Mikeler's Multis

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  1. Up&comer

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    Thanks. So far I'm on day 5 and it's almost gone. The problem is how you feel for about a week afterwards
     
  2. mikeler

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    Yep, sounds like what I had. The digestive "issues" went away by day 4 or day 5 but I was still so weak for several days after that.
     
  3. mikeler

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    So I'm trying to decide between playtesting Boris Becker Pulse or Kirschbaum Multifibre next. Since Micronite is my new favorite, I'd like to have a back to back comparison with another fan favorite in the Kirsch.
     
  4. mixedmedia

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    I agree; go with the Kirschbaum.
     
  5. Muppet

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    Kirschbaum please!
     
  6. mikeler

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    KCraig said Kirschbaum over the e-mail so that has a 3-0 lead currently.
     
  7. pvaudio

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    Fly up to my school and play me in best of 3 instead! :twisted: :D
     
  8. mikeler

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    I don't do winters up north but I happily will travel up there in a few months when we are trapped in sweltering heat. :)
     
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    Heat wave here, 25 degrees this morning.
     
  10. mikeler

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    Unless I get 4 "Pulse" votes in the next half hour, I shall break out the Kirsch tonight.
     
  11. pvaudio

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    Kirsch it is!
     
  12. mixedmedia

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    I'm glad it's next!
     
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    OMG, I've got that stuff now. Tried to play yesterday and got chills and cramps so bad it was ridiculous. Started Sunday so I'm hoping by Friday it'll be gone..
     
  14. Up&comer

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    You are lucky if the only things you got were chills and cramps.
     
  15. mikeler

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    Here is my initial summary of Kirsch:

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    I just wanna say great thread you got here mikeler. All the information is top notch and I keep getting new strings to try out! :)
     
  17. mikeler

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    Thanks buddy. I'll be replacing the broken Kirsch with the standard bearer of multifilaments, Wilson NXT courtesy of KCraig.
     
  18. mikeler

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    Here is my review in the TW format of the Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre 16.

    I don't remember anything special about stringing this up. I did the old ball bounce test and it was easily the most crisp multifilament string I've ever found.

    Tension it is strung: 60 pounds on a lockout machine full bed
    Your regular string set up: Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17 Mains(52#)/Genesis Thunder Blast 16 Crosses(56#)
    Racket: Pro Kennex 7G (this is different than the others tested in the Babolat PST+)
    String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 20
    Power (or lack there of): Medium/High
    Feel: Below average
    Tension maintenance: It did not last long enough to worry about this.
    Price: $14.30/set or $99/half reel
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: This is an average multi with below average durability for this shankmeister. Lasted less than 2 sets for me, so my review is only based on 1 match.

    Serve/Return of Serve: Did not notice anything real special on serves. I definitely struggled with my return game.

    Strokes: About average spin on both wings for a multi. Depth control was average. I never really tried to flatten out too many balls. This string just did not give me the confidence to try it. I felt like I had to hit a lot of topspin to keep the ball in. Slices were pretty good with it.

    Net Game: It's good for volleys but not great.

    Touch shots: Nothing special here.

    Softness: The string feels firm but not stiff.

    Tension: Maybe if I had it lower, the shank would not have destroyed the string!

    Durability: After almost 2 sets, I hit a ball off the top of the frame and snap it went. $14.30 down the drain. They can keep this one back in Germany.

    Movement: The strings moved about average for a multi so I was fiddling with them between points.

    Conclusion: For somebody who hits with heavy spin and shanks quite a bit, I need strings that can handle that shear stress near the grommet. This string does not meet that need. I can see why this string has developed a following. It has the crispness of gut, some of that gut pop but not the softness. For those who complain about "mushy" multi strings, this one is probably worth a shot.

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  19. ArliHawk

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    Loving the Prince Premier Attack, but found some balls flying on me after about 8 doubles sets and 10 singles sets.

    Might be back to RIP Control for me, I find it consistent until it snaps. Then again, this sensation with Premier may be user error.
     
  20. mikeler

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    I did not notice lack of control but a slight increase in stiffness the last few sets with PPA. Seemed like the last 2 sets with Micronite I was losing a little bit of control.
     
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    I am going to experiment with putting string savers in RIP to tighten up the stringbed a little. Prestretching it keeps the tension loss pretty minimal..around 7 pounds total from right off the stringer, but after 8-10 hours it gets a little soft, and the string savers could help there.
     
  22. mikeler

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    RIP with string savers should last a very long time.
     
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    Like a bad pr of shoes. You wish they would wear out.
     
  24. Power Player

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    haha..yeah, but I am in that situation where my strings could pop soon and I need them tonight, AND I need to up the tension and control just a hair.
     
  25. mikeler

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    Makes sense in your case.
     
  26. Ramon

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    I have a racquet strung with RIP mains PPA crosses. I only hit with it for 10 minutes but I think I'm going to like it. Balls don't fly as much compared to full PPA and the feel is much softer than full RIP. I noticed the crosses move more than usual. I strung it at 54/56. Maybe I'll tighten it next time.
     
