Mikeler's Multis

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  1. ls206

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    Hmm.. odd. It's the first string in a new racquet - do you think that could cause it? Although the Intellitour was also strung in a new racquet with no pinging.
     
  2. mikeler

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    You got me there. For such a soft string, I can't imagine why you feel a ping. I'd expect that from polys but not most multis (if any).
     
  3. Korso

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    Hmm.. odd. It's the first string in a new racquet - do you think that could cause it? Although the Intellitour was also strung in a new racquet with no pinging.

    What racket are you using and do you use a rubber band or dampener?
     
  4. ls206

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    It's an Angell sport racquet so it's foam filled. Dampener is a Samprass O
     
  5. Muppet

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    It might have something to do with the grommets setting in place in the first string job for the new racquet.
     
  6. mikeler

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    I restrung my B5E/ThB setup last night. It played terrific at 52/56 but was giving me some minor elbow issues. Dropped both to 48 but did not test it today so I could try out the Ashaway Monogut ZX Red 1.27. Maybe I just had a good day but I really like this string so far.
     
  7. Lukhas

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    End of my ride with Pro's Pro Hex Multi (Hex Multi knock-off). Broke on an off center hit near the vib' dampener. Didn't hit hard, I'm no hard hitter anyway. When I cut it, I realised it was pretty worn at some points, with clay and yellow clouds the balls left, but the hexagonal pattern was mostly still present. And I had used Elasto-Cross, but didn't break where I expected it would: near the sweetspot. Which means I need to progress on my technique. Was a nice ride, average pop just nice for me in my low powered frame, good spin, nice muted feeling, despite the smell of it: strong plasticizer smell. First time I ever break a string, but I did hit much more lately since I had some sun. The tension was dropping so was about to restring, but did not think the racquet would force me to first.

    I have one more set of it. Going to string it 1kg higher but won't pre-stretch it, despite it being a stretchy string, to see if it plays better since I'm not supposed to pre-stretch a s-gut. I hesitate between going up 1 or 2 kgs, although since it's a s-gut, tension maintenance won't be great anyway.

    As a matter it was during a lesson. My teacher lent me one of his racquets, an Head Team something. 102in² frame, light, and HH from my guesses. Very powerful, likely strung at a good tension with a mono, didn't hurt. Grip size too small for my bug hands. Was a nightmare. Granted, there was a lot of spin, but it's so powerful I hesitated between swinging very fast to brush a bit more, or blocking everything away. Serves were off too (I'm no good server at all, but still), although I did not warmed up that part of my game. I play with a more heavy racquet, smaller head size of 95in², rather HL, bigger grip, much less powerful. Never again... :lol:

    Say, what are people's experience with tension maintenance and multi with cores like Prince PA, Technifibre XR1 or XR3? Might go that way next.
     
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  8. djNEiGht

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    I haven't been playing much since the I strung it up. It seems to be notching.

    Would you be interested in re-testing this string since you had some variables last time you hit with it?
     
  9. mikeler

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    Maybe in the fall. I'm enjoying my hot weather poly/multi hybrids now.
     
  10. djNEiGht

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    LMK. I have a reel of 16g
     
  11. mikeler

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    Do you live near their store? Just curious what made you buy the string.

    I'm currently playtesting Ashaway Monogut ZX in this thread:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=461439

    Not getting much initial love so far, but I like the string.
     
  12. djNEiGht

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    I believe their store is out of San Diego and I'm in Los Angeles. I was lent a stringing machine and was looking for a reel to learn on and went with Volkl Classic Synthetic (on sale at a local shop for very cheap). During Indian Wells, Tier-One had a sale on their sets and reels for 50% off so I just went for a reel.

    So far have only hit with it in a hybrid (both as a main and a cross) with a smooth poly. I put it in my brother-in-law's AG100 (normally plays syn gut) and he likes the feedback and the extra pop he is getting form it.

    I missed out on the string test (either not picked or lost in the mail). I have a batch of various polys and hope to find one I'd like enough to get a reel and cross up with my syn/multi.
     
  13. Lukhas

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    So, nobody?
     
  14. Ramon

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    PPA definitely holds tension very well. I have Raquetune logs to prove it. Can't comment on the other ones.
     
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    Agreed. Check out the link to my PPA review in post #1 of this thread.
     
  16. Lukhas

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    Well I felt "Perfect for my game" was a bit vague... But if it's confirmed it's nice, but I hope it's the same with all similar strings.
     
  17. mikeler

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    I typically say that if the tension works for me or if I'd go up or down in tension if I used the string again. Not sure why that is vague.
     
  18. Lukhas

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    Well that's why it's not vague for you, but a bit more for me. It's so much based on feeling and hitting. For me, tension maintenance is about after how many hours the string looses too much tension for it to be correctly usable anymore. Hence why "perfect for my game" isn't precise enough for me... But that's just me.
     
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    I have a tension maintenance segment above the tension segment which is only to discuss whether I felt I picked the right tension.
     
  20. Lukhas

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    Hence my more precise question. :) Thanks for the answers.
     
  21. Lukhas

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    So, second run in Hex Multi. Did not played yet. No pre-stretch this time, raised the tension of about 1.5kg. 1kg for summer (and it's gonna rain for a month), 0.5kg for non-prestretch for a grand total of 25.5/24.5 on a 95in² racquet. Quite a lot, but I like firm feeling and the racquet is soft.

    Contrary to the first time, the string's coating is smooth. It snaps back better too (not like poly of course); which is decent given the tension I asked for. Seems pre-stretching s-gut definitely wasn't a good idea, like I already wrote but disregarded anyway.

