[Merged]Stick a fork in Roger! Done and should retire

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  1. Inner Game

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    Sad to say Rogers done.....too much jet setting, endorsement appearances and not enough attention to tennis...Now he's lost a step and he'll never win another major unless its a fluke upset or injury to the other top 5 guys....I bet even Tsonga could kick his butt now!
     
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  2. federerdomination

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    Why should he retire? He loses to someone who is of a very high caliber. That is not shocking. In fact, considering the H2H going into this match, one could argue that Fed was the underdog.

    So fed has trouble with a few players but can't beat just about everyone else on tour....

    Therefore he should retire? WHAT???

    Then everyone not named Nadal or Murray (or Djokovic) should also all retire because they can't beat Nadal or Murray either? What about all the people who lost in the first round? Should they retire?


    What about the people who didn't even make it into the tournament? Should they all retire at this instant?

    Should we make the ATP tour a 2 man battle with Nadal and Murray playing each other for every title?
    Copy from other thread:

    Even the best of the best lose sometimes. What about Nadal's 6-0, 6-1 (something like that) loss to Youzney (spelling) or Tsonga's beatdown of Nadal at AO 2008? What about when Murray lost to Fed at the USO?

    Do u think they should have retired after those losses?



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    How do u know he won't win a major again? Let's see. He's been in the semis at the past 19 GSs!

    To anyone who knows anything about tennis, it is obvious Fed gives himself a shot at winning every slam very consistently. Should I also mention he's been in the past 3 GS finals?
     
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  3. Nadal_Freak

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    I agree. Fed should've retired by now. What's the hold up?
     
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  4. VivalaVida

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    Yawn! The guy loses one match and he is down the gutter :rolleyes: Let me know when Roger starts to lose during the first week of all majors. Next!
     
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  5. GameSampras

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    Its only Indian Wells and he lost to Murray. Its not like he lost to Roddick at a slam final
     
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  6. Okazaki Fragment

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    Nah. The guy's problem is that he has too much empathy. Look at what happened today. He was about to take control of the match until Murray had a bad spill. Didn't win a game after that.

    Federer needs to stop caring about his opponents. He doesn't have to have utter comptempt for them like Nadal but he does need to stop crying. He needs to embrace his dark side and become Darth Federer.
     
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  7. federerdomination

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    Exaxtly. Fed is still getting very far in the majors and more consistently that bascially everyone else on tour. If Fed loses early at a couple majors in a row, then ur point has more validity.
     
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  8. icedevil0289

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    Fully agree!!!
     
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  9. T1000

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    FAIL. Fed consistently goes deep in tournaments and never goes out early. when he starts losing first and second rounds to nobodies then he should reitre.
     
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  10. Inner Game

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    I love Roger....but the old Roger was much tougher mentally! He wasn't Mr. nice guy....He was a mean SOB....He kicked butt....he threw racquets when he missed easy shots and actually had some fire in his belly....
    Now he's to soft....too contented....nothing wrong with that....but unless he gets that mean streak back he's done...I guess a couple of hundred million dollars would make anyone content...
     
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  11. luckyboy1300

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    federer needs to fix his backhand! ASAP! it's what letting him down and what will let him down more in the future.
     
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  12. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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  13. BONZO13

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    .........You people arent even worth my time to tell you why you are so terribly wrong.
     
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  14. oneguy21

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    There is no reason for him to retire when he's inside the top 3.
     
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    cut this guy a friggin break....he just came off of injury and made it to the semi finals of an ATP 1000 event...what more can u expect?....
     
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  16. samster

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    I saw today's match with Fed/Murray. Fed has lost the mental toughness and confidence (at least at this time). We all know in tennis, confidence and mental toughness are important to win close matches. These two things are what Fed is lacking right now.
     
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  17. kimbahpnam

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    LOL.........
     
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  18. Mungo73

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    then he should have retired last year :twisted:
     
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  19. hotseat

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    so when murray beats nadal tomorrow are we going to debate how nadal should retire too?
     
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    Count the ammount of tournaments he went out to nobodies..Doha..unless you want so Karlovic or Simon was a nobody..Simon was top 10 last year Karlovic I guess you can say he should have won but he wasn't some ranked 80 guy. He went out early in noteven half the tournaments he played. Not even a third.. I think it was 4 out of 19 in total and one was to a rising top player who would beat both number 1s of last year.
     
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  21. Mungo73

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    haha Nadal is number one and AO champion, Fed is not

    Nadal is in the final, Fed is not
     
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  22. Feña14

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    I'll be impressed if he does, after his illness I didn't really see him going all the way here. I thought that if he played to his seeding and got to the semi's then that would be a good comeback and a nice spring board onto Miami.

    He played really well today though and if he were to beat Nadal, it would be the 4th time in a row! Hopefully he can do it.
     
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  23. saram

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    If Murray beats Rafa tomorrow, will you stop being such a flaming ****?
     
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  24. EndLy

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    lol, honestly he probably doesn't really care about these events anymore. the thing is, if he wants to be #1 again he needs to care.

    but the bottom line is, the most important thing to him is the slams
     
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  25. Tennis_Bum

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    I could be bias but I didn't see Murray did anything special today. Fed was kind of pathetic but Murray was just pushing the ball back and pretty much used his legs and hope for Fed to really go after him and of course in the process made a ton of errors. That was how I saw the match, but all and all I was not happy with the way Fed played and even worst, he didn't fight as hard.

    You can play crappy tennis any day but your fighting spirit should not waver the way Fed's did today.

    That's just how I saw it. SAD.
     
