Mikeler's Multis

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  1. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    It is kind of interesting to see where you hit the ball. It just confirmed for me that I have no ability to hit the sweet spot.


    See my next post...


    I'd choose Prince Premiere Attack since it is cheaper and has better tension maintenance.
     
  2. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I started out last night with NXT and went down 4-0, 30-0 pretty quickly. Some balls I was hitting the back fence. This is not a good string for thwarting hard shots so I put it back in the bag. To go in order of stringing, I really wanted to try my first Pro's Pro string, but I opted for Discho Microfibre instead. Sorry fortun8son but I was probably on the verge of a double bagel if I did not go with Micronite, I mean Microfibre.

    I've never played with 2 strings that I thought were exactly the same before, but after playing 2.5 sets with Microfibre, I could not tell any difference between it and Micronite. That could be due to windy conditions or heavy balls but it just felt like money. I almost dug my way out of 0-5 hole in the first and ended up winning in the 3rd set tiebreaker against a guy who normally beats me. Count me in as a fan.
     
  3. Ramon

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    It sounds like TW needs to start carrying some more off brand strings. I'd love to try out Xcel and NXT Tour, but $18-20 is too much for a string if you can get a really good one for $12.50 or less. I'll be interested in seeing how these $8-9 Pro's Pro strings do in your tests.
     
  4. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Discho just got marked down from $15 to $12.49 and I believe they have 99 cent shipping so I think that is a good value. I'll try the Pro's Pro soon but after that, it will be hard to get me off this or Micronite. I like them better than even my poly hybrid.
     
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    Whadyu talkin bout Willis?
     
  6. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I like Discho Microfibre and Signum Pro Micronite better than any setup I've used to date. I've only played 2.5 sets with Microfibre but I can't tell much if any difference between it and Micronite. So if you are contemplating buying Micronite, you may want to look at Microfibre if you can get it for less money.
     
  7. Ronaldo

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    Micronite is a bargain in a reel
     
  8. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I would agree on Signum Pro Micronite reels. At $139.90 for the reel + $8 shipping, assuming you get 17 string jobs it comes out to $8.70 per string job. I'm hearing rumors that Discho Microfibre will be even cheaper when they begin offering reels.
     
  9. pvaudio

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    I can only imagine where those rumors are stemming from :)
     
  10. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    A little birdie told me. ;)
     
  11. Ramon

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    I put in an order for Microfibre today. It might be a while before I get to it, but for the price I figured it's worth a try.
     
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    Do you plan on reviewing Microfibre? I would love to see if it has the same tension maintenance and longevity that Micronite has. If so I will definitely be stocking it once Mamba starts offering reels. I can't find seem to get Micronite in Canada and I would love to buy more strings from Ray.
     
  13. roc17355

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    Mikeler, I didnt get a chance to look through your entire post for this but have you play tested either of the MSV multis?
     
  14. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    For $1 shipping, it's hard to complain about the time. I'll be looking forward to your review.


    I will be reviewing it if I can find any distinction between it and Micronite. Otherwise, I'll list it as tied for #1 with Micronite.


    I was not impressed with my 1 MSV string. See my rankings below, it is currently 15A:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=352048
     
  15. Ramon

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    Actually, shipping was free and I only had to buy one set! It doesn't matter to me whether I get it in 2 days or 2 weeks, so that works for me. I don't know how long they will do free shipping. Get it while it lasts!
     
  16. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    GG charges too much for shipping IMHO.
     
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    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I think I'll start out with the NXT tonight and if I struggle again, then it will get the scissors.
     
  18. Luiz.Melao

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    Hey mikeler,

    I've been reading your thread daily looking for a good Multi to buy. The problem is, I live in Brazil and one reel over here costs approximately 350 (dollars) and I can't afford that. So, I have a friend visiting US and he said that he can bring me one reel. Now, I have to decide which one I'm gonna buy, and I really need you help!

    Which one of these strings would you suggest me to use as a full bed, or in a Hybrid (I prefer full bed over a hybrid)? ps: I am a baseliner player, I use lots of topspin, I dont go to the net often and rarely use drop shots. I've broken some syn gut but never a poly, so I'm assuming that I'm not a string breaker.