    Will hit with it tomorrow normally.
     
  22. Rozroz

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    Mikeler, i am confused now..

    after switching back to BHB7/ThunderBlast i had no choice but to ditch it and go back to full BHB7 at 52lb (which is great btw).

    you ask why? well i strung the TB as far up as 52/56, and i still just couldn't play. no control, balls flying long all over. this was the 3rd time i've tried and had to cut after one play :(
    so if this is the case i better stick to full poly? (no pain or string breaking for me).
     
  23. mikeler

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    Do what works best for you.
     
  24. Lukhas

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    Higher tension+subpar weather+95in² headsize=stiff like a board. Granted, I don't have pain, but no power whatsoever. It also robs the string of its capacity to move and snap back. So it doesn't move, but it doesn't snap back either... Going 1.5kg up with poor, humid and not hot enough weather was too much it seems. Next time I'll drop one kg to see. Although since it's a s-gut, that will quickly change.
     
  25. mikeler

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    I always wait 24 hours to let the strings lose their initial tension.
     
  26. Ronaldo

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    Try to tell players to wait a day before using their new stringjob before complaining it is too taut.
     
  27. ricki

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    When I strung Wilson Red Alert at 25 kgs it was stiffest stringbed Ive ever seen (felt). After one week it became softer and it keeps tension very well after that.
     
  28. mikeler

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    Strung up B5E 17/Dunlop DNA 16 last night at 50#. Felt a little tighter than I was expecting coming off the stringer. Might try DM and PPA crosses and see who wins the battle of the B5E crosses.
     
  29. Lukhas

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    I did. I never played the same day I get my racquet since I don't string and therefore I have to plan in advance. Tension was too high anyway for the weather and racquet.
     
  30. mikeler

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    Kind of strange there is that much difference with just a few pounds of tension.
     
  31. Ronaldo

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    Like 7 to 9%
     
  32. Lukhas

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    Temperature + tension IMO. We were on average in the 25°C (77°F) in end April to early May with bright sun, sometimes lower or higher. Now we are in the 16°C in the afternoon (61°F), windy and rainy (so even cooler), and it will be like this during the whole June month apparently. About 12°C in the morning, which is when I played. Not very cold, but heavy. Which means we're going to play Roland-Garros during Wimbledon at this rate... :lol: We'll see Friday, I'm supposed to hit that day. EDIT: And temperatures will drop further down, in the 12°C (54°F) or even lower at the end of the week. Rising a bit next week to roughly 15/18°C, but still the rain.
     
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  33. mikeler

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    Wise guy! Good one though...
     
  34. Francis27

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    How long do multifilaments last? and go dead?
     
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    No review on Head Fibergel Power 16g?
     
  36. mikeler

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    Depends on the string really for durability. I've had some that only last 2 sets and other strings that I cut out. Most don't go dead but some do have a shelf life where they won't break but then don't play quite as well.


    I have not been overly impressed with Head multis.
     
  37. Ramon

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    I tried the discontinued Fibergel Spin 16g one time. It was so bad I cut it after one match. It ranks up there with the worst strings I ever tried.
     
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    Good info. Probably the same string as the Power but with a different coating.
     
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    Actually I think the difference is bigger than that. I think the Spin is a monofilament and the Power is a multi (not sure if it has a solid core or not). Still, I was so dissatisfied with it, even the name just scares me now.
     
  40. mikeler

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    Hit 2 minutes last night with the Dunlop DNA as a cross for B5E. Stringbed is a mess after that short time. Feels nice though.
     
  41. Ramon

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    I just bought 2 sets of Dunlop DNA based on your review. I'm anxious to try it out once my Pacific Classic 16L breaks. I still think natural gut is king, but it's just so expensive and I hate it when I get a set that breaks prematurely because of one weak area. Classic 16L is particularly nice. It maintained tension even when my bag was damp, and the feel is spoiling me. I'll probably be upset when this one breaks.
     
  42. Francis27

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    When you say PPA stiffens up at the end will it still be arm friendly? hoping to string it up at 58-59lbs on a pd2012
     
  43. Lukhas

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    It's arm friendly since it's a multi, even though it has 3 mono cores. You racquet and tension aren't though, so don't expect miracles.
     
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    It was nice in the Exos.


    Should still be arm friendly.
     
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    Note for myself.
    -Pre-stretched multi=playable right out of the stringer;
    -Non pre-stretched multi=needs to wait few full days; not just one or two.
     
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    I chuckle a bit when people bring up this issue because it's really a non-issue to me. First of all, when it stiffens it still plays well and is still more arm-friendly than any poly or a stiff multi like Babolat Addiction. Second of all, by the time I notice it being stiffer I've already put close to 10 hours on it. A more typical multi, like NXT, will last me about 5-7 hours and costs almost 3 times as much at TW. So if you don't like it when it stiffens up, just cut it. At $6-7 a set, you've already gotten your money's worth.
     
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    Ramon could not have described PPA end life any better.
     
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    Suspect non-string breakers want the same performance after 30 hrs.
     
  49. ls206

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    Played with DNA today, transition from playing with micronite was pretty easy. I liked the string a lot, I found it to be crisper and lower powered than micronite but otherwise very similar. Does that fit in with your experience Mikeler?

    If DNA lasts for another 4-6hrs with decent tension maintenance I think I'll pick up a reel
     
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    I refuse to cater this thread to non string breakers.


    Yep that sounds about right. I gave Micronite the number 1 spot in my list because it lasts longer for me than DNA.
     

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