Mikeler's Polys

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  1. DustinW

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    Mikeler. I'm going to keep saying this until you try it, but you really need to try Head Sonic Pro Edge. I would put it in the same category as ALU Power and Typhoon, but better in every way.

    We tend to like the same strings, so you gotta trust me on this one. :)
     
  2. mikeler

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    It is at the local shop so I may try it out.
     
  3. V1_Classic

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    That's quite an endorsement. I love Typhoon, so I guess I'll have to give it a go.
     
  4. mikeler

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    I'm guessing it could be the same as Volkl Cyclone but I'll still try it.
     
  5. DustinW

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    It is like ALU Power but more spin and much longer lasting, and like Typhoon but more control. For me, Cyclone is really good for a few hours but then it gets springy on me. The best thing about Sonic Pro Edge is the edges of the string don't wear down like other shaped strings, and it retains its playing characteristics over a much longer period of time than any other shaped string that I've tried. For me... it starts out extra crisp and a little powerful... then it quickly settles in (control increases, comfort increases, ball pocketing increases) and plays pretty much the same past the 10 hour mark.
     
  6. mikeler

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    Guess what I strung up earlier today?

    Fuji, 28.2% was my final reading on RT. I cut out the Power Chord. It was still performing well as a doubles only string but I felt the itch to try something new. Review still to come...
     
  7. Galdust

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    Volkl Cyclone is my favourite string atm. Looking forward to read your review of Head Sonic Pro Edge as I too thought they were pretty similar.
     
  8. mikeler

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    My initial impression is that I like the Cyclone better but hard to say after just 1 day.
     
  9. SpinToWin

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    I personally much prefer Sonic Pro Edge, but different strokes for different folks as I always say ;)
     
  10. Fuji

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    Cool! Thanks for the reading. How many hours do you think you roughly put on it?

    -Fuji
     
  11. Galdust

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    Have you tried Tourna BHB7? The TW playtesters thinks the Sonic Pro Edge plays very similar to it. Would you agree? I personally prefer Cyclone to BHB7, so if Sonic Pro Edge and BHB7 play pretty similar, I think I can pass on this one ;)
     
  12. nickarnold2000

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    I wonder why Sonic Pro Edge reels are so much cheaper in Europe?
     
  13. mikeler

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    I can't even fathom a guess since I strung it up in July! After probably 2 singles matches, I used it only for doubles and hitting.


    You can check out all the strings I've tried in post #1 of this thread. I thought BHB7 had more spin than Sonic Pro Edge but I was playing in heavy humid conditions yesterday so I don't want to say BHB7 has more spin just yet.
     
  14. mikeler

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    Golden Set Power Chord 16

    This one is a smooth poly and was easy to install.

    Tension it is strung: 60# on a lockout
    Your regular string set up: Genesis Typhoon 16L @ 60#
    String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 16 (Prince Tour 100T ESP)
    Power (or lack there of): Medium powered
    Feel: Better than most polys
    Tension maintenance: It dropped 28.2% over about 2 months.
    Price: $6.61/set
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: I was impressed with Golden Set Snake Bite and I'm also impressed with Power Chord.

    Serve/Return of Serve: About average on serves and I seemed to return a little better.

    Strokes: Nothing really stands out, just an overall solid performer. As with most smooth polys, I longed for a little more spin.

    Volleys: About average.

    Touch shots: My drop shots were pretty good, better than most polys.

    Softness: This felt pretty soft on the arm.

    Tension: 60# played great.

    Durability: I cut this out after about 2 months. If I recall correctly, I used it for a few sets of singles and then just hitting balls or doubles after that. This might be the most durable poly I've tried to date. Even when cutting the strings out, it was not going down without a fight!

    Movement: Some string movement but nothing too bad.

    Color: I can't remember if this black was a "bleeder". I don't think it was.

    Conclusion: This is a better than average poly, the price is reasonable and the durability is outstanding. If you are looking at the sub $10 poly class, this smooth poly is worth a look.
     
  15. SpinToWin

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    I think they play quite differently actually. SPE isn't nearly as mushy and it offers more control and a much better playability duration IME.
     
  16. DustinW

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    Agree 100%
     
  17. mikeler

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    I got a whole 3 games in tonight before the heavens opened up. This time I was on a very dry court in hot conditions and the spin seemed pretty good with Sonic Pro Edge. More to come...
     
  18. Ronaldo

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    May be time to play indoors, eh?
     
  19. mikeler

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    Doesn't exist in these parts.
     
