Mikeler's Multis

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  1. mikeler

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    Babolat NVY was the cross and it felt very soft in hand. I've never tried regular Tour Bite so I can't offer a comparison.
     
  2. SmilinBob

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    Between Dunlop DNA and Prince Premiere Attack, which would you say is more powerful?

    I'm going to put PPA in two frames at different tensions and wondering if the third (which will get DNA) should be strung to match the lower or higher of the two tensions for PPA.
     
  3. mikeler

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    PPA is a little bit more powerful.
     
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    then how does X-1 compare to Xcel power in power and control ?
     
  5. Lukhas

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    X1 is one of the most powerful multis out there. Wouldn't be surprised if it was more powerful than XCel power at the same tension in the same conditions, but I can't swear it.
     
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    Great, thanks. I will give that a try on the next job with it.
     
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    Had my first hit with PPA last night. I'm a fan. I'll get a few more under the belt in the coming weeks and get a review up.
     
  11. Ramon

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    I thought you'd like it. Easy on the wallet too!
     
  12. mikeler

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    Courts finally thawed out up there? :)
     
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    Just saw an article today that the lakes are finally up to swimming temperature...yep, that's a news worthy story here ;-)
     
  14. mikeler

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    In Minnesota that's called skating.


    Lived in Minneapolis for 20 years. And no, I can't skate. :)
     
  16. mrmike

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    It is good stuff. I like more controllable multi strings so PPA works better for me than NXT, X1, or NRG2. I still slightly prefer the dead, yet spinny attributes of RIP 17 for being able to take big cuts at the ball and still controlling it.
     
  17. mikeler

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    I like X1 a little better than PPA but it just does not last very long. If you prestretch it, then you'll get half the durability of PPA. Of course if you elect not to prestretch, it will turn into a rocket launcher after a few sets.
     
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    If price wasn't an issue, is the Dunlop DNA better than PPA? The reviews look similar.
     
  20. Lukhas

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    Here's the customer's thoughts on DNA:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/feedback-DDNA16.html
    And for PPA:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/feedback-PPA16.html

    Well, PPA is one of the recommendations for best bang for price and a favourite here. Say, a question for you: even if the strings were performing similarly, why would you get the one that's the most expensive? Sets are more than 5$ more expensive, and the reel of PPA is almost half the price the reel of DNA. Is one of these easier to get? Is it a sponsoring issue?
     
  21. Ramon

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    I'm going to try DNA in a few weeks, so I'll be able to give another opinion on that. I'll probably be able to compare it head to head with PPA once my Monogut ZX hybrid breaks. That might be my last multi play test, since I'll probably be hopping on the ZX bandwagon soon.

    One thing I can say is that I've compared PPA to some multis that cost $17, and PPA played better and lasted longer. For me, the ones that came closest were Discho Microfibre and Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre. DM was softer and more control oriented but had a tad less power and spin (but that's really splitting hairs). It didn't stiffen like PPA, but it seemed to get mushy at the end and lost some pop. KTM was a surprise, especially after Mikeler's bad review, but I thought it played as well as the other 2 and kept its playability the longest before it eventually lost some pop. It has a nice crisp feeling that I like without being harsh. I tried KTM a few other times, and my opinion stayed the same. All 3 of them were about as durable as multis get. My 2 biggest reasons for sticking with PPA were price and color (you can get it in natural or black and they play the same).

    I just think when you get to a certain level the difference between the best multis is small enough that it really doesn't matter much (they could all come from the same factory for all I know), so you might as well go with price at that point.
     
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    I like the playability of DNA best of any multi, the durability is not as good as DM or PPA. If it was, I'd rank it number 1 on the list. Shhh, don't tell that to tin foil hat Lambsscroll.
     
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    Bad durability? It looks like you wrote it lasted a long time on your exo tour... so does it still have above average durability for a multi? Thanks.
     
  24. bad_call

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    getting respectable durability using Tec Multifeel 16 in the crosses with Gosen OGSM 17 mains in the 18x20 blade. could be that the "formula" change for Multifeel has lengthened the life at the cost of increased stiffness. works for me... :)
     
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    Strung up Lux M2 Plus mains with Discho Microfibre crosses (both at 25kg - ~55lbs) and played with it this morning. It was decent. The DM moved a bit and the mains were stable. It felt ok to me. I liked it better than a full bed of DM.