    Strings:

    RIP Control (I know it does not come in a reel, so I would buy some sets)
    PPA
    Head ETS (have u tried this one?)
    MCS

    If there is some others that are cheap and good, please let me know.

    Thanks in advance :)


    PS: I am still learning the English, so please don't laugh if I made any ridiculous mistake while writing. hehe!
     
  19. ls206

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    Another avid reader here. Thanks for taking the time Mikeler (and for organising the front page links for easy review finding!).

    I've been hit with tennis elbow so I'm off the polys and onto multis so this thread is a great help.
    Just bought a reel of Toalson Asterisk, it's said to be the same as Gamma's Asterisk - have you ever had experience with the string?

    I got it mainly for the low price because I'll be getting through strings quite quickly (well.. quicker than I'd like to be restringing!!).
     
  20. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Glad you are finding the thread useful. I would recommend PPA. MCS is a love it or hate it string so I would not recommend buying an entire reel of it. I'm going to be unloading my reel of Genesis Thunder Blast that has about 9.5 sets left on it for anyone interested.



    I have never tried Asterik but they do have it at my local store so I won't rule it out. The links on the first page are all the multis I've tried to date.
     
  21. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Got rained out last night which is probably good for my arm. Hopefully I can get out there tomorrow. Next time I can restring, NXT is coming out.
     
  22. sphinx780

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    Well, I decided to try me some Microfibre as well off these glowing recommendations. I'll be interested in seeing how it compares to what I've been using.

    I love Gripper during the winter season but man does that power cause some issues now that it's warming up and the ball flies. Great for serves but the ground game gets a bit wonky.
     
  23. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    That sounds exactly like my experience with Pro Supex Maxim Touch 17. I started using it in the dead of winter and things were fine. Then as the weather warmed up, I could absolutely bomb serves but if my opponent got the serve back life was not easy keeping the ground strokes inside the lines.

    The Microfibre is interesting in terms of power level. I don't feel like I have to swing very hard to hit winners but the control is still there. It's very unique and I hope you enjoy it. Either way, report back as I'll be interested in hearing your experience.
     
  24. sphinx780

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    You bet your *** I'll be doing an 'official' sphinx review on it once I have it. Figure it'll be a good time to really screw with some Gripper tensions as well and see what I discover.

    I've been reading too much of your thread and am developing a case of the string testing bug again.
     
  25. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I'm actually starting to long for just playing with 1 set of strings for awhile again...
     
  26. ssgator80

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    Make up your mind already
     
  27. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    You are getting full Microfibre on Wednesday pal. :twisted:
     
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    That's where I got to once I tried Gripper, a few month respite from variables seemed to bring it all back around.

     
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    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Luckily I've been reasonably healthy and have played pretty well so far this year so the constant swapping of strings has not negatively impacted me a whole lot.
     
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    As long as I'm healthy, the game is just fine as well. What came back around was the string testing bug. I blame you ;-)
     
  31. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    It is a weird addiction. It can go in remission.
     
  32. Ramon

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    Is one of the symptoms buying a stringing machine if you don't have one (like I did last week)?
     
  33. sphinx780

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    I'd look at having a stringing machine more as a predisposed condition, almost always found in conjunction with the disease yet independent from the disease itself.

    I've had my machine for almost 19 years now...the disease just hit me in the past 3-4 years. I'm trying all of the medication the beer and whiskey threads have advised but to no avail.
     
  34. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I started out my warm up today with Pros Pro Gut Power. After about my 5th ball that hit the back fence (no joke), I picked up the NXT. Went with that a few games and then found myself down again in the first set. Went to MicroFibre but my opponent was zoning. Stayed with it until I prevailed in the 3rd.
     
  35. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Think I may cut out NXT today and do a review.
     
  36. maggmaster

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    i tried signum pro micronite as a cross, what an awesome string. It lasts forever and plays great until it breaks.
     
