Mikeler's Multis

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  1. mikeler

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    I strung up Prince Recoil 16 in the mains with MCS in the crosses last night. This time, I made sure to tighten the Recoil knots very tight. I pulled out the starting clamp to tug on the knots and I did not clip them until I was done with the crosses.

    I ran out of MCS so now all I have at home is a set of Gamma Zo Power that came with my stringer that I'll never use. Getting the shakes due to lack of string at home...

    I did have the same problem with Recoil on the first pull of the mains. The clamp tore up the string some. Luckily, that is really high on the string bed so hopefully that is not where it breaks. Bounced a few balls off it and it feels half muted/half crisp and seems like it will have loads of spin.
     
  2. Boricua

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    A VS gut/B5E hybrid could be interesting as both strings hold tension well and should feel great. But, that belongs to another thread.:)
     
  3. mikeler

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    50% chance of rain this PM. If it holds off, I plan on trying out my Recoil setup.
     
  4. Boricua

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    1-Is Multifeel softer than RIP?

    2-Should Multifeel feel softer than any poly main/ gut cross setup?

    3- is Multifeel your preferred multi until today March 29, 2011 and counting?:)

    4-How are the donations for the indoor court coming along?:)
     
  5. mikeler

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    1. I think so
    2. Never tried poly/gut setup
    3. I need to test MF again and see if it will last longer and if so how it plays as it ages
    4. I think I'm up to $5
     
  6. JT_2eighty

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    2- any poly/gut setup will still be Less Soft than full multi, as poly mains will play less forgiving on the arm, even with gut cross.
     
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    Thanks for filling in the rest of the homework assignment. :)
     
  8. mikeler

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    So I hit with the Prince Recoil (PR) 16 in the mains with Mantis Comfort Synthetic (MCS) in the crosses last night. Hit for about 15 minutes with it and then played 7 games with one guy. Then hit for another 15 minutes with another guy alternating between my other setups. I then played a set with the 2nd guy using the PR/MCS combo. This was definitely my favorite out of the B5E/MCS and full Addiction setups.

    The PR has a rough texture that puts a lot of spin on the ball. I was serving just about normally last night and had a few nasty kickers. Have not been able to hit those for months. Both guys I played are hard hitters but this setup just seemed to take their power and allow me to hit a powerful controlled response in return. Volleys are just sick with this. They explode off the racket.

    I'll do a full review once I get a little more time on it.
     
  9. NLBwell

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    It feels less stiff and more muted than NXT (regular or Max) to me, but I'm not all that sensitive to the different feel of strings.
     
  10. mikeler

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    So this must feel very soft then because NXT Control is very comfy and I would expect regular NXT to be softer than NXTC.
     
  11. ethebull

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    Have you considered trying the 16g? A lot of the qualities you were less than impressed with should improve in the thicker gauge, seems to me.
     
  12. mikeler

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    I almost ordered it today but removed it from my order at the last moment.

    I did order the Polyfibre Gutex 16.
     
  13. Larrysümmers

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    I tried searching, but have you tried nxt. If so, how close is it to mantis comfort? Thanks
     
  14. pepka

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    Finally someone will hit with the Polyfibre multi :) I can't get it in Poland yet but it's nicely priced in the UK. Waiting for your review Mike, don't wait till summer please :p
     
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    Have not hit with regular NXT yet. Bounced some balls off a friends racket and it feels pretty soft.


    For your help in this thread, I will give it a priority.
     
  16. pepka

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    ^ Awesome. Thanks a lot :)
     
  17. mikeler

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    It's been very rainy here the last few days so it may be awhile until I break a string. :(
     
  18. pvaudio

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    Tsk tsk, be careful with a review like that. People may go run out and buy reels of NXT based off that one line alone! :D
     
  19. JackB1

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    You should start a thread called "Mikeler's Ye Old Bounce Test's" :)

    I think u will like NXT or NXT Tour, but would prefer the Tour. It's a lower powered, crisp feeling multi. Only knock seems to be durability.
     
  20. mikeler

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    It is flying off the shelves here. :)


    I probably won't get around to trying either but we'll see.
     
  21. Kcraig

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    Babolat Xcel Power 16g

    Well finally had a chance to get a full hit in with the Bab Xcel Power 16g strung in one of my diablos at 56lbs. Played 2 sets of singles and then 2 sets of dubs. It is certainly a "crisper" or stiffer string than the reg Xcel Prem. Temps were right around 52* last night which did not help the string feel any softer, but either way still a stiffer/crisper feel--but not harsh by any means.

    Power was ok, but I was actually expecting a little more pop from shots. I would say power level is slightly below X1 as well as spin potential. I enjoyed the hit, but was not "blown away" by any means--but I think alot has to do with the cooler/damp temps last night. Will def keep it in for a while and hopefully the temps will warm up and be able to give it a more fair trial.

    PS--my order of Pacific Tough Gut 16L and some random polys came in yesterday. Will be stringing up a gut main/poly setup. First will be either Gut/Big Hitter Blue OR Gut/Kirsh Proline II at 56/53. Nothing so far that I have tried has come close to the spin, control and pop the gut/poly does. These setups usually yield a solid 15hrs of play. I add Bab stringsavers around the 6-7hr mark in any "notching" areas.
     
