Mikeler's Multis

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  1. saltair

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    Last winter I was stringing MCS at 48 on a youtek prestige mid.

    Plenty of control with that setup for me.
     
  2. Frankc

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    Likewise, strung MCS at 52 on a Microgel Radical Midplus and liked it - feels tight yet good pocketing - great control...
     
  3. Ronaldo

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    Totally Twister to warm-up my forearm.
     
  4. mikeler

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    I try and do 3 sets of 8 for the Tyler and reverse Tyler twists throughout the day. Usually a set on the way to work, a set at lunch and one on the drive home.

    Broke Venom last night. Review forthcoming. Played NXT for 1 set. One word: OVERRATED. Felt like Gamma synthetic gut to me.
     
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    Would a flex bar help keep my wrist healthy or is it more for TE?

    If yes, which one would you suggest?
     
  6. rdis10093

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    mikeler, so out of all of the multis that you have tested, which one is best for control?
     
  7. pvaudio

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    That's a good thing :D
     
  8. Ramon

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    I'm surprised. If NXT didn't fray so quickly and cost so much I'd probably still be using it. Maybe I should try Gamma Synthetic Gut. LOL
     
  9. mikeler

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    Not for the wrist, so don't waste your money unless you have elbow issues.


    That is a tough one. One could argue that control is only good with a reasonable amount of pace and/or spin at the level I play. For instance, Quasi Gut had great control but the spin potential was so low I hated it.


    While Gamma synthetic gut is both of our favorites in the solid core category, NXT costs 4 times as much!


    If it didn't break so quickly, was softer, had better control, was not so expensive and gave a me foot rub after each match, I'd consider NXT full time. Seriously, if you are only getting 5 sets out of NXT but love it, then try Gamma synthetic gut. It will only last that long too but at 1/4 the cost, it may behoove you to try 1 set out.
     
  10. mikeler

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    Klip Venom Review

    OK, here is my review in the TW format of the Klip Venom 16.

    The string does look like a snake. It had some minor coil issues but other than that it was easy to work with. The old ball bounce test seems to indicate a lack of spin.

    Tension it is strung: 60 pounds on a lockout machine full bed
    Your regular string set up: Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17 Mains(52#)/Genesis Thunder Blast 16 Crosses(56#)
    Racket: Pro Kennex 7G (this is different than the others tested in the Babolat PST+)String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 20
    Power (or lack there of): Low/Medium powered multi
    Feel: Average
    Tension maintenance: The last reading I got off RacquetTune was 8.1% tension loss.Price: $13.99/set, did not see reels on TW
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: This is a decent multifilament string but at the price point I expected a little more.

    Serve/Return of Serve: Serves were OK, I don't remember many aces. Sometimes 2nd serves were getting pounced on too but other times my opponents were having trouble with it. Returns were just so/so.

    Strokes: Adequate spin on both wings but not great. My slice seemed to float at times and I hit too many balls wide. While I can't blame wide balls on the string, I think a lack of confidence in it was causing me to aim for the lines more.

    Volleys: Volleys are excellent with this string.

    Touch shots: About average.

    Softness: This is probably the 5th softest multi I've tested to date. Great for those with arm problems.

    Tension: If I had to try it again, I lower the tension slightly to get a little more pop.

    Durability: This lasted for 7 sets of singles and 3 sets of doubles.

    Movement: String movement was average for a multi meaning it moved a fair amount.

    Conclusion: At the premium price, there are certainly others below $10 that play better than this string. The durability was fairly good for me though.
     
  11. saltair

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    Don't recall you saying this very often, dropping the tension that is.
     
  12. mikeler

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    It was just a little under powered at that tension.
     
  13. bigmalik76

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    mikeler I have been trying to get my hands on a set of Signum Pro Micronite but don't see anyone that sells it in the U.S. is there a particular reason for this you know of? And where did you get your set from you tried?
     
  14. mikeler

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    I can't mention TW competitors so you'll have to make do with using search engines.
     
  15. mikeler

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    I just strung up Discho Microfibre last night and it seems very similar to Micronite with perhaps a smoother surface and more ghosting. Seemed like it was slightly easier to string than Micronite. The old ball bounce test felt very nice. Looking forward to playing with this one.
     
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  16. bigmalik76

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    Good to know I will be looking forward to hear about the results.
     
  17. mikeler

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    Got 2 more sets on Wilson NXT 16. Not a fan at all. I can't point out 1 thing this string does exceptionally well. At the price point, I expected to be wowed.
     
  18. rdis10093

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    do a review on forten 15L nylon, stuff is so good. It is going to change the way tennis is played.
     
  19. Ronaldo

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    From the net to prevent tension loss.
     
  20. Up&comer

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    Odd that you say that, because the first time I tried it I was wowed. I would have put it next to xcel for playability and feel. I tried it about 5 times after that over the span of about 2 years and I have now come to the same conclusion as you.
     
  21. Ronaldo

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    TW used to use NXT as strings in demos. Always felt dead as it grew old.
     
  22. DEH

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    Thanks for the info. I did get some and strung it in her spare Dunlop. It was muted and soft like she likes. It was strung at 54mains 51crosses. It had a DT 34 after stringing. After 2 hours of hitting it is now DT 33. This is the first string that she said that she liked a lot. It had a lot of spin and power which she likes. Thanks for this thread and helping me find a new string.
     
  23. mikeler

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    How many strings did you try before the first NXT run?


    It felt stiff for a multi from the first hit.
     
