Message to Nadal : please skip the WTF !

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  1. The Dark Knight

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    All this player quotes were talking about singles . I know it's a big leap for someone as biased as you ......and yet it's the truth .

    And it matters to you as well....that's why you photoshopped the picture to make it seem like Federer won an Olympic gs in singles .....he didnt ....deal with it.
     
  2. Nope. I am not biased at all.


    A doubles gold means nothing in the GOAT debate.

    However the reason the Olympics is so important is that it is such a big competition, the history, representing your country and winning a gold medal. In these terms a singles gold is no different to a doubles gold.

    Also I didn't Photoshop it you clown. I was very happy when Federer/Stan won gold as roger became an Olympic champion and got his hands on that elusive gold medal. This is because I am a Federer fan and not obsessed with the GOAT debate.
     
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  3. Crose

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    Why exactly are Djokovic trolls on this thread? This is about Rafa fans and Rafa's schedule.

    But because they're here already, I'd like to point out that Nadal owns Djokovic now, and will always be remembered as the greater player.
     
  4. VPhuc tennis fan

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    Really, so 2011 was so far in the past when Rafa got beaten 3 out 4 slams by Djoker? Convenient, huh? Selective memory?
    How this year at AO? Rafa owned Djoker too? Where was Rafa at the last Wimby? In the final against Murray when Djoker lost in the 1st round? Also BTW where was Rafa at last year WTF, nursing his sore knees and playing poker where Djoker faced a cane-walking (?)Fed in the final? Talking about "owning", huh?
     
  5. The Dark Knight

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    Well then I ask you .....why in every article I read the journalists all talk about that Nadal has a gold but Federer has zero ....by the way they also point out that Fed has no Davis cup whereas Nadal has I think 4?

    What is missing from l articles is the WTF. No one talks about it as a factor .....ya know why ? Because it's not .

    As for you photo shopping ....yeah you did . You posted a pic of Fed with a gold and warwinka cut completely out of the picture .

    It's obvious why you did did that and even you believe that Feds Olympic doubles gold is a bit hollow.
     
  6. tennisjedi

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    I think it's best if Nadal skip Basel and Shanghai. After the China Open
    He should only play Paris and WTF two tournaments he hasn't win yet.
     
  7. Clarky21

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    Why are you bringing up Nadal for most of those tournaments when he was out injured, and didn't even play them? What a troll you are, and a lousy one at that.
     
  8. The Dark Knight

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    Cane walking Fed ? Are you on drugs?

    I think you must be referring to the time Fed beat 35 year old agassi who quite literally could not walk . Is that the slam you are referring to ? Because Fed is moving just fine .
     

  9. That is the first image on google. You think I photoshopped it?, My respect for you decreases further and further with every post. You though Nadal beat Federer at the Olympics, your lack of tennis knowledge really undermines your every post.


    In terms of the GOAT debate Nadal has a gold and Federer doesn't. Well done to Nadal.


    However the quotes you used undermined your argument as they were not about winning a singles gold. You made a fool of yourself and I have highlighted this so you can correct it and not continue to make a fool of yourself in the future.
     
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  10. VPhuc tennis fan

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    That's in response of "Rafa owns Djoker" comment from the poster Crose.
    To you specifically, Rafa was injured at this year AO? How about Wimby 2013? Injured as well? How about 2011 when he got beaten by Djoker 3 out 4 GS finals? Injured as well? If not for Fed, it would have been 4 out 4!!! All injured then? Again, selective memory from you and the Crose guy? Am I a troll? Well, at least I don't make argument like "owns somebody" lightly like that.
     
  11. VPhuc tennis fan

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    I wanted to point out through my examples how I think "Rafa owns Djoker" (!!!), in agreement with the poster Crose. Yeah, talking about being owned?!!! No one talked about when Rafa got beaten 3 out 4 GS in 2011. Again if not for that old, over-the-hill, cane-walking Fed at that year FO, that would have been 4 out 4!!! Owing, who to who, huh?
     
  12. The_Order

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    Hey VPhuc, just so you know, it wasn't in 3/4 finals in 2011, AO was 2012.
     
  13. RF20Lennon

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    Nadal needs atleast 2 WTF's come on!
    Davis cup isnt an individual event so it doesnt matter
    Nadal has 1 gold and zero WTF's
    Fed has a silver and 6 WTF's

    I think its pretty obvious which career is better.
     

