Match-Ups from 2 "Golden Ages"

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  1. GregHenley

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    Fellow Boarders-

    I might have posted this in the wrong place 1st time around so I am trying to correct myself...

    I am one of those suckers who dream of seeing certain matches that.....they can never see. I would LOVE to see a 3 on 3 match featuring our current "gold age" stars---Federer, Nadal, Djokovic---play the three stars of the most recent other "golden age"---McEnroe, Borg, and Connors. I'd pay half my retirement account to see it! Sadly, the money is safe. ( Sorry Murray---though Murray-Lendl WOULD be fun!)

    I would do it as only 3 matches too. 1984 McEnroe against Roger. 1980 Borg against Rafa, and hmm...Connors against Djokovic. Not sure what vintage of Connors I'd use. '74, '82? I just picked years for the vintage golder age guys because I know they are up against it. The most interesting match to me would be Djoker-Connors. Who has the best chance to stay close? Probably McEnroe in my mind. Just his extinct style of play and unique virtuosity might---might--surprise.

    What do you think? What outcome? What scores?

    Greg Henley
     
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  2. treblings

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    leaving aside that you call the present a golden age and neglect sampras-agassi-becker and others.
    since these are your dream match-ups i would ask you to elaborate:)
    on which surfaces are the matches played and with what kind of rackets?
    borg-nadal with wooden rackets on 70´s grass for example could be very close, imo
     
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  3. robow7

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    I agree, all your match ups would be fun.

    I know I've stated this before but I think it would be very difficult for today's players to handle the mentality of playing with wooden racquets and gut. It's not their fault mind you but they would have to consider better how to construct a point. It would demand of them that they hit an approach shot knowing that it will likely come back and they will have to hit a volley. Right now if they get any type of a short ball (and a short ball continues to get deeper in the court all the time), they can rip a winner and often even a dozen feet behind the baseline. That won't happen and though most serves won't be as fast, returning with such a small racquet will be tough. Wood and gut and Rafa and Fed will have to adjust that they can't get the ball up and down so quickly for those incredible angles that we now almost take for granted. Throw in a faster surface and we might be surprised.
     
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  4. jrepac

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    Aside from Borg, Mac and Connors evolved to using graphite racquets. So maybe everyone gets a present day midsize stick...let's say the latest Pro-Staff, just to make it consistent. The old guys hit winners off of short balls too; I'd say today's guys really don't hit what I'd call an approach shot. They just go for winners, as you say.
     
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  5. pc1

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    Bill Tilden against Roger Federer. If it's wood racquets give Federer some time to adjust. If it's today's racquets give Tilden some time to adjust.

    To me this is an interesting matchup because of the tennis genius of Tilden. Tilden was a great analyst with a great variety of strokes. He was always learning and adapting to the game to try to improve.

    Both are excellent baseliners with wonderful movement. I'd be curious to see what Tilden would devise against Federer. Maybe nothing would work but I would be fascinated on what he would do.
     
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  6. kiki

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    Laver-Hoad-Rosewall-Gonzales...that is THE REAL GOLDEN TENNIS..provided equal equipment and in absolute values, this 4 outclass anything else, IMO
     
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  7. GregHenley

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    I have seen a very old instuctional video of Tilden. His strokes were highlighted in the video and I do not think he would match up with Roger using ANY equipment. It's just tooo far back to go...

    For the matches I mention...I would let each player choose their own equipment.

    For Fed v Mac.....Grass

    For Rafa v Borg....clay

    for Novak v Connors....hard court.
     
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  8. treblings

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  9. Limpinhitter

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    We've all seen those instructional videos. Have you seen any video of Tilden in match play? Big difference.
     
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