  20. huba01

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    :)Great news on the durability of the power chord, might be a way to go for me. How would you compare it to ripspin 1,35 in terms of durability , spin and comfort ? which color did you play ?
    thanks in advance
     
  21. huba01

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    Also, just read that the power chord is only available in 1,3
     
  22. mikeler

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    Power Chord was black. I think it is more comfortable than RipSpin and the spin production is comparable. Durability is hard to say. One would think the thicker RipSpin would be better for durability but since I did not break either string, I can't say for sure.
     
  23. mikeler

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    Head Sonic Pro Edge is pretty good but my first full outing with it my touch shots were off.
     
  24. Fuji

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    For me, performance was very similar (especially when I was using S frames), but powerchord is cheaper with darn well the same durability (at least for most of my clients). If anything, I found PC a bit more comfortable and a touch more spin. Probably just the difference in gauge really making the difference. For the price between reels though, powerchord wins every time for my client base.

    -Fuji
     
  25. huba01

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    Thanks, was just wishful thinking, i guess.
    I have just bought another two esp 100t , so I don´t have to have them strung after one session.
    Again, the yonex ptp 1,3 look was thicker than ripspin 1,35. Any thoughs on a hybrid of the slightly textured yptp with ripspin cross would work ?
     
  26. mikeler

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    YPTP barely lasted for me. Just received the Ytex square string for the TW playtest.
     
  27. naturallight

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    hey mikeler, I noticed several posts ago that you tried out Gosen Sidewinder. How soft is it, say compared to something like Black Widow?

    thanks
     
  28. mikeler

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    I have not hit with Sidewinder yet.
     
  29. Bhairava

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    Damn, after some months my forehand is so improved that my beloved string discho iontec 1.35mm retain tension for 1-2 hours of big hitting and then it goes dead :O I have to put them back straight after each hit. And I string it very tightly (29kg) (however I tried even lower tensions, it only goes worse).
    I'm not kidding, it gives me 8 hours of good tennis if a push not so strong, but when hard hitting it goes dead very, very fast. it doesn't snap back and it lose a lot of tension (even if stringing at high tension AND very slowly).
    That's the problem with my dear prince 100t ESP.
    It seems I cannot find a 1.35mm string (or even 1.40mm) that could retain tension and snap back for more than a couple of hours of hard hitting.
    I really cannot imagine how could you play with genesis typhoon 1.25mm on that frame, mikeler! :O
    Prince XC, wilson ripspin, they cost too much for me, as I play 2 hours at day, every day.
    No "cheap" manifacturer seems to make 1.40mm or 1.35 "long lasting" poly strings.
    Any advice on the next string to try?;)
    I was thinking about polystar strike 1.35mm. Something that would cost 50-60€ on 200mt reel so I could restring them every 6 hours.
     
  30. mikeler

    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    Maybe look at some of the thicker Pro's Pro options?
     
  31. SpinToWin

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    The thickest gauge of Pro's Pro Concept and Intense Heat you can find are two strings you should try.
     
  32. Galdust

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    Do you think you will review Babolat PHT some time? I'm starting to really like that string. It is low powered, has good spin and excellent control. It seems like most people think its downside is the touch/feel and stiffness of the string. However, I don't get any arm issues when using it, and it actually stretches more than e.g. Cyclone when stringing it. As for touch shots, I don't think its noticeable different to most of the other polys I've tested. I'm using the 17 gauge.

    Also, it now costs a lot less than before when ordering reels from TW Europe. Same price as for Cyclone!
     
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  33. Bhairava

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    Thanks for advices. It's a pity pro's pro doesn't make anymore Concept 1.38mm. So I should try Intense heat 1.30, Concept 1.33 and signum pro poly plasma 1.33 that seems to have strong tension maintenance(but costs 70€ so I little pricey for restringing every 2-3 days)
     
  34. mikeler

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    At $16 there is little chance I'll be buying that string anytime soon.
     
  35. Galdust

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    Understandable. I'm wondering why it costs that much less from the European webpage..
     
  36. mikeler

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    Head Sonic Pro Edge 16g

    Stringing the crosses is always a little challenging with shaped strings. It took longer to string up than most polys.

    Tension it is strung: 60# on a lockout machine
    Your regular string set up: Genesis Typhoon 17g @ 60# on a lockout machine
    String pattern of your racquet: 16 x 16 (Prince Tour 100T ESP)
    Power (or lack there of): Medium powered
    Feel: Not great but it is full poly
    Tension maintenance: I forgot to measure before I cut it out.
    Price: $13.00/set
    Overall comments and feedback: See below

    General: I think there are better shaped strings out there than this one.

    Serve/Return of Serve: I liked this string for serves. I had a few more aces than usual. My returns were poor especially off the forehand side.