  14. 5 YE #1 - 3 YE#1

    300 weeks also
     
  15. TMF

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    Davis Cup is the ultimate team sport and we're not concern about which nation is the best. As an individual performance, one can use the win/loss percentage. But again, it get skewed because most of the events were played on clay.


    Actually Nadal only has 2 YE#1. This year either Nole or Nadal will win the YE#1.
     
  16. The Dark Knight

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    Why? No sportscaster or anyone talks about WTF as a measure of greatness. Only here at TW ....but we are talking about the real world.

    On the other hand every publication expert or all of famer all talk about the olynpics and Davis cup as a criteria for greatness.

    I know you would like WTF to be a criteria .....but the fact is that it's not .
     
  17. The Dark Knight

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    Yes Nadals....at 27 Nadal has done much more than Federer at 27 and Nadal has done it against Federer himself and a lot tougher field than Baghdatis. .....and Nadal has missed at least three slams and by some accounts 7 slams throughout his career.
     
  18. The Dark Knight

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    You think when Murray won his gold he was talking about doubles ???

    You think Agassi was talking about doubles even though he won in singles ?

    What about Nadal? ....come on .....

    First you photoshop a picture to make it look like Fed won a gold medal singles and now you are trying to say that all the players quotes about how important a gold medal is pertains only to doubles?

    Can you possibly be more dishonest ?
     
  19. Ok it is now obvious, no-one can be as stupid as you are pretending to be.
    Fair play, for a while i thought you were just an idiot.
     
  20. I think Rafa has got this. 2013 WTF should.be his too.
     
  21. The Dark Knight

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    And then the alarm rang and you woke up and realized that actually you are the idiot :)

    ( one look at your name is a dead give away :) )
     
  22. I would not expect you aka the king troll to understand the true meaning of my name.

    Also your tennis knowledge is pathetic, so your opinion doesn't matter. You lost all respect whenever it became clear you didnt know who MRaonic was.
     
  23. Cuqui

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    Federer already win Olympics...
    And don´t need to read what other people in tw think about WTF.
    I play, teach and watch tennis for over 30 years, so for sure, it's not the opinion of a batman that will change my mind
     
  24. TennisCJC

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    WTF is a between the majors and masters in importance. All the great players have won it and it is major hole in Nadal's resume. The fact that he has not won it reflects his "relative weakness" on faster indoor surfaces. Just like the fact that Federer's difficulty winning the French reflected his "relative weakness" against Nadal on clay. Nadal is a great player but to say WTF is an "exhibition" is not fair to the long list of great champions that have won it including Agassi, Federer, Sampras, Guga, Djoko, and many more.
     
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    By the way, the reports from the players and commentators last year said the O2 has slowed down the surface a bit. So, if it is slow again this year, Nadal has his window of opportunity. It was a bit faster a couple of years ago when Federer won.
     
  26. The Dark Knight

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    If it's so important why is it never discussed as a criteria for greatness as is Davis cup and the Olympics ?
     
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    No he didn't . You can lie to yourself a you want but it won't make it true .

    Warwinka and Federer won a gold in the Olympics but that's a very different thing .
     
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    Was the doubles gold plated differently than singles ?
     
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    Unreal denial here. If you cannot figure out why a doubles gold is not the same thing a singles gold, then I don't know what to tell you.
     
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    WTF is when the top 8 players come and play and have the final showdown. The fact that Nadal hasnt been able to best of all them even ONCE is saying something.
     
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    which sportscaster?? PMac and Cahill have mentioned Rafa not winning the world tour final numerous times and so has Andrew Castle in fact. But think about it, if the WTF was no biggie why can Nadal seem to win?? Surely the great Rafa Nadal could've picked up a couple of those. Or does he strictly not want to win them??
     
  33. The Dark Knight

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    Only to a fed fan.....no where else does that round robin three ring circus matter to anyone .

    Fed fans are desperate to cling to something ....anything on their false God.

    Just look at this thread....show me even one fed fan who cares if Nadal skips the WTF.

    Ya know why ? It's because no one gives a sheet. It means zilch.

    I'll take one Olympics over 20 WTF's.
     
  34. RF20Lennon

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    Awh! getting sour are we? cause poor waffy couldnt pick up a title in all these years?? :(
     
  35. The Dark Knight

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    Prove it. Go ahead I dare ya.