  24. mikeler

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    I should point out that I tried Wilson Sensation for a few minutes in a demo and was not impressed either. Wilson Shock Shield also felt the wrath of my scissors. Then again, I thought NXT Control was great. Why does regular NXT in my PK 7Gs feels stiffer than NXT Control in my old PSTs? I have to think NXT Control had a PU coating.
     
  25. Up&comer

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    I guess I had tried addiction, xcel, nrg2, x-1, and I think maxim touch. I don't know if I just had a good day with it or what, but I haven't liked it any other time I've tried it.
     
  26. mikeler

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    At least you had some other good strings to compare it to. This was from one of their "cheaper" reels that KCraig sent me. Perhaps they had a cheaper formula for that, who knows.
     
  27. Ramon

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    I tried NXT recently. It came strung from TW with my Ki 5x. I liked it. The next one I tried was my 2nd Ki 5x strung with Premier LT. I thought they played very similarly but NXT had more of a gut-like feel and was softer. To me it seemed about as soft as PPA, and NXT had better feel and slightly better control. That's just my opinion. I won't be buying it anyway because it's clearly not worth the price to play just 5 sets.
     
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  28. mikeler

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    I'm really wondering if they "cheapened" up the mini reels. PPA is definitely softer and better in every aspect.
     
  29. Ramon

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    I doubt they cheapened the mini reel. TW probably used the mini reel when they strung mine for $11. We all have different opinions, otherwise there wouldn't be so many different strings.

    For me NXT breaks long before it gets old! Maybe most demo users aren't string breakers. I think they just use synguts now for demos. Makes more economical sense.
     
  30. mikeler

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    You + Up&Comer tend to agree with me on string attributes, that is why I'm a little surprised. I'm using the 16g, is that what you used?
     
  31. Ramon

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    Yes, it was 16g. Mine was strung at 58 and the Premier LT I tried next to it was also at 58. Side by side, NXT was the winner because of feel and comfort with everything else being equal. I was actually amazed at the similarity in the way they played. After 5 sets, Premier LT got stiffer and less comfortable and NXT was too frayed to keep going.
     
  32. mikeler

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    Duh, I just realized you were comparing it with Prince Premiere. :shock: I was thinking you were comparing it with PPA. On a stiffness scale, they do play the same but I thought Premiere had more spin.
     
  33. mikeler

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    If anyone is an avid NXT user, I'd be curious what the comparisons would be with it versus Gamma synthetic gut 16. It really reminds me so much of that string.
     
  34. Overheadsmash

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    I've played with both of these in the past and thought the Gamma was a little crisper. Apart from that, they still moved all over the place for me so I don't use either anymore.
     
  35. mikeler

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    Agreed the Gamma is crisper but they play very similar.
     
  36. Ronaldo

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    Seems like Hollow Core and Hollow Core Pro are the demo strings. Still use Hollow Core 16 but Hollow Core Pro is just too stiff.
     
  37. mikeler

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    I'll give NXT one more try tomorrow. After that, I hope I can find some time to cut it out and string up something better.
     
  38. mrmike

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    Strung up some Micronite 17 today in my Head YTPMP @ 58 lbs. Strung pretty easily, noticed the ghosting caused by the clamps, but no biggie. Previously had Biphase 17 in that frame for about a month and a half. First hit felt pretty firm, especially after the tension loss experienced with Biphase. Towards the end of 1.5 hrs of hitting, the Micronite was working pretty well. I will say that I don't believe touch shots are quite as good, but everything else is working great. This is a true Multi, correct? Doesn't have a center core like Multifeel ?
     
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    :shock: An impostor!
     
  40. JackB1

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    looking for a soft setup but low powered for a Pure Drive? Any ideas other than NXT Control?
     
  41. pattenww

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    I think MCS plays real well in 70+ tweeners
     
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    can someone recommend a tension for MCS in something like a Pure Drive?
     
  43. Power Player

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    Mikeler educate this man on the micronite. How do you think it would play in the pure drive at 60#s?

    MCS is awesome but most people do not like it in a full bed or it breaks rather fast.
     
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    Is Micronite lower powered? I tried it once and thought it was a run of the mill multi. But I don't remember much about it. Its also hard to find.
     
  45. Power Player

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    Just read through the last few pages of this thread? It's been reviewed.
     
  46. mikeler

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    Micronite is not Biphase which has more power and spin. I tend to play best with fresh Biphase or Micronite though, so that is where they are similar. In terms of string construction, this Discho Microfibre should play fairly close to Micronite but you never know until you get out on the court and test it.


    I also was not "wowed" on my first Micronite outing even though I won easily. It either needed to drop some more in tension or I just needed more time to get used to the string. The touch shots seemed to get better with time as I got more dialed in with it. Micronite is supposedly a true multi but it seems like there was a small, incredibly strong solid core in the center.


    MCS in a stiff frame? No way, it won't last a hitting session for some people.
     
  47. mikeler

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    Played extremely well with NXT this morning so I guess I'll keep it in a little longer. Seems like Genesis Thunder Blast plays fairly close to NXT. Maybe that is why they can't keep that black coating on the string, because it is just an NXT paint job!
     
  48. Ramon

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    Unfortunately, a "little" longer is about all you'll get with NXT!

    For some reason, black dyes don't seem to stick too well to multifilaments. PPA Black seems to come off that way too. Now I know what you meant when you were talking about being able to see where you hit the ball on the stringbed and leaving black marks on the balls.
     
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    Okaay. Dude, I'm dying to hear the review of the Gut Power, but I was interested in the NXT as well.
     
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    Multi main Hybrid question

    Mikeler is you could please, I was looking to use X-1 or Prince Premiere Attack in the mains with my cross of Co-Focus. Any suggestions on which may be the better choice?
     

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