Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Love Game, Jun 18, 2009.
say it aint so!!!!!!
how does this make you feel?
Heard about the Hernandez-Koelerer one, other than that I don't know.. I'm not too wroked up about this. Never has been proven anything. I don't think any top players will be involved either.
food for thought:
Betting should be forbidden. It is ruining sports.
However, this being said, I can't help but thinking that this is partly bookmakers attempt to avoid paying big winning amounts. It seems that anytime lower ranked player beat higher ranked player they are "raising alarms".
It makes me feel that anything anonymous is just a rumor and I couldn't care less about it.
On the other hand, it's clear lower ranked players are in desperate need of money. That's a shame.
Interesting theory. Could well be.
Is this the match? They seem to really hate each other, hard to believe it was fixed between the two of them.
It does not surprise me at all, when you look at the disparity in earnings and endorsements between say the top 25 in the world and those just out of the top 50-100.
I mean Gulbis is currently ranked 74th in the world and has made $188,000 US, ytd. Subtract playing expenses, and taxes from that and he probably has about 50K to show for all his hard work and talent so far this year.
A guy can be a top 200 ATP pro, play and train for years and really not have a lot to show for it, it is not as if these guys will be set for life financially from the sport.
It does not surprise me at all that matches are fixed, especially when we are talking about players outside the top 25.
Just to clarify which part is annonymous:
"Some players face match-fixing scrutiny at Wimbledon, paper reports
June 18, 2009
CBSSports.com wire reports
LONDON -- A British newspaper reported Thursday that between six and 12 players entered into this year's men's singles draw at Wimbledon are being watched for match-fixing.
The Independent, citing an anonymous source, said the list includes Russians, Italians, Argentines and Spaniards, but did not reveal any names.
The International Tennis Federation would not comment on the report, and Jeff Rees, the head of the Tennis Integrity Unit at the ITF, was not available to answer questions.
The Independent also reported that a match between Oscar Hernandez of Spain and Daniel Koellerer of Austria from the Ordina Open in the Netherlands is being investigated because of unusual betting patterns, and a match from Kitzbuehel, Austria, last month is also "of concern." The paper reported that one match at the Monte Carlo Masters in April -- Jean-Rene Lisnard's win over Christophe Rochus -- led bookies to deny payments to winners.
Tennis has been hounded by match-fixing rumors since online betting exchange Betfair, in an unprecedented move, voided bets on a match in Poland in 2007 after fourth-ranked Nikolay Davydenko withdrew against 87th-ranked Martin Vassallo Arguello in the third set because of a foot injury.
In response to both the Davydenko match and other players speaking out about being approached by outsiders trying to influence a match, the ITF and other tennis governing bodies formed the Tennis Integrity Unit to keep the sport clean.
Since then, several players have been suspended or fined for betting on matches.
Wimbledon, arguably the most prestigious tennis tournament on the calendar, starts Monday at the All England Club."
Can you make the font a little bigger, Love Game?
i'm gonna watch that video, but i think what the concern is, is that one player (all on his own) could decide (in order to help a betting friend of his make money on a bet) to "tank" any particular match.
tens of thousands of $? all that trouble?
yes. but that's how much he has made in tennis matches ytd. i always think of gulbis and fognini together in this regard as a couple of attractive players who probably make millions on their clothing, racquet, footwear, etc., endorsements!
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