    No one gives a sheet about it.

    But Jmac and everyone else for that matter talks about the fact that Nadal has a gold medal while fed has not.

    ( singles gold that is....obviously t everyone except distortion king fed fans).
     
  36. RF20Lennon

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    Well you could but then you wouldn't be GOAT. Plus WTF draws crowds. It's just that Nadal fans like you still cant bear the fact that Nadal couldnt even pick up ONE of those. Surely a great man like him couldve picked up a couple despite him not having any interest as you claim.
     
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    No....couldn't give a sheet about wtf.

    Waffy has the Olympics. The fifth slam...the golden slam......something Federer will never do in his life !

    (and yes still singles federites )
     
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    Why should he skip it. He is owning this year on hard courts and has a great shot to win it. It is really his to lose right now.
     
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    Who is this "everyone else"? And no one is denying that Nadal won the olympics singles gold. Its just that Fed has won 6 WTF's in which the top 8 compete and it happens every year and for some reason Nadal hasnt been able to win. He cant best the top 8 players for the tournament that they all play year round to qualify for.
     
  40. RF20Lennon

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    LOL no wonder you like Batman and Rafa. They both come second place to the main lead attractions. Superman and Federer. You seem to have a fascination for people who are not first. Let me guess...Buzz Aldrin is your fav astronaut? :twisted:
     
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    mmmm.........funny coming from someone who doesn't "give a sheet" about the WTF.
     
  42. VPhuc tennis fan

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    You know, RF20Lennon, for the world of me I cannot understand the logic behind the begging for Rafa to skip WTF! Look, let's just pretend I just learn what tennis is all about. Then I look at what Rafa has done this season: finalist at AO, winner at FO, loser at Wimby (let's put it on a bad luck day, shall we, for the sake of the discussion), then winner at USO, and let's not forget a 21-0 on HC this season. Well, no need to know anything else, this guy (Rafa) seems to have it all to win WTF, correct? So why skip it, for the sake of ...what really? Rest for AO, a tourney 2 months later? Really that long a rest for such a beast (as our dear TDK loves to call him)! Rest his knees? Really? Can anyone say his knees when he won USO? Hardly no one, right? So Rafa can just roll in, eyes closed, and rolls out with the WTF trophy! So why skip? The fear to face the top 8 in a single tourney, day in day out until the final (if he makes it of course)? And even that, this year top 8 including the declining Fed may be ONE of the WEAKEST top 8 in tennis history, no? Fed: too old now, DelPo: injured, Berdie:a mental weakling, Tsonga: a known choker, Murray: injured, out for the season, Ferrer: if TDK calls Fed being Rafa's prison bit**ch, then what's Ferrer, sub-bit***ch! LOL. Who else is there besides Djoker, really? So why skip unless you're just a weakling yourself, yes?
     
  43. The Dark Knight

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    I don't want Rafa to waste his precious time and energy on this b.s. of a circus event.
     
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    I have to side with general dark knight:

    it is too risky for the knee. this could end all his forward momentum.

    he has the world by the balls now. he has them all on the ropes. its time to beat them to death.

    and the best part of all this that the federereeeeeesian missionaries can no longer sleep. they lay awake in a terrified state at night. they think the great clay warrior king is coming for them too.


    he is. he is coming for you.
     
  45. Murrayfan31

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    Nadal never won WTF. Huge hole in his achievements if he wants to be considered one of the all-time greats. Federer is way ahead of him due to WTF.
     
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    how about 35-40 masters shields? how about 17-18 slams? how about 10-11 RG crowns? who the hell is going to talk about wtf then?

    wtf is a gong show at best. we watch because we love tennis but it is a 3 ring circus. only thing missing is color blind circus clowns.
     
  47. The Dark Knight

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    According to who?

    Certainly not anyone of any importance whatsoever.

    TW biased federites don't count.
     
  48. RF20Lennon

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    N.S.K you really seem to be declining old friend. You do not carry the same ferocity as back in the day.
     
  49. RF20Lennon

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    You have to admit it is a hole in the resume. The top 8 players compete and Nadal hasnt been able to snag one title. Whether you like it or not its still a legit tournament and it awards more points than a masters. So it is important.
     
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    who needs a resume when you own the world`s greatest players?

    keep an eye on that #13. it is about to get a little bigger.
     

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