    I haven't tried PPA before and have a pack here. I was originally going to try PPA in a full bed but since I didn't like X1 that much in a full bed and didn't like DM that much either, what are the chances I would like PPA by itself? I was thinking about stringing another with the Lux M2 and PPA crosses and just skip trying a full bed of it. Is it stiffer than DM and less like a synthetic gut? It seems that way in the pack but I haven't opened it yet. Just the fact that it's black makes me think it would be.
     
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    i'm a recent convert to multi (at times) from cheap syngut.

    not a string breaker, i string for myself and keep 'em fresh.

    want to try the PPA based on comments from above. pricepoint seems nice.

    16 or 17? I'd lean toward 17 unless convinced otherwise.

    Thx.
     
  27. Ramon

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    You sound like a poly kind of guy, which is fine as long as it doesn't hurt your arm. PPA really doesn't play much differently from other good multis, so I would vote you skip the full bed.
     
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    Added clotheslines to both stripper poles, works great.
     
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    and here I was all high and mighty about having ONE stripper pole.

    shazaam.
     
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    stay on target
     
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  32. mikeler

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    Watch that cross fire boys!
     
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    Average durability.
     
  34. jtap

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    Yep. I'm a poly guy. Love spin.

    I think I'll string up PPA with some Kirschbaum Pro Line II since they are both black.
     
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    Try to but the hits just keep on coming. Curious when so many players cut out their strings in two weeks or less, why worry about tension loss?
     
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    they were still ok

    for reel. i just cut out some six month old jobs. still ok, but the freshies feel so good. bad choice on may part. just lazy and content, but no poly.

    two weeks? i'd have to play more often, and maybe something other than mixed, ha.
     
  37. Lukhas

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    Well, bought 6 sets of PPA 17 for 45€, 7.50€ per set. Don't know when I'll put it on the frame, maybe when the Tecnifibre S-gut breaks, who knows? Or when I'm fed up with that fishnet of a string. Sucks we don't have reels at decent prices. 172/190€ for a reel, seriously? That's the price of Premier LT... The site where I bough the sets gives the reel of 16 for... 144€. Which means a bit less than 8.50€ for 17 sets. Seriously² (seriously squared)? 7.50€ a set would mean 127.50€ for a reel of 17 sets...

    And now the review of the infamous Prince Original S-Gut Duraflex:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/S16/S16Review.html

    Interestingly enough, Mark does mention Gosen OG Sheep Micro as an underrated s-gut.
     
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  38. mikeler

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    Gosen OG Sheep Micro is garbage as a full bed.
     
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    not exactly garbage (currently have that in 1 racquet) but it does pale in comparison to B5E/Nvy or other B5E main combos. ;)
     
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    No, it really sucks. :evil:
     
  41. bad_call

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    17g better than 16g. been so long using 16g can't remember...probably why i don't use it. ;)
     
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    The 17g lasted me a whole 14 games. I was so happy when it broke!
     
  43. Lukhas

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    Me and my Tecnifibre S-gut. Not that it's bad -it isn't- but it's boring. Has no special proprieties whatsoever, totally neutral. 16G in a 18*20, I'm going to suffer a whole lot until it breaks...
     
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    builds character or so some say...
     
  45. mikeler

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    Life is too short to play with bad strings. :)
     
  46. Lukhas

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    Feel like my racquet's going to build character for me. It feels like the ball doesn't grab the string, like it glides and slides on it. I just want to cut that stuff, while I can't really string at will either. One thing is sure, when PPA is strung, it's going tto stay for a damn long time on my frame. It went better with a bit of lead at 12/3/9 to make the head faster.
     
  47. bad_call

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    that's in the blx blade? haven't tried PPA but have OGSM/Multifeel in the blx blade now. comfy for recovering GE but makes me appreciate B5E mains even more.
     
  48. Lukhas

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    Almost. Blade 2013 18*20.
     
  49. mikeler

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    Why oh why would you put el garbago mains with more expensive multi crosses?
     
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    using it for the GE. as i recall full multi doesn't hold up as well plus i got a deal on the multifeel. so cost is very good. probably got maybe 10 hrs or so (but doesn't look to last much longer).
     

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