  27. Ronaldo

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    Head should include string a lings with every pack of RIP. And a shaver to clean up the fuzzy stringbed
     
  28. polytheist

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    My RIP feel crosses are starting to look like cotton string. But it's uniformly fuzzy in the sweetspot so it doesn't look bad.
     
  29. mikeler

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    I forgot to mention last night that I did play with the Boris Becker Pulse for 3 games after the Kirsch broke. Was definitely liking that setup better but it is hard to say much about it after just 3 games.
     
  30. mixedmedia

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    Thanks for the Kirsch review. I'll probably be leaving that one of my list. Did your post say $99/half set? :shock:
     
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    what do you think about babolat Envy or Addiction ?
     
  32. mikeler

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    Those are TW prices, but yes that is correct.


    Check post #1 of this thread for all my reviews. I have not tried NvY but I did test Addiction. Nice spin but too stiff for my liking.
     
  33. mikeler

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    Will be playing against 2 opponents back to back tonight with the Boris Becker Pulse (if it holds up that long).
     
  34. mixedmedia

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    Haha, that must be a typo on TW's part then. :)
     
  35. EL_Bombadero

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    what are your next tests? Hopefully the pro's pro strings for the poor students ;-)
     
  36. mikeler

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    Not following you. That is a half set so you save around $3 bucks per stick by going with the half reel.


    Boris Becker Pulse 16 is the current test. Klip Venom 16 is after that. I've got an empty racket that I was planning on putting NXT 16 (thanks KCraig) into soon. After that, I was going to try the 3 Pro's Pro strings Fortun8son sent me. Then most likely will stick with Micronite for a little while after that unless Weiss Cannon comes out with their new multi.
     
  37. polytheist

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    Mikeler,

    Can you please add Ashaway Zyex Monogut 16 to the mix?
     
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    This is a multifilament thread. I don't use monofilaments anymore. So I doubt I'll be trying that one.


    I have never used an 18g string, so I have no clue how it will play. I never rated it #1. :)
     
  40. mikeler

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    Boris Becker Pulse plays like a $12 synthetic gut. I'll try it one more time and then probably give it the scissors.
     
  41. mikeler

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    I strung up Wilson NXT last night. That has to be right up there with Maxim Touch for easiest string to work with. I'm not a particularly fast stringer but I was done in under 40 minutes which is about my record.
     
  42. Ronaldo

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    Try the bead method for crosses. Really speeds up the process.
     
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    ^^^ I forgot all about that. Thanks.
     
  44. mikeler

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    Played 2 more sets with Boris Becker Pulse. Had the exact same score against the exact same opponent with Micronite. Just not quite the feel I'm looking for. 2nd set had a tiebreak goto 16-14!
     
  45. Up&comer

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    Are you Nicholas or John?
     
  46. mikeler

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    Johnny baby!
     
  47. mikeler

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    One more thing about Pulse. It is wearing significantly at just a few intersections, much like Vanquish which made it 5 sets. Should play another 2 more sets tomorrow. If it breaks, I have my sets of Pros Pro gut power next.
     
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    I must be seeing things then. I thought in your review you wrote that it was nearly 100 dollars a half set. I guess you meant half reel or something like that. I just looked again... :)
     
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    Ah, now I see the confusion. Thanks, I updated the review.
     
  50. mikeler

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    C'mon Boris, you can do better than this...

    Here is my review in the TW format of the Boris Becker Pulse 16.

    Standard multi to string, seemed like it might have some decent pop just with the ball bounce test. Spin seems decent too.

    Tension it is strung: 60 pounds on a lockout machine full bed
    Your regular string set up: Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17 Mains(52#)/Genesis Thunder Blast 16 Crosses(56#)
    Racket: Pro Kennex 7G (this is different than the others tested in the Babolat PST+)
    String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 20
    Power (or lack there of): Medium
    Feel: Average
    Tension maintenance: RacquetTune (RT) showed a 10.7% tension loss before I cut it out.
    Price: $12.99/set, reels are $189.99 on another website.
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: This is a very average multi with a premium price tag.

    Serve/Return of Serve: This was one of the better areas of the string. First serves seemed to get close to the spots. Second serves had enough kick most of the time to keep my opponents from attacking them.

    Strokes: Was getting a decent amount of spin on both wings for a multi. Depth control was where this string was not good. When I missed long, sometimes the ball was 10 feet out. My backhand never really seemed to get along well with this string. Slices were pretty good though.

    Net Game: One of the better volleying multis out there.

    Touch shots: Below average

    Softness: Probably a little on the stiffer side.

    Tension: If I had to playtest again, I'd string it tighter.

    Durability: After almost 7 sets, there is some nice notching going on. I plan on cutting this out soon.

    Movement: The strings move quite a bit. Not good for those who care. I won't make my usual KCraig reference here. Oh wait, I just did. :)

    Conclusion: This string feels more like a solid core string to me. It does not inspire confidence in my game. I can't tell you how many times I had a put away ball on break point only to flub it. A few of those times were mishits but the other times the ball either "fell off" the strings into the net or I hit it long. For the price, I just can't recommend it.
     

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