  37. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    What poly did you pair it up with? How long did it last as a cross? After hitting with Discho Microfibre for over 2 sets again today, I'm reasonably confident that it is the same string as Micronite. I'll be buying a reel of the Discho once I complete my string testing.
     
  38. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Speaking of strings that are the same with different names, I cut out NXT and put in Pro's Pro Hi-Tec Multifibre. I'm pretty confident that this string is Mantis Comfort Synthetic. I'll know for sure once I play with it.

    I've only got 2 strings left to test after this. The Discho Microfibre 17g and the Pro's Pro Gutex Ultra 17g. Then I think this thread will be taking a much deserved break!
     
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    I tried it with both Luxilon savage and Weiscannon Scorpion. Scorpion is better. It lasted about 10 hours, the poly was dead long before the cross broke.
     
  40. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    NXT = Overrated

    Here is my review in the TW format of the Wilson NXT 16.

    Probably the easiest string to install. It went in like a charm.

    Tension it is strung: 60 pounds on a lockout machine full bed
    Your regular string set up: Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge 17 Mains(52#)/Genesis Thunder Blast 16 Crosses(56#)
    Racket: Pro Kennex 7G (this is different than the others tested in the Babolat PST+)
    String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 20
    Power (or lack there of): Medium/High
    Feel: Below Average
    Tension maintenance: RacquetTune (RT) showed a 15.3% drop in tension before I cut the string out.
    Price: $16.95/set
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: This is a below average multi with a premium price tag.

    Serve/Return of Serve: Nothing special on serves. It did not seem like I could get enough spin on 2nd serves to fend off attackers. Returns were lackluster.

    Strokes: This string does not have great spin potential. If I was in an offensive position, the string did what I needed it to do. Since I play mostly hard hitters, I'm often scrambling for their shots. I had no control on balls that were hit hard to me. So many went into the back fence.

    Net Game: Average

    Touch shots: Below average

    Softness: One of the stiffest multis around. I'd put it right there with Thunder Blast, Addiction and TNT2. I actually broke my scissors cutting the strings out!

    Tension: If I had to playtest again, I'd string it at 95 pounds in the hope that it would break on the stringer.

    Durability: After almost 7 sets, there was some mini fraying going on. It looked like the string still had some life left.

    Movement: Not too bad.

    Conclusion: This string feels more like a solid core string to me. It does not inspire confidence in my game. It hurts my elbow too. I'm just not a fan of Wilson strings in general I suppose.
     
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  41. mikeler

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    I had some time to string this afternoon, so I decided to give the Pro's Pro Pulse a bounce test. It felt softer than I remembered yesterday until I started hitting the ball high and then I could feel it in my elbow. So I cut it out (sorry Fortun8son) to put in Discho Microfibre 17g.

    One thing I just noticed is that Micronite is offered in 1.32 mm and 1.27 mm while Microfibre is offered in 1.30 mm and 1.25 mm. So assuming the truth is being told, that may be the only difference between the strings.

    I gave the Microfibre 17g the ball bounce test and it feels even better than the 16g. It may be as soft as MCS. I'll have to test it on court though.
     
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    I thought I'd share this since I brought it up earlier with positive response. It's quoted from GG blog comments.

    It is called Big Fantum and the shipment arrived in the USA earlier this week. It is currently clearing customs. We should have it by next week. WeissCANNON is VERY excited by the performance of both of these new offerings.​

    The "both" is referring to Dual Real and Big Fantum.

    Playtest contender?
     
  43. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    It better get here soon! I'm about ready to commit to a reel of the Discho.
     
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  45. Uvijek Argen

    Uvijek Argen Semi-Pro

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    Before you commit find out if they sell reels from the one you like.
     
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    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I plan on testing the Discho 17g version this week so I can compare it to the 16g version.
     
  47. Uvijek Argen

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    I see the reel from that one you like (microfibre) in a european website, but not in Ray website.
     
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    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Ray has indicated that he can order a reel once I know what I want.
     
  49. Uvijek Argen

    Uvijek Argen Semi-Pro

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    Wow, good stuff.
     
  50. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    You still only using natural gut? The 17g Microfibre is probably as soft as MCS and some guts.
     

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