    Strokes: Good spin off both wings and nice control.

    Volleys: Decent control on volleys but nothing exceptional.

    Touch shots: Bad. Gotta have my droppers!

    Softness: Medium for a poly.

    Tension: 60# seemed like the right tension.

    Durability: They were about 1/2 notched when I cut them out after about 7 sets of singles.

    Movement: Little string movement and the strings are hard to move back because they are shaped.

    Color: I like the dark gray color. It bled a little on the balls.

    Conclusion: It seems like twisted strings work better than shaped ones in my frame. The touch was just awful with this string and at $13, I want it to be good in most areas.
     
  37. mikeler

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    Up next is the Ytex Square X playtest from TW.
     
  38. JT_2eighty

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    Nice review. I had similar results with Genesis Typhoon. Great feel poly with solid control and spin.
     
  39. mikeler

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    I may like the Ytex Square-X slightly better. Still not sure and I have to see how durable it is. It's a close race at this point.
     
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    Ytex Square X 16L Playtest

    Tension(s) used for playtest
    60 pounds on a lockout

    Regular string set up
    Genesis Typhoon 16L full bed

    Racquet brand and model used for test
    Prince Tour 100T ESP (16x16)

    Power of test string
    I thought the power level was good. It seemed like I was getting a few more aces than normal on serve. When I wanted to crank up my ground strokes, I felt there was ample power.

    Feel (Stiff? Mushy? Muted? Crisp?)
    I guess crisp but this has a very unique feel which I really liked. It seemed to have more ball pocketing than I can remember from any other poly. Touch shots were pretty nice with this string.

    Spin
    About average for a poly. The string gives you confidence to go for your shots, so I was hitting the ball flatter than with some other strings.

    Comfort
    I thought this was one of the more comfortable polys I've tried.

    Durability
    This is the Achilles Heel of the string for me. I only got about 3.5 sets of singles and 3 sets of doubles before it snapped.

    Playability Duration (share thoughts on if/how the playability changed over time)
    It stayed about the same through the playtest.

    Control (predictable trajectory? Easy to control depth? performance on different strokes and swing speeds?)
    It had a very predicable trajectory. Depth control was a breeze unless I was out of position or got tentative. This is a very nice offering that I think would excel for all swing speeds.

    Compare to the string you use most often
    I liked this string perhaps a little better than my current favorite but the durability is not good enough for me.

    Tension recommendations (after hitting it, would you recommend a different tension? Why?)
    Tension was just right. RacquetTune had the initial reading as 61 pounds. I only got 1 other reading after my first 2 sets of singles and it had dropped to 50 pounds (18.1% tension loss).

    List any additional thoughts (optional)
    If they come out with a thicker gauge of this string, I'll definitely test it out. Thanks to TW and Ytex for letting me participate in the playtest.
     
  41. nytennis-74

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    Mikeler, thanks for the Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 recommendation (in another post) - I am loving the string. Can you please compare/contrast the Cyclone Tour with the Typhoon? (also including durability playability duration?) Wondering if I should try that as well. I play in a 18x16 Blade 98s. Thanks again
     
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    Typhoon is like a stiffer Cyclone Tour. I like the extra firmness in the ESP frames just to help feel more connected with the ball.
     
  43. nytennis-74

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    I will stick with the Cyclone Tour then (stiffer=elbow problems for me).
    Thanks
     
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    mikeler G.O.A.T.

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    I wouldn't touch Typhoon unless you have a 100% healthy elbow.
     
  45. Bhairava

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    I' ve found discho ionspin rough 1.35mm. I'give it a try!
     
  46. mikeler

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    They don't sell that in the USA.
     
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    You mentioned that you thought the power level of the Square X was good. Would you say it lies somewhere in the middle of Cyclone and Cyclone Tour?
     
  48. mikeler

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    Similar to Cyclone Tour I would say.
     
  49. Bhairava

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    It's a pity! I'm italian so I'll buy it from Germany, unfortunately the discho site reports only "few reels available". It should be the rough version of discho iontec, so more bite on the ball!
    In the while, I'm surprised you didn't try the iontec 1.35mm! I've broken it only after 10 hours of heavy play,and the string was already dead,so in the usual playing window (6 hours than cut) I never break it.
    And instead of stringing at 29kg and let it settle,I'm now stringing it at 26kg but pushing the weight of the machine in order to remove the extra elasticity of the string.with that method I can string at lower tension(it is something like a prestrech) and the dear iontec seems to lose little tension.
     
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    I checked with the local Discho rep and he was not carrying the thicker Iontec.
     

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