breaks down and cause him to slow down and decline. However that could happen with his playing style and the wear and tear on his body. We will just have to wait and see.
     
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  27. wilsondude

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    ya thats why they went three sets at hamburg in semis last year and a tight semi at rg
     
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    Nice to see that we agree finally. I am not Nadal fan too, but I think my odds are pretty accurate.
     
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    Nadal is of course the overwhelming favorite. He's the biggest favorite at the French since Borg was in his prime. However I do think that if Nadal was somehow upset or injured, that Murray would have as good a chance as any of the others.
     
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    The semi at the French wasnt tight. They had only one close set and it was still straight sets. That is not a tight match. I will confess Djokovic put out a better effort than Federer, but Federer will be embarassed by Nadal on clay from now on I think. I think Djokovic will have better matches vs Nadal on clay than Federer will, but it will be near impossible for anyone to beat Nadal, especialy at the French (more chance if ever to happen in smaller events).

    Yes Federer and Djokovic both had a close match with Nadal at Hamburg which was on the fastest clay, with Nadal tired from playing something like 4 weeks in a row. Still good for both of them doing so, just saying it will be alot harder to do on French Open in best 3 of 5. Once they both got on the best 3-of-5 vs a more rested Nadal on the slower French Open clay they were both put in their places and badly outclassed, again Federer even moreso of course.
     
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    LOL, are you joking or what?? i'm not a big fans of rafa, but based on what i saw him playing on the clay court there is NO reason he can't win French open 09, last time i saw him played againts Djokovich on clay for Davis cup match, and he show everybody how to play in clay court......
     
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    Thats a pretty good guess. It is hard to predict.
     
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  33. tomas9848

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    what did murray go in the french open last year.
     
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  34. Nadalfan89

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    Nadal is going to win the French Open without dropping a set this year.
     
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    At least let the boy win a clay tournament before we make this ridiculous prediction.
     
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    I'll send Murray a cookie if he even makes it past the fourth round.
     
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  37. Lendl and Federer Fan

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    Are you willing to make a bet that if Murray doesn't win, you would shave your head like that dude?? :lol:
     
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  38. Josherer

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    How could you make Australians like myself look so bad by such a silly statement?

    I'm dissapointed! :(
     
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  39. Shaolin

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    2009 and 2010 French Opens officially belong to Nadal, unless he shows up on the court with a torn ACL, neck brace and case of mono. Even that may not stop the guy.
     
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    Make us look bad? hahahahahahaha
    It is un-australian to not go for the underdog
    and 2. I am one person who is voicing there opinion. I am not making you look bad at all. You make yourself look bad by saying something like that!
     
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  41. VictorS.

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    Call me old fashioned, but to me, it's extremely hard to predict a player finishing #1 at the end of the year....when they haven't even won a grand slam yet. He's choked on a couple of occasions now, & nobody is making light of this.

    I'll give the guy some credit. He's definitely playing at an extremely high level right now. But Grand Slams are a totally different balgame (best of 5 sets). Let's see this guy prove himself on the big stage first.
     
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  42. roundiesee

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    It's actually a very brave prediction by the OP. Unfortunately there are just too many good clay-courters around, plus Nadal appears to be invincible on this surface the last 4 years and the trend looks likely to continue....
     
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  43. VilasFan

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    I don't think Murray has enough results on clay to predict he'll win the toughest of the 4 GS tournaments. Rafa is the least of his worries. I believe that there are quite a few clay-court players that could take Murray out of the French...before he even gets a shot at Nadal.
     
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  44. bladepdb

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    I'll mark your words and laugh at them and laugh even more at them when Murray fails to win.
     
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  45. ESP#1

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    Fixed it for ya:)

    When has the last time Nadal lost 2 sets at RR?
    How many slams has he won in the last year?
    How many RR has he won in the last four years?

    Come on OP wake up man
     
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  46. bladepdb

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    ESP, I think you need to swap Fed and Murray...Fed's mentally blown to bits right now, whereas Murray is riding a momentum train (which he might fall off by RG). But as of right now when we're predicing this, that's how it should be.
     
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    Monte Carlo will tell a lot.
     
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    no way in hell murray will win the french....i mean he hasnt even won a clay tournamnet and yet ppl think he can win the french? just dumb imo...i'll be reviving this thread after murray gets knocked out...i mena ppl like djoko and tsonga and davydenko have a better chance of winning than him
     
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  49. Harry_Wild

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    It hard to not pick Nadal to win another French! He is so, so solid on the burnt orange clay! It like his playground!
     
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  50. MichaelNadal

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    Ferrer or Verdasco Would have Murray for lunch on clay.
     
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