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  26. egn

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    Fed is #2 and AO runner up and went to the semi finals of every tournament he has been in this year..granted its 3 but thats 3 tournaments 3 semi finals. Losing to Murray in 2 and Nadal in 1. He is slumping against two players..why retire? Why not just try to beat them? I think he will eventually snap that losing streak.
     
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  27. Feña14

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    Murray actually played pretty well and he said he felt it was the best he's played against Federer, especially in the first set and start of the 3rd where he wrestled the advantage away.

    I remember one game where he it was 30-30 I think and he played a magnificent point followed by a huge ace, then in the 3rd he produced a few impossible shots to get ahead in the score and didn't look like losing from then on.

    I like Federer alot and there is no doubt his heart wasn't in it as much as it probably should of been, but he said after the better player on the day won and that's about right.
     
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  28. JeMar

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    As long as he doesn't lose to some dude ranked 212 at Wimbledon or have a losing record against James-******-Blake, he's alright.
     
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  29. hotseat

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    it boggles my mind why anyone would even suggest federer should retire. ya, he's not the undisputed best player in the world anymore like he was for such a long time. federer fans will (or should at least) readily admit that. bottom line is, he's one grand slam away from tying pete's record, two slams from breaking it. he's 27 and is never going to consistently dominate and win 3/4 slams EVERY year, but guess what!?

    HE DOESN'T HAVE TO..........

    Sampras won a slam at what was it? 31 or 32? Roger's only 27. yes, that's a lot of years compared to guys like Nadal and Murray, but quit fooling yourself.

    Roger won a slam last year. he made the FINALS of all the others. nearly won wimbledon, nearly won this last aussie.

    retirement? oh, please........ take your biased, fanboi hat off and give a guy credit where it's due. just because he doesn't win 3/4 slams every year anymore doesn't mean he's done you silly little geese.
     
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  30. Toxicmilk

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    then everyone other than rafa should retire too, no?
     
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  31. thalivest

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    Come on now, would you want to be denied the privilege of seeing Nadal and Murray beat him over and over again, and his obvious frusteration and angst in experiencing that. :)
     
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  32. Toxicmilk

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    These matches can get pretty epic. so no way I'd want fed to retire atm.
     
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    The forum.........back to its old tricks.........again.
     
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  34. THERAFA

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    The reason why people are saying Federer should retire is that he will keep facing Rafa in every Slam Final and it will get embarassing for him to play the role of tearful bridesmaid FOUR times per year, so retirement is the only way to avoid TBS:
    Tearful
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  35. Safinator_1

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    Feds no.2 in the world by a mile there is absolutely no reason for him to retire in fact one might argue Nadal would retire before Fed with the way he plays
     
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  36. fednad

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    If *intelligent posters* like you do not retire from this board still, he will do just fine in the tennis circuit (win or loss not withstanding).
     
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  37. Safinator_1

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    What else is new whenever Fed loses a match lol
     
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  38. THERAFA

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    If Federer tried to play Rafa's style of tennis he would have a short career but Rafa can play any number of years and is only troubled by tendinitis which is not a real injury its just a condition that is reset by rest, even Michael Jordan (and don't forget the Williams sisters wrist tendinitis) had knee tendinitis from 1991 until his final season in 2003 (and in that final season he was the only player in his team to play all:
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  39. The Don

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    WOOOW!!! you guys are lucky you have the tennis channel. I cant watch the indian wells cuz i dont have the channel. but damn Roger lost. I wonder who will win the Nadal vs roddick match
     
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  40. Safinator_1

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    The way he plays can be risky especially if he takes a wrong turn anything could happen and his knees are indeed god like to tennis but anything could happen
     
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  41. Giggs The Red Devil

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    Federer is playing as poorly as Nadal will be playing in two years time. He should take a long vacation in Siberia.
     
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  42. THERAFA

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    Rafa won't ever have technical faults in his game, and he will play great tennis well past:
    THIRTY
     
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  43. fednad

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    These top players never *develop* technical faults. They just get a ste slower which affect there shot making and manifests itself as technical flaw to spectators.
    Let him slow down and lose a step (happens to all), then we will see.
     
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  44. tahiti

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    Roger still get 350 points or so which is a step up from what he won last year at iW. Sure Fed is going for the slams record which I'm sure he'll get, but as a finalist in most of them, the point difference if he wins them will not get him the no.1 spot back, unless Rafa has a bad run.
     
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  45. THERAFA

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    It's like the tennis Gods conspired to make Federer's career as heartbreaking as possible, he won 12 slams and then the tennis Gods said "Fed doesn't have any more slams left in him but let's make Murray choke so Fed gets within ONE slam of Pete's record and then we'll make it so Rafa never lets him tie:
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  46. tahiti

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    Mark my words TheRafa. Fed will equal that record and break it. Setting the benchmark for Rafa.
     
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  47. P_Agony

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    Nah...Fed's style can hold his career until 30+. Can't say the same for Nadal though.
     
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  48. CocaCola

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    Should Federer retire now just like Henin did?

    I think Fed want's to retire so bad after his recent results but the only thing that keep's him alive is that 15 GS titles...but I think he shoud retire at the and of this year if he stays on 13...
    Henin did the right thing - she retired when she started to sink...
     
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  49. sureshs

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    That is a good idea, because Nadal is going to win 15 Slams and become the GOAT in any case.
     
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  50. tahiti

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    I think Fed should retire at the end of this year when he has his 14 or 15 slams. Not that I want that, but it's fair on Mirka and kid. Who wants to be lugged around all the time. Not very stable for the Fedlite.
     
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