  22. mikeler

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    I'll be curious to hear about the performance of Xcel Power in warmer conditions. It's so hard evaluating a string in cool or windy conditions. Thanks for the write up.
     
  23. Kcraig

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    Agreed---but for $19+ I was expecting "slightly" more. Dont get me wrong--still a very solid/friendly string. I guess if anything I was a little disappointed in the spin as I would expect it to be slightly "spinnier" for a crisper string.

    BTW---my GUT/POLY setup will cost the same---right around $18-20 depending on cross.
     
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  24. mikeler

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    Agreed. A $20 string should have a WoW factor.
     
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    I cut out the Babolat Addiction today. It was still playable but the stiffness was starting to concern me with keeping all my arm parts healthy. So I cut it out today after my match using it. At Pepka's request, I put in Polyfibre Gutex.

    I'm posting pictures of the front and back of the package below. To me, this is one of the nicer looking designs out there. When I see the German writing on the back, that just inspires confidence that some good German engineering is behind this string.

    Before I open the package, I look at the string and think it looks more like a 16L gauge. As I open the package, that familiar gluey smell hits me. So I unravel the string and it is very ropey. Sound like any other string class? That's right, I thought this was Mantis Comfort Synthetic, the color is even the same. But when I looked closer, I saw a rough texture.

    The rough texture was even more apparent when I went to install the crosses. Whenever I wanted to fan the string out, I had to use a screw driver because of the friction burn. Clipping the tails on my knots, I could tell this string has a lot of fibers in it. It always took 2 clips to cut the string completely.

    Could this be the holy grail for me? Maybe it has the softness of MCS with lots of spin. Ye Olde Ball Bounce test revealed that is is not quite as soft but close. The spin potential does seem higher than MCS. There is a very definite sweet spot with this string. It makes a completely different sound if you don't hit it in the sweetspot.

    I'll be playing tomorrow against a pusher. I will post my thoughts after the match but will wait on a full review until I play a big hitter with it. Definitely excited to try it out.

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  26. pepka

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    Cool:) Looks like it'll be first review of the Gutex... since i trust your judgement one is all i need.
     
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    Interesting if you read the package that the fibers are bound together by copolymer strands. That may lend itself to a more control oriented string which I like.
     
  28. Jeepers

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    Sounds great :D something like MCS with a bit more durability and spin would be amazing!
    Can't wait to hear what you think! hope its good things!
     
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    I have to admit, I'm pretty anxious to try this one out. Seeing how much harder it was to cut the knots, I'm thinking the durability will be better. At $10, this could be a great value multi.
     
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    ^ Hope that all this "technology" works. Another question. Anyone played with the WC Supercable Pro? The regular version was super comfy and worked great as a cross string.
     
  31. mikeler

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    Never heard of that string but it looks interesting.
     
  32. Bahama Scott

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    Is that Jason that you are talking about?
     
  33. mikeler

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    No, but he did spend some time in Boston and has a 5 letter first name. One of my former coworkers is good friends with Jason.
     
  34. Bahama Scott

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    :):)OK Jason works for me. Great guy and terrific tennis player too. Tried to help me with a new service motion.
     
  35. mikeler

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    Small world. Did you happen to attend Citrus high school? Off to the courts...
     
  36. Bahama Scott

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    No...but been around here for 25 years...from Tallahassee area. Where are you?
     
  37. dave t

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    mikeler - ever consider the MSV multis? soft control? I did a search and didn't find anything in this thread. They look interesting and the price is right
     
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    Do they sell them in the USA?
     
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    Orlando area.
     
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    Played 3 sets over 2 hours with the Polyfibre Gutex this morning. I'll write a full review after my next hit. The string shares many characteristics with Mantis Comfort Synthetic. I don't think it is quite as soft, but it does seem to have a little more spin probably because of the rough texture of the string. Unlike MCS, I did get quite a few balls that trampolined off my racket and took off. It makes the same thud sound when you hit the ball like MCS. The strings move like crazy and are much harder to put back in place due to the texture of the string. Not good for posters with OCD like KCraig. :)

    I ended up cutting this out over 3 sets. Getting back into poly hybrids at the moment.
     
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  41. BU Bearcat

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    mikel, what soft multi do u believe to be the most durable as well as low-powered?
     
  42. Boricua

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    What does Gutex mean, if anything?:)
     
  43. mikeler

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    Head RIP Control or Head Intellitour might be good options for you.
     
  44. sruckauf

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    mikeler,

    Is there one or more multis you've encountered that you thought tended to excel more in the spin department?

    Thanks.
     
  45. mikeler

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    These are the best multis for spin. All are fairly close for spin potential but if I had to rank them, this would be my best guess.

    1. Head Rip Control 16
    2. Dunlop Hexy Fiber 16
    3. Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 16
    4. Prince Premiere LT 16
    5. Tecnifibre MultiFeel 16
    6. Babolat Addiction 16
     
  46. sruckauf

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    Awesome, thanks much. I have been following this and the poly thread, but just lost track of the spin specific comments. Thanks again.
     
  47. sruckauf

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    Just curious. Did you ever try Genesis Xplosion ?
     
  48. mikeler

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    Yep. Check out post #1 in this thread for links to all the reviews.
     
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    WeissCannon Xplosiv is NOT Mantis Comfort Synthetic. More on that tomorrow.
     
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    *facepalm*

    thanks man
     

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